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Breaking : Feds want reporting for high-powered rifle sales (emergency request)

Posted on 12/20/2010 11:19:52 AM PST by Scythian

It's on the AP wire ...

Anything higher than a .22 is considered a high power rifle in this request


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1 posted on 12/20/2010 11:19:54 AM PST by Scythian
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Obama is going to rule the next 2 years by EO then by decree.


2 posted on 12/20/2010 11:21:47 AM PST by AU72
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Link here

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101220/ap_on_re_us/us_gun_sales_reporting_2


3 posted on 12/20/2010 11:22:49 AM PST by Scythian
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Feds want reporting for high-powered rifle sales

(AP) – 55 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — The federal agency that monitors gun sales wants weapons dealers near the Mexican border to start reporting multiple sales of high-powered rifles, according to a notice published in the Federal Register.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has asked the White House budget office to approve an emergency request requiring border-area gun dealers to report the sales of two or more rifles to the same customer within a five-day period.

The emergency request, published Friday in the Federal Register, is likely to face stiff opposition from gun rights advocates, including the National Rifle Association. ATF wants the Office of Budget Management to approve the request by Jan. 5.
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If approved by the White House, the new reporting requirement would affect nearly 8,500 border-area gun dealers in Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas and be in place for 180 days.


4 posted on 12/20/2010 11:24:03 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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Fed.gov (ATF) probably considers anything other than a single-shot to be a machine gun!


5 posted on 12/20/2010 11:24:03 AM PST by 2harddrive
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Emergency? I wonder what they consider an emergency.


6 posted on 12/20/2010 11:24:49 AM PST by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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And more than one is an “aresenal”.


7 posted on 12/20/2010 11:25:23 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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AP is a little slow on the uptake. NRA and NSSL have already been all over this (and I’ve seen it on FR, too). Reading the Federal Register entry, it sound like a) .22 LR rifles are exempt, and b) it’s not restricted to any geographical area, lamestream media reporting notwithstanding.


8 posted on 12/20/2010 11:25:55 AM PST by backwoods-engineer (Onward to the battle royal!)
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To: AU72

Civil War II is coming & NObama is bringing it.


9 posted on 12/20/2010 11:27:43 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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Emergency? I wonder what they consider an emergency.


10 posted on 12/20/2010 11:28:17 AM PST by muddler (Diligentia, Vis and Celeritas)
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The Nazis are on the move. It’s Blitzkrieg Against America time!


11 posted on 12/20/2010 11:29:19 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Merry Christmas to all of my FReeper FRiends!)
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There are Zero plans associated with this "emergency"...

Looks like the gloves are coming off the FIST.

In 1996, a Commission for the Bureau of Justice Statistics developed a computer database through which all information regarding gun purchases must flow. The result was the Firearms Inquiry Statistical Tracking: FIST.

Any government agent or agency who wants a list of gun owners must salivate at the potential of FIST. This data base includes "fields" for all information that is gathered at the point of purchase, which incorporates the 4473 form, the Brady form, and any applicable state forms.

Put together, these forms contain the name, address, Social Security number, drivers license number, age, sex, race, height, weight, home and business phone, concealed carry permit request information, the firearm's make, model, serial number, caliber and barrel length, information regarding the final outcome of the background check, and more.

Herein lies the opportunities for abuse. All of the above information is sent from the dealer to the Chief Law Enforcement Officer (CLEO), who is the person responsible for executing the background check. This can be done now with the FIST program.

The CLEO is supposed to retain the information for only 20 days, but is in effect accountable to no one for doing so. With all of this information already computerized, it would be an incredibly simple task to gather up diskettes nationwide and compile a national list of gun owners.

Gun owners must wake up to the dangers of the "instant registration check." Law-abiding citizens should not have to receive prior government approval, whether it be through an instant check or any other means, before exercising their rights. The instant registration scheme is poised to become the downfall of the Second Amendment.

The referenced text is at the bottom of the source page linked above.
12 posted on 12/20/2010 11:29:25 AM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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Emergency? I wonder what they consider an emergency.

The ranchers are threatening to protect themselves

Thats just going too far.

13 posted on 12/20/2010 11:29:25 AM PST by skeeter
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I wonder if this will be retroactively applied, or only for rifle purchases going forward?


14 posted on 12/20/2010 11:34:37 AM PST by skeeter
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To: Scythian

Obama? One giant step backwards for America.

He is fostering a civil crisis.


15 posted on 12/20/2010 11:36:10 AM PST by himno hero
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To: ridesthemiles
Civil War II is coming & NObama is bringing it.

IMO, since it's something that usurper desperately wants, we have to try like hell to prevent. I prefer just cleaning out D.C.
16 posted on 12/20/2010 11:37:25 AM PST by crosshairs (The word for actor in Greek is hypocrite (its true).)
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Sounds like everyone should buy two or three of them in the next few weeks.

Flood their system.

Let ‘em know we got ‘em, in spades.

Look around - I saw some Russian 9130’s a couple of weeks ago for $99. Good old accurate rifle.


17 posted on 12/20/2010 11:39:04 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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So gun runners will start buying their weapons in Oklahoma and Utah and Colorado. It’ll just raise the delivery cost a bit due to the extra gas and man-hours - and cost isn’t of much concern to drug cartels. Of course, when the buyers move north, that means this requirement will then be extended to the entire United States, which is probably what is intended all along.


18 posted on 12/20/2010 11:41:29 AM PST by dirtboy
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re: feds

IMHO the new four-letter F-word.

19 posted on 12/20/2010 11:41:58 AM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: skeeter
I wonder if this will be retroactively applied, or only for rifle purchases going forward?

Pessimistically, that would be two steps away. The intermediate step would be to gather the information during any gun related interaction between any law enforcement agent and any law abiding gun owning citizen, such as a speeding ticket given while legally transporting a gun in a car, restraining order, armed security guard license, etc.

The step after the retroactive registration is, of course, confiscation.

20 posted on 12/20/2010 11:42:48 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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