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Muslim Inbreeding: Impacts on intelligence, sanity, health and society .
Right Side News ^ | 11 August 2010 | Nicolai Sennels

Posted on 12/30/2010 12:48:38 PM PST by New Jersey Realist

Massive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1.400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool. The consequences of intermarriage between first cousins often have serious impact on the offspring's intelligence, sanity, health and on their surroundings

The most famous example of inbreeding is in ancient Egypt, where several Pharaonic dynasties collapsed after a couple of hundred years. In order to keep wealth and power within the family, the Pharaohs often married their own sister or half-sister and after a handful of generations the offspring were mentally and physically unfit to rule.

Another historical example is the royal houses of Europe where royal families often married among each other because tradition did not allow them to marry people of non-royal class.

The high amount of mentally retarded and handicapped royalties throughout European history shows the unhealthy consequences of this practice. Luckily, the royal families have now allowed themselves to marry for love and not just for status.

The Muslim culture still practices inbreeding and has been doing so for longer than any Egyptian dynasty. This practice also predates the world's oldest monarchy (the Danish) by 300 years.

A rough estimate shows that

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1 posted on 12/30/2010 12:48:41 PM PST by New Jersey Realist
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To: New Jersey Realist

And thus explains Mohammed. He must have married himself....after marrying countless little girls. Funny thing is that he’s still screwing his people.


2 posted on 12/30/2010 12:50:05 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: New Jersey Realist

Now isn’t this interesting?

Are there laws now against marrying first cousins or closer in predominantly Islamic countries or does this practice continue? Anyone know?


3 posted on 12/30/2010 12:52:00 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que AP: It's the "GROUND ZERO MOSQUE")
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To: A_Former_Democrat

This is correct. Inbreeding is a real problem


4 posted on 12/30/2010 12:53:26 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: New Jersey Realist

Well, on the bright side, all the inbreeding gives the Palestinians plenty of disabled children to use as human bombs.


5 posted on 12/30/2010 12:53:39 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Never mind. That’s what I get for not reading the article first lol.


6 posted on 12/30/2010 12:53:47 PM PST by A_Former_Democrat (NO MOS-que AP: It's the "GROUND ZERO MOSQUE")
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To: A_Former_Democrat

No. Just the opposite. And Muslims in England and the U.S. often send their children back to their home countries to marry their cousins and bring them back here.

First cousins on the male side are preferred. It was intended to keep tribes together.


7 posted on 12/30/2010 12:55:07 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: New Jersey Realist

According to the Book of Jubilee, it was okay.


8 posted on 12/30/2010 12:55:45 PM PST by Perdogg (What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
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To: New Jersey Realist

No wonder England is so screwed up. They have Prince Charley and a large musmlim population.


9 posted on 12/30/2010 12:56:51 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Hard to believe any laws prohibit this. My understanding is that it is not only permitted, but encouraged—if not expected.


10 posted on 12/30/2010 12:57:34 PM PST by freespirited (This tagline dedicated to the memory of John Armor, a/k/a Congressman Billybob.)
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To: New Jersey Realist; Chode; Islaminaction

Islam is full of retards, who knew?


11 posted on 12/30/2010 1:00:07 PM PST by Wile E Coyote Genius (IQ 207....more than all Democrats combined)
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To: A_Former_Democrat

When I lived in Egypt it was still common for 2nd and 3rd cousins to marry....but I don’t know how to quantify that (I’ve never studied the sociology behind it). 1st cousin marriages were not as common.....but it still happened nonetheless.

I left in 1989.


12 posted on 12/30/2010 1:01:04 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: New Jersey Realist
The largest European Royal Family ~ the Capetians and other descendants of Hugh Capet, had to maintain 4 degrees of consanguinity and could not marry within that margin.

Currently that is a far higher separation than you'll find in America in any group.

I am not aware of European royals having a high incidence of disability ~ maybe the Dutch Royals, but that's because they're stupid.

13 posted on 12/30/2010 1:03:42 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: New Jersey Realist

Happens to the beautiful people in a high school, too. Jocks, cheerleaders and student body officers inbreed, and pretty soon you’ve got to assemble 20 in a room to get a cumulative IQ over 100.


14 posted on 12/30/2010 1:05:17 PM PST by lurk
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To: New Jersey Realist

Question for all you Islamic scholars trolling FR: if a muslim man divorces his wife is she still his sister?


15 posted on 12/30/2010 1:05:37 PM PST by thethirddegree
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To: New Jersey Realist

How about FDR?


16 posted on 12/30/2010 1:08:56 PM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: muawiyah

Revealed: the inbreeding that ruined the Hapsburgs

Dynasty that dominated Europe for more than 500 years was undone by incest, study finds

By Steve Connor

Wednesday, 15 April 2009

The Hapsburg dynasty was one of the most important and influential royal families in Europe dating back more than 500 years and producing rulers in Austria, Hungary, Belgium, the Netherlands and the German empire. Then, in 1700, it suffered a sudden demise of its Spanish branch. Now scientists believe they have come up with a definitive explanation.

A study of the extended family tree
of the House of Hapsburg has found that the last Spanish Hapsburg king, Charles II, was the offspring of a marriage that was almost as genetically inbred as an incestuous relationship between a brother and sister or parent and child.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/revealed-the-inbreeding-that-ruined-the-hapsburgs-1668857.html


17 posted on 12/30/2010 1:12:35 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Salvavida

It has been pointed out that this was common amongst British only a generation ago. If not an immediate cousin, they married “the boy next-door,” which had the same effects because of the many intertwined links.


18 posted on 12/30/2010 1:13:52 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Cicero
First cousins on the male side are preferred. It was intended to keep tribes together.

It's also related to the Islamic practice of mahr (bride-price), where the husband is supposed to pay a dowry to get his wife. If he marries his first cousin on his father's side, the money stays within the family.

You're also right about tribal cohesion. A wife from another tribe might produce divided loyalty in her kids.

19 posted on 12/30/2010 1:18:46 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: New Jersey Realist
Massive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1.400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool.

File under "Ya think?"


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

20 posted on 12/30/2010 1:19:00 PM PST by The Comedian (Government: Saving people from freedom since time immemorial.)
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To: Cicero

As it points out, Muslims in the UK have about half the rate as in their mother country—which is about equivalent to Christan Arabs (half that of corresponding Muslim Arabs).


21 posted on 12/30/2010 1:20:14 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

What Genesis 16:12 says of Ishmael and his descendants.

New International Version

He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers.”

God of Abraham is always correct!


22 posted on 12/30/2010 1:21:23 PM PST by diverteach (If I find liberals in heaven after my death.....I WILL BE PISSED!!!)
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To: New Jersey Realist

This line of research will go down the memory hole once the Fatwas start flying.


23 posted on 12/30/2010 1:21:58 PM PST by dogcaller
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To: New Jersey Realist

Do they think breeding with goats will solve this problem?


24 posted on 12/30/2010 1:22:29 PM PST by hifidelity
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To: New Jersey Realist

I wonder if that is why they have such bad BO? LOL!!


25 posted on 12/30/2010 1:26:13 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: New Jersey Realist
Massive inbreeding within the Muslim culture during the last 1.400 years may have done catastrophic damage to their gene pool.

Well, DUH!

:-)

26 posted on 12/30/2010 1:26:20 PM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: muawiyah

In the European families, you had the two wings of the Hapsburgs: the Spanish and Austrian. The Spanish Hapsburgs intermarried...a lot. They eventually died out, with the last Spanish Hapsburg king dying in 1700 or so. Which led to the “War of Spanish Succession” when the French Bourbon king tried to place a relative on the Spanish throne. By the way, the last couple of Spanish kings were drooling idiots.

The Austrian Hapsburgs fared somewhat better, but not all that great. They very much frowned on marriage outside of their tribal clique, but to my knowledge kept the 1st and 2nd cousins apart.

Since Queen Victoria had a gob of kids and married them off to everybody but the Hapsburgs, and then those kids all had their kids marry each other, it’s no surprise the Battenburgs (now Windsors) had genetic problems. Czar Nicholas II married his 1st cousin, Alexandra of Hesse, a union that resulted in a hemophiliac male heir. Nicholas II was 1st cousin to King George V, grandfather of Elizabeth II. When they dug up the remains of Nicholas’ family, they sought as many close family members as they could for samples to confirm identity through DNA. Of course, they hit up the Windsors. You’d think they’d use Queen Elizabeth, since she was a direct descendant of a 1st cousin. Nope; her husband, Prince Phillip was used since he was considered a closer match.

Land and money is the only difference between Prince Charles and your stereotypical inhabitant of Appalachia.


27 posted on 12/30/2010 1:27:44 PM PST by henkster (A broken government does not merit full faith and credit.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Quick, call Katie Couric. She wants a muslim Cosby Show.


28 posted on 12/30/2010 1:28:31 PM PST by maggief
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To: hifidelity

She’s my goat! ( smack) My sister!! ( smack) My goat! ( smack) My sister!! ( smack)
SHE’S MY GOAT AND MY SISTER!!


29 posted on 12/30/2010 1:32:43 PM PST by clbiel (Hey Islam! Satan's on the line- says he's not giving back your religion without a fight.)
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To: diverteach
It's interesting that after Darwin wrote "marriage between near relations is likewise in some way injurious," he took so much heat from the Church, he took it out of later editions!

The Church of England still permits first-cousin marriage; the Roman Catholic Church also will allow it.

30 posted on 12/30/2010 1:32:43 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: henkster

The additional birth-defect risk is said to be about that for a 40-year-old mother...about 2%.


31 posted on 12/30/2010 1:35:11 PM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: maggief

Quick, call Katie Couric. She wants a muslim Cosby Show.


Yeah, we could call it, “Maried My Children.” Next logical step, eh?


32 posted on 12/30/2010 1:36:49 PM PST by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: lurk

“Happens to the beautiful people in a high school, too. Jocks, cheerleaders and student body officers inbreed, and pretty soon you’ve got to assemble 20 in a room to get a cumulative IQ over 100.”

Actually, many studies have shown that HS athletes have markedly higher average IQs (and better grades in like classes and better SAT scores) compared to the student body overall.

College, this is not the case.


33 posted on 12/30/2010 1:38:09 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: muawiyah

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/revealed-the-inbreeding-that-ruined-the-hapsburgs-1668857.html


34 posted on 12/30/2010 1:38:36 PM PST by americanophile
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To: henkster
The real issue here are the dangerous or harmful auto-somal recessives.

With the knowledge we have today we could AVOID them and marry only our first cousins and sisters who do not have them in their DNA.

The great danger, then, would be "strangers" who have them but we don't know about them!

But my comment was about the Bourbonnaise, mostly, who tried to marry AWAY from the mainline ~ THEY STARTED OUT with a couple of dwarves and some idiots.

Later generations were marrying Magyars! Somebody figured out the rules for them.

I do know of a case where a French Bourbon descendant showed up in Sweden and the first thing the king did was give him one of his illegitimate daughters as a wife. The king himself had a Great Grandmother who was also a Bourbon descendant. It was 4 generations of separation, within the family, but the Swedes had this thing about just grabbing women from the village, so no doubt there was a lot of genetic variation in this pairing.

Some of these people were pretty earthy and knew intimately about how you raised pigs, and sometimes you have to breed out or you get thin pigs.

35 posted on 12/30/2010 1:39:11 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Marrying first cousins is perfectly legal in most countries. A one off marriage between first cousins isn’t usually a problem though with about the same incidence of birth defects amongst offspring as those between non-related couples. However, when it is when it is done generation after generation, genetic weaknesses start to show and as it progresses down the generations, inbreeding becomes a serious problem. A culture that allows cousin marriage is OK, a culture that virtually compels cousin marriage is inviting serious health problems....


36 posted on 12/30/2010 1:42:27 PM PST by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: americanophile; Islaminaction; Kolokotronis; annalex; MahatmaGandu; skeeter; NYer; La Lydia; ...
Devastating report on Islamic culture.


37 posted on 12/30/2010 1:44:44 PM PST by americanophile
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To: New Jersey Realist

Amazing how fast this story makes it way around the internet.

I have already received this story via email from two different parties. One person is located in California and the other person is from England.


38 posted on 12/30/2010 1:46:29 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: New Jersey Realist

My Great-great-great grandfather married his cousin - tat is wghyiummmmnniinngg dumbbb...waiit i can sppelling thes wirds


39 posted on 12/30/2010 1:49:08 PM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius

A friend who has just returned from a civilian position in Afghanistan reported that those people are not very bright and they have remarkably poor vision.

She said the vision problem is due to an almost total lack of prenatal care. On top of that, most will not or do not wear glasses.


40 posted on 12/30/2010 2:07:42 PM PST by ruesrose (It's possible to be clueless without being blonde.)
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To: Gondring

“first cousin marriage” - Yuk! - My Daddy was adamant that there wasn’t going to be even any marrying of a 4th cousin once removed. Not that I intended to anyway or had an interest that way. Some things are just yukky!


41 posted on 12/30/2010 2:18:43 PM PST by Twinkie (Awake and strengthen that which remains . . . . . . . . Revelation 3)
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To: dogcaller

“I Fatwah in your general Di-rection!”


42 posted on 12/30/2010 2:30:45 PM PST by Humble Servant
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To: New Jersey Realist

This has been well understood for a long time by those who have studied the Muzzies and the Royals but it is rarely openly addressed (in either case).

I think Mohammad Atta and a few of the 9/11 terrorists were products of inbreeding. The mental defect shows up in that dead-eyed look they seem to have—I think. You also see it in the those female teachers here in the USA who have affairs with 14-year old boys. I bet some of them are products of inbreeding.


43 posted on 12/30/2010 2:31:11 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: clbiel

—It’s a dessert wax AND a floor topping!


44 posted on 12/30/2010 2:33:32 PM PST by Humble Servant
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To: Wile E Coyote Genius
no wonder they still live in the stone age...
45 posted on 12/30/2010 2:51:47 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: muawiyah

CANTERBURY
Then hear me, gracious sovereign, and you peers,
That owe yourselves, your lives and services
To this imperial throne. There is no bar
To make against your highness’ claim to France
But this, which they produce from Pharamond,
‘In terram Salicam mulieres ne succedant:’
‘No woman shall succeed in Salique land:’
Which Salique land the French unjustly gloze
To be the realm of France, and Pharamond
The founder of this law and female bar.
Yet their own authors faithfully affirm
That the land Salique is in Germany,
Between the floods of Sala and of Elbe;
Where Charles the Great, having subdued the Saxons,
There left behind and settled certain French;
Who, holding in disdain the German women
For some dishonest manners of their life,
Establish’d then this law; to wit, no female
Should be inheritrix in Salique land:
Which Salique, as I said, ‘twixt Elbe and Sala,
Is at this day in Germany call’d Meisen.
Then doth it well appear that Salique law
Was not devised for the realm of France:
Nor did the French possess the Salique land
Until four hundred one and twenty years
After defunction of King Pharamond,
Idly supposed the founder of this law;
Who died within the year of our redemption
Four hundred twenty-six; and Charles the Great
Subdued the Saxons, and did seat the French
Beyond the river Sala, in the year
Eight hundred five. Besides, their writers say,
King Pepin, which deposed Childeric,
Did, as heir general, being descended
Of Blithild, which was daughter to King Clothair,
Make claim and title to the crown of France.
Hugh Capet also, who usurped the crown
Of Charles the duke of Lorraine, sole heir male
Of the true line and stock of Charles the Great,
To find his title with some shows of truth,
‘Through, in pure truth, it was corrupt and naught,
Convey’d himself as heir to the Lady Lingare,
Daughter to Charlemain, who was the son
To Lewis the emperor, and Lewis the son
Of Charles the Great. Also King Lewis the Tenth,
Who was sole heir to the usurper Capet,
Could not keep quiet in his conscience,
Wearing the crown of France, till satisfied
That fair Queen Isabel, his grandmother,
Was lineal of the Lady Ermengare,
Daughter to Charles the foresaid duke of Lorraine:
By the which marriage the line of Charles the Great
Was re-united to the crown of France.
So that, as clear as is the summer’s sun.
King Pepin’s title and Hugh Capet’s claim,
King Lewis his satisfaction, all appear
To hold in right and title of the female:
So do the kings of France unto this day;
Howbeit they would hold up this Salique law
To bar your highness claiming from the female,
And rather choose to hide them in a net
Than amply to imbar their crooked titles
Usurp’d from you and your progenitors.

...... Shakespeare, Henry V


46 posted on 12/30/2010 2:52:49 PM PST by onedoug
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To: New Jersey Realist
Anybody consider the problem we will have within the black community of interbreeding in the next decade ?

Blacks comprise about 12 % of our population, in smaller cities and communities where there is a 70 % out of wedlock rate for childbirth and "baby mommas" have multiple unknown fathers procreating their child, in second and third generations it will be very easy to see half sister and half brothers procreating since parentage is unknown.

I know, don't tell me, I'm a racist for even thinking it

47 posted on 12/30/2010 2:53:59 PM PST by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: henkster
Czar Nicholas II married his 1st cousin, Alexandra of Hesse, a union that resulted in a hemophiliac male heir. Nicholas II was 1st cousin to King George V, grandfather of Elizabeth II. When they dug up the remains of Nicholas’ family, they sought as many close family members as they could for samples to confirm identity through DNA. Of course, they hit up the Windsors. You’d think they’d use Queen Elizabeth, since she was a direct descendant of a 1st cousin. Nope; her husband, Prince Phillip was used since he was considered a closer match.

Nicholas and Alix were 2nd cousins (N's grandmother and A's grandfather were siblings), not 1st. Prince Philip was used because he's a descendant of Queen Victoria in the female line, as was Alix, and mitochondrial DNA inherits only down the female line. (Queen Elizabeth is of course descended down a male line from Queen Victoria.)

Hemophilia is a sex-linked recessive, so it's not related to inbreeding. Alix could have married an Australian aborigine and still would have had a 50% chance of having a hemophiliac son.

Charles II of Spain was indeed a mess due to inbreeding.

48 posted on 12/30/2010 2:55:49 PM PST by Campion
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To: muawiyah
I am not aware of European royals having a high incidence of disability...

I Couldn't give you specifics but the first thing that popped into my mind was the Hapsburgs.

49 posted on 12/30/2010 3:04:57 PM PST by GATOR NAVY ("The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen." -Dennis Prager)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Married My Children.

Who will play Kelly? Ed O’Neill is already committed to “Modern Family”.


50 posted on 12/30/2010 3:13:17 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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