George Soros and MSDNC are getting tired of telling you stupid Freepers that controlling access, reimbursements, treatments and all other financial aspects does not constitute a takeover ...
Posted on 12/17/2010 9:27:32 AM PST by Zakeet
For the second straight year, the health care overhaul inspired the biggest political lie, according to the independent fact-checking Web site Politifact.
Last year, it was Sarah Palin's claim that there were "death panels" in the bill. The winner this year, is the term "government takeover" used by multiple Republicans, including incoming Speaker John Boehner.
Politifact:
In the spring of 2009, a Republican strategist settled on a brilliant and powerful attack line for President Barack Obama's ambitious plan to overhaul America's health insurance system. Frank Luntz, a consultant famous for his phraseology, urged GOP leaders to call it a "government takeover." ...The line stuck.
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George Soros and MSDNC are getting tired of telling you stupid Freepers that controlling access, reimbursements, treatments and all other financial aspects does not constitute a takeover ...
We will have single-payer within 5 years. Will these nimrods act surprised?
That there is the biggest lie of 2010.
As far as I know, Ms. Palin never claimed there were ‘death panels’ called for IN the bill. She, and others, DID opine that ‘death panels’ would be a RESULT of the bill.
She hasn’t been proven wrong yet.
Hospitals, insurance companies, medicaid, medicare, and the FDA already deny coverage which leads to the deaths of 1,000s of people every year. Just wait till there is a single payer.
That is the biggest lie.
But Obama is brilliant, he should have been able to awe with his orator skills.
How about another lie. Remember the 2500 we were going to save in insurance per year.
This from MSNBC. That says it all.
MSNBC. I’d rather get my news from Pravda, Tokyo Rose, or Josef Goebbels.
Honestly, I see MSNBC as the video equivalent of Air America. I’m amazed they are still on the air. They CAN’T be profitable.
The headline will include the word "unexpected".
m2c2 Pravda? Jesus Christ...just how old are you Joker? Want to try making a poor point with some referencefrom the 21st century in it? Even the late 20th would suffice. Jeeez grandpa. #3.3 - Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:10 PM EST
Yes. Because 1917-1989 is so, uh, not-20th century?
The up-and-coming young left doesn't even know from whence they come!
My dad is in a nursing home (private) and when I was visiting there yesterday I was listening to one of the CNAs asking an 80 yr old gentleman questions while he was sitting in his wheelchair in the hallway. The questions were the garden variety - Do you know what day it is, month, year? do you have any pain? etc.... she asked some questions about whether he ever felt sad or depressed and then she asked “do you ever feel like you or your family would be better off if you weren’t around?” The man was very lucid and was incensed by the question. He said ‘what the hell are you asking me a question like that for?’ The CNA said (I kid you not) “I’m sorry, the government makes me ask that”...I couldn’t believe my ears.
WHAT THE HECK?!?!?
They won’t allow you to hold them accountable either - that’s lib SOP.
Yes, there are inherent “death panels”. They don’t like the truth, but a collectivist healthcare system inherently has to have them.
And yes, it IS a de facto government takeover.
When you can’t choose your coverage, or even whether you have coverage, you’re under government control.
This from MSNBC the biggest lie in -——journalism?????
politifact has the annoying habit of being useless, completely misunderstanding the idea of “fact”, and twisting political rhetoric to it’s purposes.
Of course Obamacare was a government takeover. The bill on it’s face: Uses the power of government to force people to buy insurance; forces companies to sell insurance against their own best interests; dictates what must be in insurance; lists what items must be covered without cost as “preventative”; sets price ranges for insurance; provides billions of taxpayer dollars to selected residents of the country to buy insurance; dictates the employment contracts between companies and workers to include insurance; and allows government to pick which companies and organizations have to meet the bill’s provisions or not.
Under Obamacare, insurance is no longer a contract freely entered into between you and a company — it is a government-controlled, government-dictated arrangement, which happens to be implemented through private industries.
By far, that is the biggest lie of the past two years. Obama was supposedly Lincoln(because he was from Ill. and could craft a good speech, I suppose) and FDR, the One, Alpha and Omega, all knowing etc. and we find out he has trouble reading and pronouncing superfluous and confuses corps with corpse.
I'm wondering if this factcheck.org is really independent, if all the mainstream media are quoting them, how can that be?
A huge lie was when Obama made the statement that coverage for the 40 million, pre-existing condition coverage, insurance coverage for illegal aliens etc. would not cost us "not one thin dime" and we would actually save money. That is one humongous lie.
Something about this group doesn't smell right, and the way it was simultaneously picked up by the media in unison and it happens to be the Repubs who told the biggest lie, when that is really a very subjective thing. Seems like a massive disinformation campaign. Whether it was crafted with that in mind, I have no way of knowing. but that is what it seems like.
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