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To: Sub-Driver
Ah, but ‘global warming’ caused by carbon emissions, was suppose to create a “greenhouse effect” which melted the polar ice caps...this hasn't happened. Also, Europe was never suppose to have snow again.

Children were going to grow up never to see snow...THAT is what the “climatologists” stated. We have proof of what they said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/snowfalls-are-now-just-a-thing-of-the-past-724017.html

“Global warming, the heating of the atmosphere by increased amounts of industrial gases, is now accepted as a reality by the international community”......”According to Dr David Viner, a senior research scientist at the climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia, within a few years winter snowfall will become “a very rare and exciting event”.

“Children just aren't going to know what snow is,” he said.”

Calling David Viner! Calling David Viner!

25 posted on 12/29/2010 2:44:51 PM PST by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: tuckrdout

So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?

In simple terms the bulk of Earth’s greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth’s greenhouse effect — perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth’s total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, ‘Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,’ Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).

The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other ‘minor greenhouse gases.’ As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/

Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System

Water vapor constitutes Earth’s most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth’s greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many ‘facts and figures’ regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.
Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC’s, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small— perhaps undetectable— effect on global climate.
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html


30 posted on 12/29/2010 2:46:38 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: tuckrdout
Children were going to grow up never to see snow...THAT is what the “climatologists” stated.

Yup. Two of my great-granddaughters live in Florida, and they were delighted to see the sleet, snow, slush ... whatever it was that fell on Jax.

47 posted on 12/29/2010 3:51:09 PM PST by Ole Okie
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