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To: RikaStrom

This is a good program.

This is not the same as the Tampa initiative. Tampa has “checkpoints” ... which sounds like a blanket stop-and-check with or without probable cause.

As I understand it, Harris County gets a “no refusal” warrant after a sobriety-test refusal on a probable-cause initiated traffic stop. They don’t do tests on every stop or at a checkpoint ... they do tests when probable cause exists.

If probable cause exists, and a warrant is issued, the Constitution is satisfied, and justice is served.

SnakeDoc


16 posted on 12/30/2010 1:05:58 PM PST by SnakeDoctor ("They made it evident to every man [...] that human beings are many, but men are few." -- Herodotus)
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To: SnakeDoctor; Hodar
If probable cause exists, and a warrant is issued, the Constitution is satisfied, and justice is served.

So let's see. If I exercise my 4th and 5th amendment rights to not provide evidence against myself, then that becomes "probable cause." And based on that probable cause, the state can compel me to provide evidence against myself from within my body.

Justice served, circular fascist style!

Seems like with that kind of logic, anything you like can be dispensed with in the Bill of Rights!

21 posted on 12/30/2010 1:20:43 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: SnakeDoctor

The problem is they stop every car. The assumption is your guilty and have to show proof your not...if they think your guilty from that point they force you into this draconian procedure where your rights are trampled and you are not allowed proper representation or due process.

Why are people so willing to give up their invidividual rights to the progressive ideas?


55 posted on 12/30/2010 1:58:22 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: SnakeDoctor

And you don’t think they will have a camera there recording everything, your plate info, etc...etc...

they have no right to invade your private property - your car is no different than your home.


57 posted on 12/30/2010 2:00:34 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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