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DA: Funeral processions should be banned
The Monitor ^ | 12/23/2010 | Naxiley Lopez

Posted on 12/29/2010 8:50:55 AM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: Responsibility2nd

Or perhaps a “Bereavement Bus”?


21 posted on 12/29/2010 9:06:51 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 706 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: mewzilla
That personal bereavement doesn't give one the right to break traffic laws.

Most states have specific laws for funeral processions.

22 posted on 12/29/2010 9:07:40 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: null and void

Cool idea. One with a fully stocked bar?


23 posted on 12/29/2010 9:08:28 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: DManA

To me, the “point” is to take a few moments to realize that what’s so damn important to me really isn’t. And, although I don’t know the decedent, others do and I hope to provide the same courtesy to them that I’d like for my own family and loved ones. People are foolishly self-interested and think their “errands” and such are somehow going to change the world or something.


24 posted on 12/29/2010 9:08:55 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Responsibility2nd

I was on a freeway and a very long procession was taking up the slow lane. It was a mess because nobody could break through and take the exits. The middle lane skidded to a halt. In all the mayhem, I missed my exit and had to drive to the next one and make a u-turn, not a short distance. Not a great big deal since I’m still alive to tell about it, but the situation could have resulted in accidents.

It’s one thing on back roads, but processions on major roads is a hazard.


25 posted on 12/29/2010 9:10:00 AM PST by kdot
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To: Responsibility2nd

I was on a freeway and a very long procession was taking up the slow lane. It was a mess because nobody could break through and take the exits. The middle lane skidded to a halt. In all the mayhem, I missed my exit and had to drive to the next one and make a u-turn, not a short distance. Not a great big deal since I’m still alive to tell about it, but the situation could have resulted in accidents.

It’s one thing on back roads, but processions on major roads is a hazard.


26 posted on 12/29/2010 9:10:00 AM PST by kdot
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To: Responsibility2nd

The DA who wants to ban these funeral processions must not travel outside of his home county. Funeral processions take place in almost every city in the US everyday with some minor exceptions. These processions are a staple of American life and indeed processions of some type are used in most every culture in the world.

What I take from this article is the increasing lack of respect and manners, not only for the dead, but for the living who are mourning/honoring the deceased, as well as for the authorities (uniformed, undertakers and clergy) who are trying to provide a service to the community.


27 posted on 12/29/2010 9:10:09 AM PST by miele man
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To: Responsibility2nd
"I think a better idea is to have the service. Then announce there will be NO PROCESSION to the cemetary."

One of the nice things about America is that if you wish to do such for a funeral of one your deaceased loved ones you can.

Well, at least America used to be that way. More and more the Nanny-staters wish to impose their will on the rest of us. Especially it seems when a time honored tradition of repsect and honor is on the line. (Like putting up a cross in memory of deceased soldiers and such...)

28 posted on 12/29/2010 9:12:10 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Responsibility2nd

My first thought: Why don’t people just crawl in a hole and not move or interact with each other. Think of the infections. Think of RISK. Think of the RISKS when you just celebrate another’s life.

Everytime people go anywhere, do something, there is a risk to life. Then again, they can just die in home, in bed. Hmmmmm. I remember a person who was in a car stopped at a red light, and a limb of a tree fell down and killed him. What were the odds of that???

Deaths happens. Then again, life happens. Is there a God or not? The responsibility for life should be up to the individual in a free society. The more government interferes with rules and regulations and threats, the more people expect safety, so they let down caution......I think the autobahn is an example of that principle.

People are more responsible for their lives when they don’t assume government and rules are there to protect them. Take the people who don’t own guns because of the police force. Think of the people who aren’t cautious at intersections because of a green light and get killed because of someone running a red. It seems that happens quite a lot actually—to my father-in-law anyway.

Life is a risk. Some people have a lot of “luck”, some people have none. That is life.

The one thing I have observed—is more nanny state rules and regulations, the less free and the more at risk everyone it. Think of how everyone assumed dog food was safe because we have the FDA and lost their pets. Are you really so sure of the safety of our food supply because of the FDA? I’m not. Wouldn’t trust them at all when they allowed melamine in baby formula. What else do people not know.

We really have to get back to the original intent of the Constitution. People should all be responsible for themselves and government should be doing what it was designed for—protect property rights (laugh) and protect borders (laughing even harder). And our populous has got to grow up and be responsible for themselves and not expect government to hold their hand as they cross a street so they don’t get hit by a car.


29 posted on 12/29/2010 9:19:39 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: Mad Dawgg

My father, grandfather, and uncle were all law enforcement of various types. Everyone of them hated the processions because of the danger involved in them. Neither my father nor my grandfather had a procession at their funeral.


30 posted on 12/29/2010 9:20:07 AM PST by Fellow Traveler
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To: savagesusie

I am not sure but it appears that you want to get rid of all road safety rules and traffic control devices?


31 posted on 12/29/2010 9:23:08 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Responsibility2nd

I don’t agree with Mr. Guerra, but I think he makes some valid points. I’ve always thought it a troubling conflict of interest that private parties can hire peace officers in their official capacities for private events.

For example, why should a uniformed Dallas police officer be empowered to stop traffic on Monfort Drive to let bank customers have reasonable access to the thoroughfare when the bank should bear the cost of having to move locations? I have had to wait for considerable periods and been more than a little inconvenienced by such arrangments.

I think the official justification is that the city’s allowing a police officer to “work security” is much cheaper than installing a traffic light, but that is really a dodge. It ends up rewarding a stupid decision by bank management and appropriating the time of motorists who aren’t bank customers - this without just compensation.

I’m really adamant about not granting police powers to private individuals or interests. There is just too much potential for abuse.

But I have missed appointments in order to stop for funeral processions. Under the circumstances, I don’t mind. I figure it’s the least I can do for the grieving friends and family members. Do unto others and all that...


32 posted on 12/29/2010 9:25:22 AM PST by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: Responsibility2nd

That would add a bit of stress to those who attend from out of town. After riding in several processions of our fallen troops it is a comfort to see those who come outside and give respect to the fallen during the entire procession. Most of the families have also voiced that it gave them comfort to see community support during the trip from the funeral to the final resting place.


33 posted on 12/29/2010 9:29:33 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

A few months ago, my FIL passed away after a long full life. During the procession, we passed a parking lot where the local cheerleaders were having a carwash to raise money. They saw us all slowly driving by and they got excited, thinking that we were potential customers. They jumped around, shook their pompoms and cheered loudly as we passed. The old man would have loved it!


34 posted on 12/29/2010 9:30:07 AM PST by Nathan Jr.
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To: miele man
There is an aspect of disrespect for others on the road by taking it over for a personal purposes.

What I take from this article is the increasing lack of respect and manners,

35 posted on 12/29/2010 9:30:35 AM PST by DManA
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To: Responsibility2nd

Seems to me a safety toss-up. Is it more dangerous to have a funeral procession, or to have 80-year-old Uncle Frank and Aunt Bertha driving around lost, looking for the cemetery?


36 posted on 12/29/2010 9:30:38 AM PST by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: Nathan Jr.

Great story.


37 posted on 12/29/2010 9:31:34 AM PST by DManA
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To: Responsibility2nd
One with a fully stocked bar?

...and casseroles!

38 posted on 12/29/2010 9:33:18 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 706 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

The worst: When they do the motorcade on the freeway.


39 posted on 12/29/2010 9:34:36 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: caseinpoint

Sometimes it isn’t just the elderly. We had relatively young cousins attend my Mom’s funeral. They live in central Pa (small town). They were thrown into D.C. suburban driving... rude, aggressive etc... Plus, they were unsure of the area. That was for the viewing. We split them up into friend’s cars for the burial.


40 posted on 12/29/2010 9:36:51 AM PST by momtothree
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