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Can Conservatives Win Back the Arts? (American values are coming back into the culture)
National Review ^ | 12/17/2010 | Andrew Klavan

Posted on 12/17/2010 7:49:03 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 12/17/2010 7:49:07 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Just a few of the communist goals that come into play here.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policymaking positions.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”


2 posted on 12/17/2010 7:52:54 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SeekAndFind
“American values are coming back into the culture”

I believe, American WOMEN are key to any cultural changes whether positive or negative.

3 posted on 12/17/2010 7:54:19 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: SMARTY

How about the MEN ?


4 posted on 12/17/2010 7:58:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SMARTY

Both men and women. Much of what women do is what men want and vice versa. In my great grandmother’s day, few women were looking for a bad boy.


5 posted on 12/17/2010 8:02:34 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d be happy to see non-politicized arts and film.


6 posted on 12/17/2010 8:04:32 AM PST by Weird Tolkienish Figure
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To: SeekAndFind

I was thinking that, as consumers, women make up a larger group and can successfully boycott anything (MSM, trends, ideas, politicians, etc.) which is incompatible with wholesome family life, schools, children.

Men could do so as well, but I think women would be more effective at it.

Spending decisions in families are usually commanded (at least guided) by women so they would be better ‘cultural dissidents’. In a capitalist system, dollars talk and consumers are powerful.

Also, women in an open society like ours, are free to choose the kind and quality of their domestic arrangements....for example, when to marry, to whom, etc. These are choices almost wholly controlled by women.

It IS possible to resurrect the preference for child rearing WITHIN wedlock, and that would be a giant step forward


7 posted on 12/17/2010 8:08:16 AM PST by SMARTY (Conforming to non-conformity is conforming just the same.)
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To: SeekAndFind

In November 2010, I outed myself...... I declared to the world I am an artist. My days as a working engineer are past. I offered my works in silver for sale.

I have endured years of lefties in classes and forums and galleries. I spent two weeks in a School taking a metals course taught by a tenured San Francisco lesbian come back to her mountain roots.

I endured the presentation of a woman who made he reputation pumping air between two cherry red steel plates welded together. She delivered the presentation at the forge dressed chic ly in all black Carharts and a single string of pearls. She travels the world demonstrating this skill.

I endured the whining of a Fine Arts masters degree resident artist who although a very accomplished woodworker was complaining bitterly because after 4 years of undergraduate fine arts work and two years of Masters study and three years as a resident artist, she was being cast off into the real world. The real world that placed no value at all on her artistic vision of a dialogue between lines and dots drawn with an HB pencil on egg tempra painted door and window frames. She could not find a job and was being kicked out of the school.

On a tour of the glass studios, I heard the department chair ask “ what is the difference between a large Domino’s Pepperoni pizza and a journeyman glass artist? The pizza will feed a family of four”

I am discovering what they all learned..... artists starve


8 posted on 12/17/2010 8:08:51 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: SMARTY

I agree with you. It seems just a few years ago that Dan Quayle was the target of the venom of the left-wing media for suggesting that celebrating single motherhood via “Murphy Brown” was not a good thing for the culture. Now, the very weird Angelina Jolie is so much the ubericon that she can sell the photos of her new babies for $4 and $5 million.

And trailing along behind Angelina and her unorthodox family is Brad Pitt - the man who dumped America’s sweetheart to become a sperm donor and diaper bag carrier.


9 posted on 12/17/2010 8:09:52 AM PST by chickadee
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To: bert

Unless you are pulling my leg, I say you can always go back to being an engineer.

You can still be an artist ( AS A HOBBY ).

Unless like MichaelAngelo, you find a rich patron to subsidize what you do.

:)


10 posted on 12/17/2010 8:12:55 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Keep taxpayer money and government patronage and promotion out of the arts and let the “artists” go where they will.

That is, as long as they do not infringe or intrude on the freedom, the property and the rights of others.


11 posted on 12/17/2010 8:13:25 AM PST by Iron Munro (Those who claim you owe them a living are cannibals seeking to survive by consuming you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nothing like a good old flick for American values. Here’s “A Tree Grows In Brooklyn,” part 1 (the rest are there too).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkBPH2F-UTc


12 posted on 12/17/2010 8:13:42 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Criminals are looting the country in broad daylight.)
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To: bert

Good for you. Glad you came out on the right side.


13 posted on 12/17/2010 8:15:26 AM PST by BenKenobi
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To: SMARTY

You make a wonderful point here - that the right should use its purchasing power to influence the culture. I have been doing this for some time and try to encourage others to do so as well. Don’t go to films that star know GOP hater, George Clooney. Anytime you can see the product for free, go ahead, but don’t help to make people like this richer.

I see ads on TV which offend me - such as the “lame parents” Toyota ad - I won’t buy a Toyota because of it. I won’t buy the products of firms that advertise themselves as “being green”. I don’t disagree with sensible environmental conservatism, but I do disagree with corporations supporting the leftist agenda with their advertising dollars.


14 posted on 12/17/2010 8:15:59 AM PST by chickadee
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To: SeekAndFind

I think the issue is that the anti-war and pro-commie movies are made with the intention of being anti-war or pro-commie. Most movies that reflect American values set out to tell a good story and have the values show up, but I don’t think they set out to make a “pro-America” movie. Has some parallels with the free market.

The line from The Incredibles is cool, but without seeing the movie, I don’t know if it was a “pro-West” movie, or just a superhero movie that has ideals I agree with. However, the quote from the Blind Side is probably a slight at Republicans as one of the overwhelming themes is the family who takes in the black kid is morally better than the family’s “Republican” friends. Also, how can you live in Memphis and not meet a Democrat or a black guy before you turn 40?

I also like the show Justified, but one of the bad guys uses Christianity as a front for bombing and making money. I don’t think we should worry about lib programming, just watch what you like. But just because a movie or song has a line in it that fits with your belief system doesn’t mean the movie reflects your beliefs.


15 posted on 12/17/2010 8:16:53 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hollywood is ***t and so is ALL of TV. They all supported the coup and there is tons of Saudi money sloshing around for Islamification just like what happened in the UK.


16 posted on 12/17/2010 8:18:27 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: SeekAndFind

Your response is emblamatic of the ignorance and philistinism that characterize the conservative movement, and part of the reason that the left has total control of arts and culture.


17 posted on 12/17/2010 8:21:43 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: bert
To get brutally Clintonian, I feel your pain.

I, too, had to endure a slew of artistically challenged "teachers" when I attended college, but my field was (and is) the literary arts.

I remember the first day of an advanced poetry writing class. My female professor told everyone to close their eyes, get down on the carpet, and "feel" the earth on their bellies (to get in touch with their inner muse, I guess).

While everyone had their eyes closed, I took that time to quietly grab my notebook and skulk out the door.

I didn't pass the class... lol...

18 posted on 12/17/2010 8:22:35 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: bert

Not clear from what you wrote if you are an artisan or an artist.


19 posted on 12/17/2010 8:23:17 AM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: SeekAndFind

——you can always go back to being an engineer.-—

At 68, it’ll be tough


20 posted on 12/17/2010 8:24:00 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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