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Florida Republicans Want Jeb Bush to Challenge Nelson
Roll Call ^ | Dec. 27, 2010 | By Christina Bellantoni

Posted on 12/28/2010 7:40:28 AM PST by US Navy Vet

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To: UCFRoadWarrior

He did not show “total weakness.” He took every legal means possible and took it to the courts; he even had a special bill in the Florida Legislature drafted to save her. It was defeated by his arch-enemy, the RINO Jim King.

He was clearly not going to show up and storm her room, but he fought a very hard legal fight for her. Speaking of which, were you there at the hospital?

I was, and the pathetic thing was that there were only a tiny handful of us who even bothered to turn out to protest and keep vigil. There were more reporters than protesters, and the reporters were even laughing about it. (I think they were a little shocked.)

Perhaps if there had been more popular support for Terry, not just keyboard kommandos, but people actually turning up and putting their own bodies on the line, Jim King wouldn’t have been able to get away with it.


21 posted on 12/28/2010 8:47:54 AM PST by livius
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To: US Navy Vet

no more Bushes


22 posted on 12/28/2010 8:49:42 AM PST by Gipper08 (www.travishankins.com...a real CONSERVATIVE)
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To: Iron Munro

I really, really hope 2012 turns on constitutional issues—amnesty and a turning back of overweaning fed\gov powers.


23 posted on 12/28/2010 8:51:06 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Domalais

My God, we just got rid of the Kennedys. I was hoping we could stop this American Royalty BS.


24 posted on 12/28/2010 9:02:34 AM PST by Vermont Lt (Don't taze my junk bro.)
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To: US Navy Vet

I don’t really have a problem with a Senator Bush. There would be 99 other senators and he would just be one. It’s when they become president that I start having issues. If he beats Nelson, fine.


25 posted on 12/28/2010 9:12:19 AM PST by OrangeHoof (Washington, we Texans want a divorce!)
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To: US Navy Vet

I have a feeling this may end up like the Daniel Webster/ Alan Grayson race.

Webster, a strong party insider, was not overly interested in running but was so well known he could easily defeat the democratic opponent. A number of TEA party types entered the race before Webster decided to run. Not one of the TEA Party candidates had enough name recognition or money or grassroot support to be able to handle Grayson. Webster stepped in at the last minute and won the primary. Then he easily defeated Grayson. I see the same thing happening with JEB.

I would rather have a conservative in the Senate. So I hope all possible conservative candidates will get out there now. If they wait, the only way to dislodge Nelson will be with JEB.


26 posted on 12/28/2010 9:13:22 AM PST by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Floridian here——NO MORE BUSH’S


27 posted on 12/28/2010 9:19:31 AM PST by Captain7seas (FIRE JANE LUBCHENCO FROM NOAA)
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To: Vermont Lt

Luckily there aren’t that many Clintons to go around.

Unluckily, there are lots of Bushes.

Oh, and lets find some more Ryans too.


28 posted on 12/28/2010 9:23:25 AM PST by Domalais
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To: livius

I’m sure you’ll think that when he co-sponsors and votes for stuff like DREAM, “Comprehensive Immigration Reform” (i.e. Amnesty), etc.

GW Bush was a good president and sprang no surprises (at least on those who heard him when he mentioned “compassionate conservatism”). But he was lucky in his choice of opponents. Bush are acceptable only when their opponents are out and out commies like Kerry, or Eco-fascists like Gore. If he ran against, say, Zell Miller, I might have voted Democrat for the first time in my life...
Of course Democrats don’t run that way any more.


29 posted on 12/28/2010 9:48:09 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: US Navy Vet

As Jesse Jacka$$ said, “STAY OUT DE BUSHES!”...............


30 posted on 12/28/2010 10:17:12 AM PST by Red Badger (Whenever these vermin call you an 'idiot', you can be sure that you are doing to something right.)
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To: Little Ray

I doubt that Jeb would go for “DREAM,” which is nothing but a Dem boondoggle.

However, like it or not, we do have to do something about our immmigration (non-) policy. Bambi issued an administrative order that put people from Muslim countries ahead of Latin Americans. You may hate Latin Americans, but they’re our neighbors and do share our values - and one of the reasons many of them come here is that their countries, thanks to the likes of Carter, Clinton and Obama, turned leftist and they are fleeing for economic reasons. Muslims share none of our values and are coming here to destroy us.

So how about dropping the “hate Latin Americans” part of immigration reform and thinking about what is best for the US? (Hint: it’s not more Muslims.)

Make a good suggestion, don’t just carp about anybody who tries to make a suggestion. That’s the way to get exactly what we do not want, which is a huge legal influx of people who hate us.


31 posted on 12/28/2010 10:20:59 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

He did not show “total weakness.” He took every legal means possible and took it to the courts; he even had a special bill in the Florida Legislature drafted to save her. It was defeated by his arch-enemy, the RINO Jim King.

He was clearly not going to show up and storm her room, but he fought a very hard legal fight for her. Speaking of which, were you there at the hospital?

I was, and the pathetic thing was that there were only a tiny handful of us who even bothered to turn out to protest and keep vigil. There were more reporters than protesters, and the reporters were even laughing about it. (I think they were a little shocked.)

Perhaps if there had been more popular support for Terry, not just keyboard kommandos, but people actually turning up and putting their own bodies on the line, Jim King wouldn’t have been able to get away with it.


Yes, Jeb had every legal right to go in there and get Terri out of that hospice. Numerous legal experts advised him and his staff that it was well within the Florida Constitution for him to take action (the obvious one was that a state judge cannot order an execution or a person to die...only the governor can do so). Jeb and his aides ignored all of the recommendations.

I think Jeb’s real fear was that the judge who ordered Terri to die was also a Republican....which means Jeb would rather be a RINO than a conservative

It is good to hear that you were there at the protests. However, your efforts are all futile if you support the same governor who cut and ran on Terri’s life.


32 posted on 12/28/2010 10:36:28 AM PST by UCFRoadWarrior (Whenever something is "Global"...it means its bad for America)
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To: livius

Jeb Bush would have voted for DREAM in an instant:
“Jeb Bush in Washington this morning said he is “supportive” of the concept behind the DREAM Act but emphasized border security as a first priority, a move toward the Republican line.”
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/content/jeb-bush-dream-act-border-security-comes-first

The part about “border security” is probably just lip service. Something about PO’d TEA Partiers... We all know how “enthusiastic” the Bushes have been about border security in the past.

I don’t hate Latin Americans. I hate invading barbarians who have no intention of integrating, every intention of exploiting the system for all they can get and bringing the same cultures here that made their countries into hell-holes. That is definitely NOT limited to Latin Americans. They’re just the most visible (and obnoxious).

However, I will agree that Moslems of any type are more of a security risk.

We don’t need “Comprehensive Immigration Reform.” We know that Congress is largely populated with lying bastards and that they’ll only give lip service to border security and while using amnesty to gin up a new constituency of voters entirely dependent on them.

First, we need a secure border. Then we need draconian measures against anyone knowingly hiring illegals. Finally, we need a drastic change in priority on who we admit to the country. THEN we can talk about what do about the illegals already here (but by that time a lot of ‘em will have self deported...).

Step by step this can be fixed. But anything “Comprehensive” is pretty obviously a fraud.


33 posted on 12/28/2010 10:44:32 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

It wasn’t the judge, who may be a GOPer but was a well-known Scientologist. The last chance was the bill before the Florida Senate, and it was the RINO Jim King who killed that.

Maybe Jeb should simply have marched into the hospital and carried her out of there, constitutional crisis be damned. But the state police and the local police (the town is a Scientologist town) were actually standing by to arrest him and resist him with force if he showed up. This was actually to those of us who were there so that we wouldn’t get any ideas about doing likewise or supporting Bush if he showed up.

Curiously, it was not reported by the press.


34 posted on 12/28/2010 10:49:03 AM PST by livius
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To: Little Ray

It’s got to be “Comprehensive” because we have to set a policy. The policy should be what benefits the US.

What benefits us? Some educated workers from Europe, India and Latin America, but not enough to displace our own educated labor force. Uneducated but willing workers from our next door neighbor, Latin America, because they can go home easily and they actually want to do so - and therefore, we have to make it easier for them to come here, work and go home. Right now they can’t go home because they’re not sure they’re going to be able to come back when they need money and we need lower level labor. Change that.

What doesn’t benefit us? Muslims from Muslim countries (Middle Eastern, African and SE Asian countries) as well as the new dhimmi countries of England, Germany and France. I’m not sure how we can sort them out, but that’s a very important thing. Bush (GW) tried to get special immigration permits for persecuted Christians in Africa and the ME, but of course the Dems shot it down.


35 posted on 12/28/2010 10:57:25 AM PST by livius
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To: livius
Any “Comprehensive” bill will be fraudulent. That has always been the case in the past. It has to be done step by step. Border security, labor enforcement, immigration reform, in that order. When one step is in place and working, the next one can begin.

Besides, the shortages that the first two steps create are the only way we'll get an idea what sort of "reform" we need in the third...

Also, we don't need semi-literate foreign labor (not much at least). We have teens who need part-time, summer and entry-level employment, as well as a chronically underemployed underclass that needs start filling that niche. We're going to have to cut “entitlements” or go bankrupt so that's one avenue to vector our own underclasses - work or starve. Only if wages are getting totally distorted should we consider a guest worker program - and illegals should not qualify.

We should raid the brains of every nation we can. I don't think there are really enough of ‘em make that much of a dent in our employment situation. However, we need to stop hiring our enemies (i.e. the Chinese) into potentially sensitive positions. Too many of 'em seem to take our secrets with them on a laptop (or just a thumb drive) when they go home.

I agree we don't need immigrants from Moslem nations. Even if the original immigrants are good citizens, their kids seem to be liable to radicalization.

Finally, we need to put an end to the oversupply of lawyers and liberal arts grads coming out out of our universities and turn out more engineers, techies, mathematicians, and scientists. We also need to end the idea that everyone should go to college and start a really good trade school program.

36 posted on 12/28/2010 11:34:21 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: US Navy Vet

To be perfectly honest, I would rather keep Bill Nelson than elect an open borders RINO like Jeb Bush to the Senate.


37 posted on 12/28/2010 12:32:41 PM PST by WilliamHouston
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To: WilliamHouston

So you would rather keep Nelson and spout complete BS??? Jeb has been very clear that securing the borders is a priority. Fail.


38 posted on 12/28/2010 3:34:22 PM PST by al_again2010
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To: Joe Boucher

I am a Floridian, and I Say YES!!!!


39 posted on 12/28/2010 3:40:21 PM PST by southphilly
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To: Waryone

Please explain how Jeb is not a conservative?

1) Is he for bigger government?
2) Is he for higher taxes?
3) Is he against state rights?
4) Is he against personal liberty
5) Is he against property rights?

Everyone is hung up immigration. Do you realize that the cost associated with illegal immigrants is insignifcant when compared to Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, Soc Secturity, and the military????

Maybe focus on the big problems first and then we can take care of the little problems!

And before anyone starts - securing the border and dealing with existing illegals is two completely separate issues.


40 posted on 12/28/2010 3:42:52 PM PST by al_again2010
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