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1 posted on 12/29/2010 2:25:38 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

He’s lying. If he doesn’t know that this winter’s weather is very typical of a La Nina he’s no scientist and should be fired from NOAA.


29 posted on 12/29/2010 2:46:38 PM PST by colorado tanker
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But, Peterson concluded, “People will use individual events to justify whatever opinion they have on the matter.”

You mean like when they show charts of temperature variations for tiny, carefully selected periods of time rather than showing the charts for thousands or millions of years?

31 posted on 12/29/2010 3:00:20 PM PST by Cementjungle
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THE ACQUITTAL OF CARBON DIOXIDE
by Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD

ABSTRACT:

"Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere [historically] is the product of oceanic respiration due to the well-known but under-appreciated solubility pump. Carbon dioxide rises out of warm ocean waters where it is added to the atmosphere. There it is mixed with residual and accidental CO2, and circulated, to be absorbed into the sink of the cold ocean waters. Next the thermohaline circulation carries the CO2-rich sea water deep into the ocean. A millennium later it appears at the surface in warm waters, saturated by lower pressure and higher temperature, to be exhausted back into the atmosphere. Throughout the past 420 millennia, comprising four interglacial periods, the Vostok record of atmospheric carbon dioxide concentration is imprinted with, and fully characterized by, the physics of the solubility of CO2 in water, along with the lag in the deep ocean circulation.

Notwithstanding that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, atmospheric carbon dioxide has neither caused nor amplified global temperature increases. Increased carbon dioxide has been an effect of global warming, not a cause [historically -etl]. Technically, carbon dioxide is a lagging proxy for ocean temperatures. When global temperature, and along with it, ocean temperature rises, the physics of solubility causes atmospheric CO2 to increase.

If increases in carbon dioxide, or any other greenhouse gas, could have in turn raised global temperatures, the positive feedback would have been catastrophic. While the conditions for such a catastrophe were present in the Vostok record from natural causes, the runaway event did not occur. Carbon dioxide does not accumulate in the atmosphere."

http://www.rocketscientistsjournal.com/2006/10/co2_acquittal.html
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32 posted on 12/29/2010 3:03:26 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Does this dumb son of a bitch live in an alternate universe?

He should be ashamed to show his face in public after making such idiotic statements.

He much be the lowest in seniority around the office, and he’s the poor underling they trotted out to look like a fool this week.


33 posted on 12/29/2010 3:04:29 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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Climate change to intensify winter weather unless it doesn't...
34 posted on 12/29/2010 3:06:07 PM PST by SteamShovel (Beware the RINO-VIRUS...It will kill the TEA Party movement.)
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I grow so weary of these nimrods. When will they have the humility to admit they don’t know what they’re talking about, and have no clue how to control the planet — and thus have no grounds to try to convince the rest of us to lay down our liberties for their schemes. Which, at bottom, is all this is about. Power.


35 posted on 12/29/2010 3:06:50 PM PST by Publius Maximus (God, please let 2012 come quickly...)
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Global Warming Skeptic Predicts Brutal Winter, Warns “You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet”

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/global-warming-skeptic-predicts-brutal-winter-warns-you-aint-seen-nothing-yet/


37 posted on 12/29/2010 3:11:11 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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first they say that global warming will end winters and that snow will be a thing of the past... then when that doesn’t happen, they change their mind and say, that um... well.... what we meant to say is that climate change will make winters even worse!

lol

These people are nothing but con artists that need to be prosecuted and thrown in jail for this scam


38 posted on 12/29/2010 3:11:19 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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Who could possibly believe this cr*pola?


40 posted on 12/29/2010 3:16:56 PM PST by hsalaw
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The Global Warming Marxists are going absolutely off the deep end to hold on to the last shreds of credibility remaining amongst the most gullible sheeple. Soon, we'll be told that unusually cool summers are a result of Global Warming. The planet is getting colder so it must be Global Warming. War is peace... Love is hate... Ignorance is bliss. This is the same double speak that Marxists the world over have employed from the very start. Move along folks, nothing to see here but the same old Socialist drivel.
41 posted on 12/29/2010 3:17:36 PM PST by Desron13
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So when we had droughts during the dust bowl I assume that was due to global cooling.

But wasn’t pollution worse then?

Am I missing something?


44 posted on 12/29/2010 3:38:03 PM PST by mykroar (I believe in the simplistic notion that people who have wealth are entitled to keep it.)
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I never understood why warming=bad weather.

The original GW theory states that the poles are warming at a faster rate than the equator. Ok, this means the differential in temperature between the poles and equator is reduced. So when cold fronts from the poles collide with warm fronts, the weather should gradually get milder.

So even if you do buy their CO2 garbage, the net effect should be the reverse of what they are saying. Its just so cavemanlike and unprovable (perfect for public school teachers to ‘learn’ and use to indoctrnate):

Man make CO2 (especially evil white man)

CO2 retain heat

More heat=bad weather

How? Why?


45 posted on 12/29/2010 3:40:13 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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The problem with their “scientific” method is there is no way to disprove what they say.

Anything and everything they will use to only prove their cause...ah er I mean theory.

It is when everything “proves” their theory is when you know it is fraudulent science.

You have to be able to disprove a theory in order to prove a theory.


51 posted on 12/29/2010 4:10:10 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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“Weather events are pixels in the climate picture. Some are indicative of changes we are experiencing; some simply reflect the variability of weather and climate. As the world continues to warm, heat waves are an example of the former,” he said, while adding that extreme winter weather events are “examples of the latter.”

Translation: "One more falsified prediction from our boys is just a pixel in the overall climate narrative. Some are indicative of the further research we need to do; some simply reflect the unreasonableness of [skeptics]. As the funding continues to flow, the shifts we've taken are an example of the former," he meant, while further meaning that the called-on falsified predictions are "examples of the latter."

These people might as well be Keynesian economics - and this winter is their stagflation. Like Keynesians, they take refuge in unfalsifiability.

"The curve...shifts."

53 posted on 12/29/2010 4:31:26 PM PST by danielmryan
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As I understand it, warming temperatures can cause cooling temperatures as the two temperatures move around in the atmosphere, but the warming/cooling cannot jump continents. Also, a warming continent does not mean the warming is caused by humans.


54 posted on 12/29/2010 6:02:04 PM PST by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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scientists study climate trends over the course of thousands of years.

...but ignore the pesky parts, and then use a recent 30 year period to referrence any current messaged and fudged and cherry picked data used to feed their inadequate models, so they write their biased, twisted, and contorted "reports".

56 posted on 12/29/2010 8:13:13 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Mohammad: the earliest documented pedophile "priest"...and he was proud of it.)
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They say it is “Too Urgent... Too Dangerous! The only way to stop it is “Less Freedom.. More Regulations and Higher Taxes!” and nothing else is even worth arguing about ...

Color me a DENIER and I’d just as soon color their outline with a piece of Chalk.

TT


57 posted on 12/29/2010 9:00:34 PM PST by TexasTransplant (I don't mind liberals... I hate liars...there just tends to be a high degree of overlap)
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Global Warming is a grab bag of theories. Whatever happens, you can reach into the grab bag and pull out one of the many theories to “explain” it. Let’s say this is Global Warming Theory #43. Then, come the next weather event, you cite Global Warming Theory #18. Then, #22. Never mind that these various weather events that are consistent with one of the theories contradicts the others. On the other hand, the whole thing is consistent with natural variation. Yes, the planet has been on a warming trend since the end of the Little Ice Age (and this has been a good thing). At the same time, there has been an upward trend of volcano and earthquake activity, and a more pronounced El Nino/La Nina cycle. Has human activity contributed to whatever is going on? Maybe. The important controversy is the assertion that there is a threshold beyond which the planet will commence continuous warming and that we humans are tipping the scale. But, what is pathetic about this controversy is that there is now nothing that could be done to prevent this scenario. So, if it true, it’s now inevitable. On the other hand, the assertion is a mere speculation based on fears of the dynamic progress of capitalist economies and there is no rational basis for believing in it. If anybody were really serious about science, they would listen to economists as to how to develop a market in greenhouse gases; but, no, it’s all about advancing socialism within the democratic countries of the world and about the rulers of the undemocratic countries of the world shaking us down. These goals are, by the way, contradictory, since socializing the economies of the democratic countries of the world will destroy the wealth that the rules of the undemocratic countries covet.


58 posted on 12/30/2010 6:42:45 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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