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TSA Misses Luggage That Explodes After Flight
Judicial Watch ^ | December 29, 2010 | Judicial Watch

Posted on 12/29/2010 6:43:32 PM PST by opentalk

Despite a $98 million infusion for state-of-the-art baggage screening machines, the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) somehow missed a suitcase filled with explosives that blasted after a three-hour domestic flight.

The shameful gaffe is simply the latest of many for the beleaguered Homeland Security agency charged with protecting the nation’s transportation system. A checked bag on a flight from Boston to Miami contained hundreds of bullet primers that exploded on the tarmac after the plane arrived in south Florida. Primers provide the spark that detonates the gunpowder in bullets.

The bag belongs to a 37-year-old man, said to be a naturalized U.S. citizen, who was scheduled to catch a connecting flight to Jamaica. When an airline baggage handler in Miami moved the suitcase on the tarmac, it ignited. The FBI was quick to point out that there were no injuries and immediately ruled out any sort of terrorism threat.

Authorities initially attributed the incident to an aerosol can exploding inside a passenger’s checked luggage, which led one local news agency in south Florida to sarcastically report that a “can of hairspray caused a bit of a scare at Miami International Airport. “ Another labeled it as a “freak accident” though Boston media took the incident more seriously with a headline that read: “Luggage that left from Logan explodes in Fla.”

The alarming event caps a series of never-ending TSA blunders that have severely compromised national security in the last few months. While the 50,000-member agency harasses honest citizens with invasive, genital-groping personal searches, it ignores real threats and persecutes its critics.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: disinformation; homelandsecurity; napolitano; tsa; tsapervs
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1 posted on 12/29/2010 6:43:35 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Must have been an "oversight".

Nothing to worry about, move along.

2 posted on 12/29/2010 6:46:30 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: opentalk

I saw this story. The story even said that “aerosols had been immediately banned at the airport” - and it was a major source.

News is just lies now. We better just assume it’s all lies from this point.


3 posted on 12/29/2010 6:47:40 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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To: opentalk

The bag belongs to a 37-year-old man, said to be a naturalized U.S. citizen.

If they hadn't spent so much time rummaging through grandma's luggage...

4 posted on 12/29/2010 6:48:28 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The DemocRATS. Just doing the jobs the Grim Reaper doesn't want to do.)
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To: opentalk

It didn’t blow up on the plane.

The system worked...


5 posted on 12/29/2010 6:48:43 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 706 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: opentalk; abb
A checked bag on a flight from Boston to Miami contained hundreds of bullet primers

Sheesh. Why I Long Since Quit Trusting The MSM.

6 posted on 12/29/2010 6:49:37 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: opentalk

I feel so safe. ;-)


7 posted on 12/29/2010 6:50:22 PM PST by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: opentalk
When an airline baggage handler in Miami moved the suitcase on the tarmac, it ignited.

That must have been one hot tarmac.

Wait a minute. I thought Flordia was in the middle of a deep freeze!

8 posted on 12/29/2010 6:50:31 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: opentalk

“When an airline baggage handler in Miami moved the suitcase on the tarmac, it ignited.”

Sounds like the handler tried to slide the suitcase (or kicked it) ACROSS the TARMAC, and caused the ignition.

That still doesn’t explain how it got through ‘security’ checkpoints or luggage ‘scans’.


9 posted on 12/29/2010 6:51:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: opentalk

Things aren’t terrorists.


10 posted on 12/29/2010 6:52:10 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Tagline: (optional, printed after your name on post):)
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To: opentalk

Hairspray

What oafs


11 posted on 12/29/2010 6:52:35 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: opentalk

How in the hell do Bullet Primers just spontaneously “explode”? If it DID happen, something very freak went on here.

I call BS on this, without more information.


12 posted on 12/29/2010 6:53:09 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: opentalk

Clearly the TSA needs to fondle more genetalia to prevent these kind of incidents!


13 posted on 12/29/2010 6:53:19 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: null and void

The story is way overblown. But don’t worry, it will be used against the traveling public in ways we haven’t yet envisioned.


14 posted on 12/29/2010 6:53:51 PM PST by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Why are TSA exempt from their own searches?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If they hadn't spent so much time rummaging through grandma's luggage undies...
15 posted on 12/29/2010 6:54:43 PM PST by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Just an immigrant, you know, like John Muhammad.


16 posted on 12/29/2010 6:54:49 PM PST by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: opentalk
a suitcase filled with explosives

hundreds of bullet primers


I'm picturing a miniature suitcase bulging with hundreds of primers.
17 posted on 12/29/2010 6:56:14 PM PST by andyk (Hi, my name's Andy, and I am a BF 1942 / Desert Combat junkie.)
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To: opentalk
Authorities initially attributed the incident to an aerosol can exploding inside a passenger’s checked luggage, which led one local news agency in south Florida to sarcastically report that a “can of hairspray caused a bit of a scare at Miami International Airport.

What liars government employees can be. Who to believe? Not a gummint agent.
18 posted on 12/29/2010 6:57:18 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: opentalk
The bag belongs to a 37-year-old man, said to be a naturalized U.S. citizen, who was scheduled to catch a connecting flight to Jamaica.

Profile, profile, profile. That's the best way to prevent this in my opinion instead of chasing our tails and overwhelming the screeners. That must be one of the most boring jobs in the world. No small wonder that packages get past them.

19 posted on 12/29/2010 6:58:02 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
News is just lies now. We better just assume it’s all lies from this point.

It's been little but lies and distortions for many years now, Where have you been? (I might like to go there.)

20 posted on 12/29/2010 6:58:51 PM PST by Clint Williams (America -- a great idea, didn't last. The only reasonable response to jihad is Crusade.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“... through grandma’s luggage”.

By luggage, I am assuming you mean Grandma’s bra, right?


21 posted on 12/29/2010 6:59:06 PM PST by momtothree
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To: KoRn
How in the hell do Bullet Primers just spontaneously “explode”?

Well, you toss the suitcase they are in from the cargo area of the plane, out onto the tarmac.

22 posted on 12/29/2010 7:00:26 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: opentalk

But they found a woman’s comb in her pocket when they X-rayed her


23 posted on 12/29/2010 7:01:10 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Gal 4:16 asks "Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?")
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To: KoRn
...do Bullet Primers just spontaneously “explode”?

Yeah, all those (billions and billions) of primers contained in cartridges sitting on the shelves of Wal-Mart and thousand of other stores??? Must be like nitro, donnchano.

24 posted on 12/29/2010 7:02:37 PM PST by 386wt
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To: opentalk
TSA Misses Luggage That Explodes After Flight

Hey, give the TSA credit where it is due - they were sure on the ball in thoroughly checking my 14-month old son's sippy cup!

25 posted on 12/29/2010 7:03:00 PM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Charity that is not voluntary is not virtuous.)
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To: null and void

I want a job as a TSA inspector, you don’t have to do anything and get paid for it. My kind of job.


26 posted on 12/29/2010 7:03:38 PM PST by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: opentalk

The Touch Some Ass (TSA) at their finest!


27 posted on 12/29/2010 7:04:32 PM PST by azhenfud (The government is not best which secures life and property-there is a more valuable thing-manhood.)
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To: unixfox

Well if it had been in his underwear, I am sure the TSA would have been all over it


28 posted on 12/29/2010 7:05:24 PM PST by funfan
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To: unixfox

Well if it had been in his underwear, I am sure the TSA would have been all over it


29 posted on 12/29/2010 7:05:30 PM PST by funfan
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To: opentalk
A checked bag on a flight from Boston to Miami contained hundreds of bullet primers that exploded on the tarmac after the plane arrived in south Florida.

100 primers come in a box smaller than a CD jewel case.


30 posted on 12/29/2010 7:06:06 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: opentalk
Well...did they detain the 37 year-old Jamaican "naturalized citizen" or not....or is he down under a palm tree by now studying up on how to become a U.S. president?

Leni

31 posted on 12/29/2010 7:09:41 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: andyk
I think it would be a Barbie suitcase, about the size of your big toe.

≤}B^)

32 posted on 12/29/2010 7:09:48 PM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: opentalk
Any EOD types out there? Seems like primers have to be struck to "go off" and doubtful that one or two primers would cause others to spark. I'll bet you could take a box of 500 and hit it with a hammer and it would cause minimal problems if they all went off.

Primers and small arms ammunition are a Class C, DOT, transportable device. Hunters are allowed to pack ammunition in limited quantities in their checked baggage, and do so all the time, so I don't really see what the problem is.

Guns are permitted in a lockable transport container and carried on aircraft all the time. Did the citizen forget to declare he had primers in his bag?

33 posted on 12/29/2010 7:10:10 PM PST by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're a Liberal. Stop Global Whining Now.)
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To: KoRn
If it DID happen, something very freak went on here.

Nah. According to the news it's common. Like 'accidental gun firing'.

Seems primers explode, and bullets fire themselves from guns all the time. Many SUV's have run down and killed people, or thrown their riders out to their deaths.

34 posted on 12/29/2010 7:11:01 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: UCANSEE2
I'm not a re-loader, so ....

Do primers come in plastic baggies or something?

35 posted on 12/29/2010 7:12:15 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Yo-Yo
I should have read further down to your post.

The story sounds BS, now.

36 posted on 12/29/2010 7:14:01 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: opentalk

The system worked.

The 37 year old had his gonads searched thoroughly and no suspect items were found.


37 posted on 12/29/2010 7:14:35 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: opentalk

The TSA is stepping all over the Constitution, is a huge waste of money and is totally ineffective. Pistole should be fired and jailed. And take Janet while their at it too. And whatever joker is the head of the FCC, can’t remember his name.


38 posted on 12/29/2010 7:15:57 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: andyk

***I’m picturing a miniature suitcase bulging with hundreds of primers.***

1000 primers will fit in a box 2 inches X 2 inches 6 inches long. Some boxes are smaller.

In a box, if one primer pops the the rest will go off due to what is called “sympathetic detonation”.


39 posted on 12/29/2010 7:17:10 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: opentalk
The bag belongs to a 37-year-old man, said to be a naturalized U.S. citizen, who was scheduled to catch a connecting flight to Jamaica.

One question that hasn't seem to have gotten asked. Jamaica, part of the British Commonwealth, same some of the strictest gun control laws around.

What was he doing bringing PRIMERS to JAMAICA?

40 posted on 12/29/2010 7:18:54 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: UCANSEE2
"Well, you toss the suitcase they are in from the cargo area of the plane, out onto the tarmac."

You'd have to drop that luggage 1,000,000 times from the plane, and a primer STILL probably wouldn't discharge. It takes a PRECISE strike with pressure from a sharpened object(such as a firing pin) in just the right spot to make a primer go bang. That's why I find this story to be such BS.

41 posted on 12/29/2010 7:19:06 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Harley

—my tagline applies—


42 posted on 12/29/2010 7:19:56 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: RedMDer

Yes! Absolutely! Profiling overwhelmingly the best system above all others!
It saves time, cost and lives! (which may not be their highest priority)


43 posted on 12/29/2010 7:20:47 PM PST by LetMarch (If a man knows the right way to live, and does not live it, there is no greater coward. (Anonymous)
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To: PapaBear3625
I don't know much about guns, but seems there is more to the story.
44 posted on 12/29/2010 7:25:11 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk
Expanding on what I said earlier, the State Dept advisory on Jamaica has
The Department of State warns U.S. citizens against taking any type of firearm or ammunition into Jamaica without authorization from the Jamaican Ministry of National Security. Entering Jamaica with a firearm or even a single round of ammunition is a serious crime that can result in a long prison sentence.

What was he doing transporting primers to Jamaica?

Did he expect to get through Jamaica customs without arrest?
45 posted on 12/29/2010 7:28:14 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: KoRn
The ONLY way I can imagine this happening is if the bozo decided to take ALL the primers in a box of 1000 (not that big a box - about the size of an ordinary brick but a little longer and MUCH lighter) out of their protective slipcases and 'save space' by dumping them all in a plastic bag. And decided to pack them in his suitcase next to something hard and pointy, like a bag of nails. And a baggage handler then decided to punt the suitcase out of the cargo hold onto the apron.

I think it's much more likely that we're being lied to, and this was a bomb that didn't go off. But the powergrabbers at TSA will use it as an excuse to ban primers. Certainly for transport, from private sale if they think they can get away with it. Helps get rid of the Second Amendment types, dontcha know.

46 posted on 12/29/2010 7:34:34 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Clint Williams

It bears repeating, as if new, many times. Judging by comments on FR, most people live there.


47 posted on 12/29/2010 7:38:40 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (Capitol Hill operator 866-727-4894 toll free. Just say which Representative/Senator you want to spea)
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To: Erasmus
Here's the insidious suitcase in question:


48 posted on 12/29/2010 7:46:46 PM PST by andyk (Hi, my name's Andy, and I am a BF 1942 / Desert Combat junkie.)
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To: knarf
"Do primers come in plastic baggies or something? "

No, they actually come in a plastic tray and are individually separated by a plastic grid. Each tray is packed into a cardboard box that is a single layer... much like a box of ammunition in an egg-crate type cage.

Primers are relatively difficult to pop, especially by accident. I'm not saying it's impossible, but seems to me another source most likely caused it such as heat. Even if you slammed the back side of a tray of primers with a hammer, only the ones you crushed will go off, I can't imagine how it would have caused a chain reaction... they aren't blasting caps. You have to smack them in just the right spot or crush them. Myself and a buddy once did a week of detention at school for stomping on them in the parking lot with our boot heels (story for another time).

Who's to say if they were in the original packaging, I don't know. Story doesn't really add up though. Maybe only a few of them actually detonated and the press is smokin it up as usual...

49 posted on 12/29/2010 8:14:55 PM PST by FunkyZero ("It's not about duck hunting !")
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To: opentalk; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2648737/posts

Related thread, has answers to some questions here plus name of perp.

My guess is that he intended to smuggle primers and a reloading press into Jamaica.


50 posted on 12/29/2010 8:17:19 PM PST by DBrow
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