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To: Lurking Libertarian

Of course they did. They included slaves and women.

But that doesn’t mean they meant to include foreigners.

Perhaps they did, but both in the original and in the 14th, it’s not clear-cut.


51 posted on 12/21/2010 11:13:40 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
Of course they did. They included slaves and women.

Slavery had already been abolished by the 13th Amendment before the 14th was ratified.

But that doesn’t mean they meant to include foreigners. Perhaps they did, but both in the original and in the 14th, it’s not clear-cut.

The wave of European immigration to the United States began in the 1830s and accelerated after the Civil War; by the time the 14th Amendment was ratified in 1868, there were already enough Irish immigrants in Boston and New York City to substantially affect the Congressional representation of those cities. If Congress didn't want aliens to be counted, they would have said so.

62 posted on 12/21/2010 11:49:33 AM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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