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Ending Military's Gay Ban Lets Obama Fulfill Another Clinton Promise(Cloture Vote 63 - 33)
npr ^ | December 18, 2010 12:03 pm | Ron Elving

Posted on 12/18/2010 9:32:56 AM PST by Red Steel

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To: eater-of-toast

I agree with what you are saying. It will be difficult. I don’t think any nation has ever reversed such a policy.

The last vote is from the officers and NCOs in the ranks. I suspect once the morale plummett, those are the ones we need to hear from in order to turn the tide.


41 posted on 12/18/2010 1:31:39 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: Twinkie

Yes INDEED!!!

In 1993-1994 we had a brief spasm of bad liberal agenda items - gun bans, tax hikes, attempt to tax carbon, spending sprees, leftists on the courts, ... and the gays-in-the-military attempt.

In 1993, DADT was 1/2 step and this was the other half.
In 2010, ObamaCare was 1/2 step to single payer and if we make the mistake of allowing another leftist President and Congress in, there will be the completion of THAT project.

This is how it works. For 8 years, Clinton failed to enforce immigration law, undoing the 1986 ‘amnesty’ purpose. As a result, we have millions of illegal immigrants. That led, inevitably, to a push for another ‘amnesty’ to the DREAM Act and other attempts to legalize what has been permitted through a failure to enforce the law for 20 years.

We saw the last gasps of this era’s Liberal Moment in these votes today. Liberalism has advanced in fits and starts lately, for the simple reason that the people don’t really support it, so they can only do it when given more power for reasons other than faith in the liberal agenda. Obama wasn’t elected to enact DREAM Act or to socialize medicine.


42 posted on 12/18/2010 2:17:11 PM PST by WOSG (Carpe Diem)
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To: Twinkie
Hillary’s seems to be more serious and more for keeps.

LOL, that's putting it mildly.


43 posted on 12/18/2010 3:33:52 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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To: Red Steel

This was beatable, and it was the fault of the RINOS much more than any other political group, IMHO. The RINOS could of sided with conservatives on this issue, but they didn’t. Any and all problems with DADT will be the fault of all leftists from both major U.S. political parties.


44 posted on 12/18/2010 5:13:48 PM PST by johnthebaptistmoore (If leftist legislation that's already in place really can't be ended by non-leftists, then what?)
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To: Red Steel

Give it 2-3 years - they will have PINK TANKS!!! Believe it! Wait till the Army has Gay Pride day!


45 posted on 12/18/2010 6:15:48 PM PST by 2harddrive
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