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In Sunday-evening surprise, Senate unanimously passes food safety bill (Why even have a GOP?)
The Hill ^ | December 19 2010 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 12/19/2010 6:00:46 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network

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To: Lazamataz

[ Lie #9 - Food smuggling is a huge problem in America
One of the main sections of S.510 addresses “food smuggling.” Yep — people smuggling food across the country. If you’ve never heard of this problem that’s because it’s not actually a problem.

Not yet anyway.

But there’s a reason why they put this into the bill: Because they’re probably planning on criminalizing fresh produce and then arresting people for transporting broccoli with the “intent to distribute.”

Yep, farmers bringing fresh produce to sell at the weekend farmer’s market could soon be arrested and imprisoned as if they were drug smugglers. Hence the need for the “food smuggling” provisions of S.510.

Soon, we will all have to meet in secret locations just to trade carrots for cash. ]

Yup they put the “food smuggling” part in the bill because they know full well they will need to criminalize the movement of food after the rest of the bill comes into effect.


141 posted on 12/19/2010 10:06:30 PM PST by GraceG
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To: upstanding

[ While I normally roll my eyes when people label any corporations evil, I make an exception and wholeheartedly proclaim Monsanto to be damn evil. This is a slap in the face of small farms and all Americans. What else is this @#$^ing congress going to do to us before they’re gone? And I’m not holding much hope for the next batch either. ]

Monsanto isn’t evil because they are a big corporation, they are evil because of their incestuous relationship with the federal government, it is a whole, you scratch my back, I’ll scratch yours. They are now a federally “blessed” monopoly.


142 posted on 12/19/2010 10:08:26 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

What have you got against CW2? How about if we call it American Revolutionary War-II? Are you on board then?

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.”


143 posted on 12/19/2010 10:15:40 PM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Global2010

I’ve been thinking about baking bread again but we do like cheap white bread (yeah, I know). However, lately our only grocery store has been getting theirs in frozen. FROZEN! And it tastes like it’s been frozen for quite some time. Seriously, can they be that stupid? It’s the mainstay of most households here. I don’t know what’s going on with them, but twice during the past month they’ve not gone by their advertized specials and people are starting to ask questions.

BTW, it’s HEB. Hear that HEB? Your customers don’t appreciate your new business practices. And your vegetables have gone way, way down in quality.


144 posted on 12/19/2010 10:15:55 PM PST by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I propose a new party: the Liberty and Freedom Party.

It would be dedicated to Constitutional principles and free markets.

It would view unnecessary taxes and wealth distribution as an attack on liberty.

It would view regulations with the utmost suspicion as they are the vehicle for unnecessary interference in the private affairs of and increasing control of citizens.

It would view American soverienty as the a paramount concern, especially in matters of illegal immigration.

Lastly, it would view spending as something to be limited as taxes inevitably rise as a result, infringing on the liberty and choices of citizens.

I think a party guided by these principles is what America needs.

145 posted on 12/19/2010 10:20:25 PM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: TheThinker

[I propose a new party: the Liberty and Freedom Party.

It would be dedicated to Constitutional principles and free markets.

It would view unnecessary taxes and wealth distribution as an attack on liberty.

It would view regulations with the utmost suspicion as they are the vehicle for unnecessary interference in the private affairs of and increasing control of citizens.

It would view American soverienty as the a paramount concern, especially in matters of illegal immigration.

Lastly, it would view spending as something to be limited as taxes inevitably rise as a result, infringing on the liberty and choices of citizens.

I think a party guided by these principles is what America needs. ]

Add to that the constraint that laws passed in senate house of executive orders have to be no more than 3 pages or 1000 words per bill. Also the bill need to be about one subject at a time and unrelated Ryders on said bill will invalidate the entire bill.

Add that and I think you have a winner.


146 posted on 12/19/2010 10:26:18 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
All you stupid whiners who are barking mad about the spineless GOP....are idiots. Do you understand that the Dems have a majority in the House and Senate until January?

You think you're mad now, just wait for the serious compromising that will go on in the next two years, in order for the House to slip stuff by the Dem Senate and vindictive DemPrez. Tough times ahead, I think.

147 posted on 12/19/2010 10:30:07 PM PST by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

This abomination must be reversed, any way possible. Get if off our necks, you guys. Tom Coburn has gone crazy.


148 posted on 12/19/2010 10:33:14 PM PST by firebrand (infrequent traveler)
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To: The Comedian

Where can I find out ramifications of this food “safety” act passing?


149 posted on 12/19/2010 10:41:24 PM PST by Joya
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Boycott the stupid Iowa Caucuses.


150 posted on 12/19/2010 10:47:17 PM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook.com/StandWithArizona)
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To: tubebender
Yes, tubebender... Mrs. Wasp is busily circulating the link to this thread to her entire email list as I type this. Thank you for posting this horrible news.

I guess Archer Daniels Midland called in all their lobbying chits to intimidate Republicans to go ahead and do this in spite of the people's loud voices all last summer and fall in D.C. and the monstrous landslide we produced east of NV on Nov. 2nd!!!

What a horrible shame they can so cavalierly dismiss the wishes of the ones who brought most of 'em to the damned dance!!!

This will KILL thousands of family farmers and dairymen all over the country while we are starting to buy milk from New Zealand and even China!!!

151 posted on 12/19/2010 10:48:27 PM PST by SierraWasp (What's worse... shutting down government, or the private sector with uncertainty???)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; Travis McGee; Godzilla; MamaDearest; appalachian_dweller; ...
This monstrosity is going to be one of the most dangerous bills passed in history. It has the most potential to show the tyranny that's been secretly building inside our government since the 1920s and I don't think the sheep are gonna be ready to respond, properly. I also think it's too soon for any viable response of any kind. That means we're all in for some very rough times. This is gonna be far worse than any climate legislation. Far worse than repeal of DADT. In short: It's going to be a nightmare.
152 posted on 12/19/2010 10:49:42 PM PST by ExSoldier (Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Talking about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Beyond disgusting.

What is the matter with the GOP?!


153 posted on 12/19/2010 10:53:21 PM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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To: musicman

;)


154 posted on 12/19/2010 10:53:35 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Lazamataz; ExSoldier
I WILL PLANT. I WILL HARVEST. I WILL RESIST WITH FORCE IF THERE IS ANY ATTEMPT TO STOP ME.

Every American I know feels EXACTLY the same way Laz! This is just revulsive and if anything, strengthens all arguments against those elected and now serving in government who are/were supposed to represent us, the people.

Every single day we're being hit with another outrageous bill and/or edict by the fascists/marxist/communists who are running America down and out. Nazi Germany and the failed USSR did these things - and failed. The lame duck session is apparently the democrat / RINO compulsory punishment period for voters in retaliation for the November 2010 election results and what will happen to those RINOs and remaining democrats in upcoming elections.

155 posted on 12/19/2010 11:05:33 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
What's the point of the GOP??

I mean, really. Why are they even there?

How many FReepers are going to comment during the public comment period of this bill, I wonder.

If it's the usual, there won't be too many.... lots of whining, but no real action.


And yes, comments do work. I've gotten very fundamental changes made via comments.

156 posted on 12/19/2010 11:10:51 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: acapesket; Lazmataz; ExSoldier; blackie; LucyT; Rushmore Rocks; Cindy
Monsanto wrote this bill!! This is a political payoff.

Non-Monsanto Seeds Info

Includes a list of seed companies that, while not owned by either, buy part or all of the seed stock from Monsanto or Seminis.

Obama puts Monsanto lobbyist in charge of food safety

Genetically modified foods are not safe. The only reason they’re in our food supply is because government bureaucrats with ties to industry suppressed or manipulated scientific research and deprived consumers of the information they need to make informed choices about whether or not to eat genetically modified foods.

Now, the Obama Administration is putting two notorious biotech bullies in charge of food safety! Former Monsanto lobbyist Michael Taylor has been appointed as a senior adviser to the Food and Drug Administration Commissioner on food safety. And, rBGH-using dairy farmer and Pennsylvania Agriculture Secretary Dennis Wolff is rumored to be President Obama’s choice for Under-Secretary of Agriculture for Food Safety. Wolfe spearheaded anti-consumer legislation in Pennsylvania that would have taken away the rights of consumers to know whether their milk and dairy products were contaminated with Monsanto’s (now Eli Lilly’s) genetically engineered Bovine Growth Hormone (rBGH).

157 posted on 12/19/2010 11:12:39 PM PST by MamaDearest
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To: CharlesWayneCT; Uncle Ike; Talisker; STARWISE; azishot
Some more explanation...

Sunday Surprise: Senate Passes Food Safety Bill :

[...]

The food safety bill--S. 510, the Food Safety Modernization Act--which some had given up for dead, was revived late Sunday attached to a shell bill and passed unanimously just before the Senate adjourned for the day.

The bill, with the Tester/Hagan small farm exemption intact, now goes back to the House. The action will likely put the food safety law on President Obama's desk before Christmas.

[...]

The food safety bill has had a tortured life. The House passed its version (H.R 2749) in July of 2009 by a vote of 283 to 142. The Senate did not move on its version (S. 510) until last month after a compromise (the Tester/Hagan Amendment) was reached between small farmers, Big Ag and consumer groups. The final vote was 73 to 25.

However, Section 107 of S. 510 contained a fee provision that the House Parliamentarian considered a tax in violation of the "Origination Clause" of the Constitution, which states that the House must initiate revenue measures.

To overcome the Senate's procedural error, the House then appended S. 510 to the "Omnibus Spending Bill," essentially the 2011 budget. That bill was narrowly approved by a 212 to 206 vote, but when the Senate refused to take up the spending bill, the food safety legislation was left hanging -- until Sunday evening.

To get the food safety bill back to the House without the constitutional flaw, the Senate used H.R. 2475 as a vehicle, amending it with the language of S. 510. Ironically, H.R. 2475 was originally a House version of the "cash for clunkers" bill, a shell with just enough life in it for the Senate's purpose. Reid predicted the House will take up the measure Monday night or Tuesday.

[...]

158 posted on 12/19/2010 11:17:20 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Yes- I knew it would come back but I did not expect it quite this soon, This is really a serous problem. I am ready to order the last of my garden seeds for next spring. I just about always plant open pollinated so I can save seed.

It is going to take more than us to beat this thing. We are fighting a well planned ag/chemical coalition that has very deep pockets. Very few seed companies are not owned by Monsanto when you get to digging a bit. Con-Agra is the other problem.


159 posted on 12/19/2010 11:20:19 PM PST by handmade
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To: GraceG

As you know, history has a bad habit of repeating itself - particularly on those who fail to learn from it.

Here’s one part of history which this sort of thing may well be leading up to a very painful repeat of in our time:

http://faminegenocide.com/mace_ch3.html

Now do you suppose that the Obama Regime knows a thing or two about the highly effective tactics and strategy of “Uncle Joe” STALIN?

Why; I rather think that they probably do, actually.


160 posted on 12/19/2010 11:21:21 PM PST by George Varnum (Liberty, like our Forefather's Flintlock Musket, must be kept clean, oiled, and READY!)
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