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Breaking : Feds want reporting for high-powered rifle sales (emergency request)

Posted on 12/20/2010 11:19:52 AM PST by Scythian

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To: The Comedian

LOL, I didn’t see the gun at first.


121 posted on 12/21/2010 7:07:11 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: athelass

Mine were stolen.


122 posted on 12/21/2010 8:21:00 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Wurlitzer

“Do you believe we have enough believers in the founder’s brilliance to take the country back by what ever means remain?”

It’s always been my contention that we’re fighting this war on too wide of a front. We’re not concentrating on fighting smaller battles that are easier to win. Winning small battles eventually adds up and you win the war.

Sending 650 new patriots into state legislatures this past election was a huge victory. We now control 30 state legislatures. The amount of damage state legislators can inflict on the criminal fascist syndicate occupying Washington is limitless. This is where our strength lies today, if conservatives take advantage of that and support these new law makers.

I posted this on another thread. It’s one example of a tool we can use to exploit the enemy’s lines and weaken it.

I still need to study this more, so it’s coming off the top of head.

In about 1995, a federal court in Utah ruled that counties and tribes are sovereign entities and the federal government can’t force them to do the bidding of the federal government.

Before that we had the Sheriff Mack Supreme Court ruling that said the federal government cannot draft a sheriff to implement Clinton’s antigun legislation.

Recently the federal court ruled in the Virginia case that obumacare is unconstitutional.

What two of these three cases have in common is that local legislatures and a state legislature first passed legislation saying, in essence, that they’re sovereign entities and as such, the federal government doesn’t have the authority to order them to carry out federal mandates.

The courts have agreed in all three cases that other governments, from local to state, are sovereign, and as such they have the power to disobey and thus nullify the federal government decrees.

These cases, I believe, give states ammo to pass legislation defying various federal decrees and the courts will back them.

As I said, I need to understand this better to get a more clear picture for myself and others.

There’s other tools, too, like the Data Quality Act (DQA). Under DQA anyone - you, me, your neighbor - can challenge any rule written by a federal bureaucracy for its scientific integrity. In other words, if you believe some bureaucrat rule didn’t use the best science, you can demand to see the science behind it.

If the science is flawed, you can demand the rule be rescinded. DQA, quite simply, is a giant killer. Entire bureaucratic fiefdoms can be wiped out.


123 posted on 12/21/2010 9:19:47 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: muddler

“Emergency? I wonder what they consider an emergency”

You must give up your rights because of the slim chance they are not good for a nearby third-world authoritarian nation.

This precedent is utterly sick. This is nothing less than a declaration that our rights are conditional upon how they affect OTHER nations. They are making similar moves on free speech. Other nations hate a free internet, so we must be regulated.

Our government has become an enemy, it must be changed, by ballot,, IF possible. Where is the line beyond that? I do not know, but i am sure it does exist. One day, the statists will miscalculate and cross that line.

A train wreck is coming,, either the dictatorship gives up their design to enslave us, or there will be violence. I do not see any other possible outcome. It’s sad that it comes to this,, but sadder that our children will live in an American version of the USSR if we fold, rather than resist.


124 posted on 12/21/2010 9:36:55 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: DesertRhino

Indeed.


125 posted on 12/21/2010 9:49:25 AM PST by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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To: crosshairs

There are several here on FR who would welcome the “opportunity” to start CW2.


126 posted on 12/21/2010 10:04:50 AM PST by sthguard (The DNC theme song: "All You Need is Guv")
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To: AU72

taking a lesson from his buddy Chavez I see.....


127 posted on 12/21/2010 10:51:01 AM PST by Newton ('No arsenal is so formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women.' -Ronald Reagan)
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To: Scythian

BTTT


128 posted on 12/21/2010 11:31:03 AM PST by Daffynition
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To: sergeantdave

The Data Quality Act would seem to be made for combating the climate change hoax and the EPA ruling on C02 being a pollutant.

Without going too far off topic, the secondary problem with the climate change fiasco is the scientists have been so discredited by their own actions that any sane and logical approach to reducing real pollution (which should be a goal of everyone) becomes impossible as it is now 100% political.

Thanks for the info. Very informative to say the least.


129 posted on 12/21/2010 1:04:48 PM PST by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: Scythian
this link says it all :

the reason for the 2nd amendment

130 posted on 12/21/2010 1:31:03 PM PST by KTM rider ( patriot turned rebel)
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To: crosshairs
"I prefer just cleaning out D.C."

And how, pray tell, are we supposed to "clean out DC" when we vote and they don't listen? We sent a loud and very clear message on November 2nd, yet in this lame duck Congress, the Obammunist has continued to advance his tyrannical agenda. Hell's Bell's, Congress voted down net neutrality, but the Obammunist is just going ahead and doing it anyway! They aren't letting a little thing called "the law" get in the way...they're tyrants, they're Commies, they hate America as we've always known it, and they're dedicated to "fundamentally transforming" our nation. So how the hell are we gonna "clean out DC", if they're ignoring the rules?

Communists understand only one thing...brute force.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

131 posted on 12/21/2010 3:51:41 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: Wurlitzer

“The Data Quality Act would seem to be made for combating the climate change hoax and the EPA ruling on C02 being a pollutant.”

That’s exactly what’s going on. Businesses and organizations are filing DQA challenges to EPA rules. I don’t know how many lawsuits are pending against the EPA, but it could be hundreds. Furthermore, the DQA pins down the courts and demands that the courts use the best available science when ruling on these cases.

The USSC violated the DQA when it ruled that CO 2 was a pollutant that the EPA could regulate. By extension, the SC violated congressional law. That alone is cause for congress to move against the supreme court judges and fire a warning shot across the bow. That warning shot should be delivered privately and face-to-face, telling these Marxist clowns that if they rule that way again, they will be either impeached or the court’s purview to rule on these matters will be stripped away by congress.

We can’t do that yet because we don’t have the numbers in congress to muscle these Marxist black robes to rule constitutionally.

That day is coming soon.


132 posted on 12/21/2010 4:08:12 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Carry_Okie

Personally, I believe ALL gun laws are unconstitutional.

Period.


133 posted on 12/23/2010 5:06:27 AM PST by Emperor Palpatine (I'm shocked! Shocked to find out that gambling is going on in here!)
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To: sam_paine

Border area gun dealers could conceiveably include North Dakota, Montana, Maine, Alaska, etc. They have international borders, too. Or did it specify the Southern Border?


134 posted on 12/24/2010 10:20:04 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
Personally, I believe ALL gun laws are unconstitutional. Period.

"...shall not be infringed."

I agree.

135 posted on 12/24/2010 10:49:16 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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