Posted on 12/20/2010 11:19:52 AM PST by Scythian
Someone help me out here.
Don’t dealers already record every individual firearm sale on a 4473?
and,
Doesn’t the ATF already have access to every 4473 that’s been completed by a customer?
Further, how is it the duty of a private dealer to undertake enforcement powers (and I think it could be argued that data aggregation is a tool of enforcement) specifically delegated to the ATF?
I understand, but don’t agree with the concept of requiring the data to be collected, but requiring this “second level” data sifting, organization, manipulation, and reporting of the collected data is just laziness on the part of the ATF, as that is something THEY should be doing already! And if not, why not?
These questions should be addressed.
It seems to be. Where did you get this information? From the story:
“weapons dealers near the Mexican border to start reporting multiple sales of high-powered rifles,”
What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts
This regime is as paranoid as a crack dealer who’s shorted his supplier. Their criminal, traitorous, dealings are making them very afraid. Wicki-Links may not be their only problem. Why else would they be in such a hurry to shut down the internet, disarm the people and silence any critics? Old George Soreass has demanded results or said he’ll get a new team.
Pray for the best
Prepare for the worst!
Power mad bureaucrats never let go of anything.
“Papers Please” < /fake hollywood nazi accent >
Lord Obama and the Rat infested media used that meme when Arizona wanted to crack down on criminals illegally entering into America and taking up falsified identies.
Step two is to declare that the "border-area" extends to the great lakes.
And more than one is an “aresenal”.
Also, 100 rounds of ammo is a "cache," and more than one hard structure on an acre plot with a gate is a "compound."
Information is power & they never let go of power.
Must be a plague of snipers out there.
somewhere.
If someone had told me a years ago that we could have a second “civil war” I would have thought they were nuts. Now the only way the south and the border states can stop the current invasion is to secede and close the border. History does repeat itself, obama is the new Lincoln. I believe that he would rather have a civil war then close the border. Or perhaps a civil war would be a great way for him to take full mititary control of the nation.
I'm really surprised the feds haven't thought of this!
Buy now... before Jan 1st
Wish I had some excess cash
Yes
"Doesn’t the ATF already have access to every 4473 that’s been completed by a customer?"
The individual 4473(s) are stored with the dealer in a "bound book". The ATF has access to the forms at the individual dealer's business, not in a national database format. The ATF also has access to the information on the forms through a trace process seeking dealers to provide information from previous sales.
If a Federally licensed dealer sells 2 or more handguns in a 5 day period they must report the transfer(s) to the ATF via form 3310.4.
With this "emergency request" the ATF is trying to expand the requirement that dealers report multiple sales of long guns (ATF refers to "modern sporting rifles") where now that requirement only applies to pistols and revolvers.
Even though most news sources indicate that this new requirement would only apply to boarder states, that is probably reported inaccurately - this will apply to the whole nation.
See here for more info: ATF to Require Multiple Sales Reports for Long Guns
Get a military surplus item..
“Obama is going to rule the next 2 years by EO then by decree.”
That’s sorta what it’s sounding like, isn’t it. Hugo Chavez here we come.
WTH?!
IS the hammer REALLY about to drop?
The government and Obama can sell Saudi billions in arms and war machines but they want us monitored for gun sales?
No one really listens when I say this yet no one denies but I am sorry but we are headed for global government/currency communism. The only HOPE for the world...(see the UK Europe how far gone they are) is America and us stopping it. Vote out all commiecrats and mostly all republicans is the only hope.
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