To be fair to Andy, I spent my youth and adulthood (until age 40) in and around “hollywood.” I bet I know and knew as many gays as most around here.
The term “sodomite” seldom came up and was just laughed off as an anachronism in my experience. It certainly didn’t seems to require “putting someone’s lights out.”
I just wonder from what perspective Andy is coming from. Your response is illuminating.
For the record: I don’t hate human beings that are gay. But I absolutely oppose the gay agenda for all the reasons Jim has expounded. I came to that conclusion myself long before I was a FReeper but Jim says it much better than I could.
It is not hate. It is legitimate political concerns.
To call it hate is to be misinformed at best...
The perspective I'm coming from is that I believe we must differentiate between the personal and the political.
I oppose the radical homosexual agenda the same as most (if not all) of you. I don't want it promoted as an acceptable "alternative" lifestyle, not in our schools and certainly not with our tax dollars. I don't want to be forced to witness public indecency because gays are given "accredited victim status" and are thus provided license to do things heterosexuals would be arrested for doing.
But I also recognize that people are entitled to privacy as regards their own consensual, personal behavior. Also, those gay people I do know (there are a number) are not anything like those you see on television. They are discrete and unobtrusive and do not demand my approval of their lifestyle. That, I can live with. They are also funny and warm and nice people - not sex-crazed addicts. That, I can also live with.
I had no problem with Jim's original post. None. I did not care for the tone of some of the commentary that came afterward, as it contained language and exchanges that, in my opinion, crossed the line between the political and personal, and reflected poorly on us as a group. That's all. I really did not intend to get into a fight with anyone, even recognizing that this can be a very emotional issue for some.