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Police video shows how drug raid turned deadly [SWAT v. golf club]
sltrib.com ^ | 27 Dec 2010 | Erin Alberty

Posted on 12/30/2010 4:19:27 PM PST by smokingfrog

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To: Dick Bachert

Interesting insights D.B.


41 posted on 12/30/2010 5:17:36 PM PST by smokingfrog (Do all the talking you want, but do what I tell you.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Whatever. Believe what you want. This whole war on drugs is a war on the taxpayer and war on the const.

the only lives on the line are that of the general public subjected to this sadistic mob of psychos we call cops andaw enforcement.


42 posted on 12/30/2010 5:17:44 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: dila813

“In the head and Chest is all I need to know.”

AKA the Double Tap


43 posted on 12/30/2010 5:19:20 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Please change your screen name. You are not a warrior for freedom, but an apologist for the gestapo.


44 posted on 12/30/2010 5:19:50 PM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: SouthTexas

“Not something many meth dealers are going to have.”

Meanwhile our borders remain wide open and tons of the stuff is carted across in trucks driven by mexican drivers.


45 posted on 12/30/2010 5:20:55 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: freedomwarrior998
And the police, executing a lawful warrant, have the right to respond to deadly force with deadly force.

And an innocent homeowner has a right to blow the sh*t out of an armed intruder who has just broken down his door. Right?

46 posted on 12/30/2010 5:25:52 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: freedomwarrior998; exnavy
"You might think you are Rambo, but you are not."

Weird movie characters aside, anything can happen in an armed fight, and vanity is anyone's worst enemy in such scenario. Training is our best friend, and most men don't get much training. Often, those who fantasize that they do are "professional" slobs who watch too much television while relying mainly on popular propaganda to keep them safe from bad boys.

I've been there, done that, found corruption and rolled over on it. Sometimes, the Feds are the best friends that a good cop and his resident neighbors (clean non-cops) can have.

Agreed with exnavy on this one, BTW. Both sides are wrong. No-knock raids are unconstitutional, and the drug problem needs to be dealt with. Men with combat training are more often cleaner, calmer and not so involved in vanities. Those are the men that police agencies should be seeking--not lifelong civilian ragbags "looking for action" (looking for trouble).

The whole issue won't be of much significance after the defaults in local governments anyway. Goodbye hordes of overpaid, wanna-be commandos mis-educated at colleges and universities. Enter a few old-fashioned, "redneck" peace officers with common sense.


47 posted on 12/30/2010 5:29:31 PM PST by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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To: behzinlea
Actually the police don't have rights they have authority allowed them by the government through statutes.

Citizens have the right of self-defense bestowed on them by their Creator.

48 posted on 12/30/2010 5:31:22 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: freedomwarrior998
I may not be Rambo and I am under no illusion that I resemble such a fictional character in any way, but your snarky comment does not take into account that there are millions of well armed ex-servicemen out there (I happen to be one) who are prepared to defend themselves and are quite capable of killing in the heat of the moment if the circumstances dictate.

You think you have a clue what you're talking about. I believe you need to think a little harder about your comment.

49 posted on 12/30/2010 5:40:29 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: smokingfrog

Not any different that what the Nazis, the Stasi, or other countries have done in the past now in the present.


50 posted on 12/30/2010 5:46:29 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Pox

One person vs 400 others = Rambo. It doesn’t happen. That was the comment. The idea that a person with a Glock is going to take out a SWAT team is nothing but fantasy internet bluster. The idea of anyone taking out an entire trained SWAT team who will have the element of surprise, superior firepower and numbers on their side is nothing short of laughable.

However, if you aren’t slinging dope, you shouldn’t have to engage in such flights of fantasy.


51 posted on 12/30/2010 5:48:56 PM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: exnavy

“Both sides are wrong on this one.”

But three Lefts would make it right! Right?...ummmm...right? Oh, never mind!


52 posted on 12/30/2010 5:49:11 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: freedomwarrior998
However, if you aren’t slinging dope, you shouldn’t have to engage in such flights of fantasy.

Cold comfort for the dozens of people who have been shot in botched SWAT raids.

53 posted on 12/30/2010 5:53:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: freedomwarrior998

I replied to your post # 18, which was directed as a reply to post #6, which was not the 400 others post, so you are mistaken with your response, and I stand by my post.


54 posted on 12/30/2010 5:56:34 PM PST by Pox (Good Night. I expect more respect tomorrow.)
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To: nonliberal

“If the pigs are going to break down my door, they better send 401 cops.”

Wouldn’t it be funny to see their children at their daddy’s funeral? But I guess you’ll be in prison awaiting execution.


55 posted on 12/30/2010 6:06:03 PM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: freedomwarrior998

Here’s hoping someone you love is the victim of a ‘legally justified’ shooting.

Best,

L


56 posted on 12/30/2010 6:08:02 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: microgood

Almost without exception all European police forces obeyed and participated in German Nazi round up of their own citizens. In Germany the first Nazi concentration camp was set up and run by the Berlin Chief of Police.

I am unaware, ever, of any organized Police protest, ever, against any good, bad or indifferent law. If the ink, smeared on wood pulp is describe as ‘law’ and orders people into camps, ditches whatever, the police as an institution will obey, even though in fact they are but fellow citizens with powers derived from their fellow citizens.


57 posted on 12/30/2010 6:10:29 PM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: TankerKC

Were the “white crystals” perhaps sodium-bicarbonate?


58 posted on 12/30/2010 6:16:06 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: AppyPappy

Did you watch the video, they executed that guy.

I wonder if he had children?


59 posted on 12/30/2010 6:17:29 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: AppyPappy

Eff ‘em and their daddies too.


60 posted on 12/30/2010 6:18:42 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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