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True Grit Redux
Townhall.com ^ | December 31, 2010 | Suzanne Fields

Posted on 12/31/2010 12:28:39 PM PST by Kaslin

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To: miss marmelstein
If you haven’t read it, folks, buy a used one on Amazon in paperback - with the original primitive-art cover.

I have my copy right here, complete with a blub across the bottom plugging the "SMASH UNIVERSAL MOVIE STARRING JOHN WAYNE AND KATHARINE HEPBURN"... First Printing, February, 1969 (must've been referring to the Signet paperback version).

I pull it off the shelf and read it once every few years, and as time passed, I have increasingly wished they had stuck to the book closer when making the first movie version. I despise Hollywood more than ever and have weaned myself from the habit - even the desire - to go out and see a movie, but I may check out the new version of True Grit anyway.

Mr. niteowl77

41 posted on 12/31/2010 1:39:02 PM PST by niteowl77 (I don't mind them stewing in their own juices, but I do mind them stewing me in their own juices.)
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To: Galatians513

I enjoyed the original True Grit with John Wayne and have watched several times on TV, but I have no intention to watch the remake


42 posted on 12/31/2010 1:39:27 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Popman
Gee, I see saw it yesterday
43 posted on 12/31/2010 1:40:55 PM PST by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: FlyingEagle

Did you see the original with John Wayne and Kim Darby?


44 posted on 12/31/2010 1:43:18 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: miss marmelstein

Great reply


45 posted on 12/31/2010 1:46:49 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: pissant; All

***Might as well try to remake Casablanca. There is no point to it.****

Might as well vent my spleen as to why I HATE the John Wayne verison!

1. Glen Campbell can not act!

2.Kim Darby is too old for her part. She was already playing adult roles in other films.

3.John Wayne ceased acting after THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALENCE. The rest of his westerns were a version of McLintock, a parody of himself. He telegraphed all his moves while playing a funny drunk, not a SOT. He just changed his shirt from red to blue in some of them. his last real acting role was THE SHOOTIST. I wonder how Randolph Scott would have done it! Wayne’s movies before 1962 were great!

4.The outlaws looked like they had just come from the barber. None of the dirt or hair on someone on the lam from Judge Parker’s noose. Not a tick or chigger bite on them!

5.The Country. Oklahoma is NOT the Rocky Mountains or Sierra Nevada mountains. The new TG looks like Oklahoma in winter!

6.The saddles look modern. The new TRUE GRIT has authentic saddles.
7. Did I mention Glen Campbell really really could not act!

There! I feel better after carrying this load around for 41 years!


46 posted on 12/31/2010 1:48:09 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: Kaslin

Being a John Wayne fanatic, I was upset when I first learned of this remake. With great trepidation I interrupted our Hawaii vacation and took my 20 yr old son to see it Wednesday. I left with only four words in my brain:

1-BestMovieOfTheYearOscar

2-BestActorOscar

3-BestSupportingActressOscar

4-BestScriptEver

(Of course I’m not holding my breath for Hollywood to give it any awards.)

The new True Grit is sufficiently different (and “updated”) that the original True Grit is not diminished in any way. Its just that they are both exxxxxcellent movies.


47 posted on 12/31/2010 1:49:43 PM PST by nevergiveup (When in Rome, speak Roman.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

OK, I need to deal with this.

First: Glen Campbell cannot act. True. But at this time all John Wayne/Henry Hathaway/John Ford films featured a pop star as co-star. It was a convention. It certainly doesn’t upset one of my favorite Westerns: Rio Bravo. Get used to it.

2. Kim Darby is not too old. In acting, most actresses MUST be older to play younger parts. The problem with Ms. Darby is that she wasn’t strong enough - or charismatic enough - to stand up against actors like Wayne, Strother Martin, etc. She just didn’t have the talent to overcome these great, great actors. But in her quieter scenes, she’s not half bad.

John Wayne never ceased acting. You are buying into a cliche. He was a wonderful actor who died with his boots on. Educate yourself.

If you think Dennis Hopper just came from a barber, you need to check out an eye doctor.

I know nothing about saddles - but I know what I like.


48 posted on 12/31/2010 1:59:28 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
I ADORE the novel Little Big Man. So different from that dopey movie!

The novel is complex - very hard on the Indians and hard on the white man. Custer is a hero in the novel - something most people would not know since his bravery and military smarts have been denigrated and suppressed.

Have you read its sequel? I have it and am slowly working myself through it.

I too am working my way through the sequel, doesn't quite have that something the original had.

One of my favorite parts of Little Big Man was the Prolog, ...by a Man of Letters. It is a perfect portrait of a modern lib writer when faced with a real man. Too funny. I am also a Western history fanatic and Little Big Man is the most authentic Western novel I have ever read, bar none. I even have some of the authentic source material that it was based upon and Berger nails the Old West like no other writer.

49 posted on 12/31/2010 2:01:56 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: miss marmelstein

did you see the remake?

for a few pennies to netflix, if I have the time, I will chance it.

You forgot Dennis Hopper...

he died good.

(btw Bob Duval was excellent....Jeff Corey perfomance was yeomanlike...and creepy little John Fielder as Lawyer Dagget was....well he played creepy little John Fielder....loved him as Jack the Ripper on a Star Trek episode....)


50 posted on 12/31/2010 2:03:37 PM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: miss marmelstein

Just playing off the stereotype of the illiterate conservative.

I average three books a week and have for 50 years, and liberals who find this out and that I am conservative frequently express shock and confusion.


51 posted on 12/31/2010 2:05:55 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

my favorite Wayne vehicles were in his fading years...True Grit and the Shootist are 2 of my favorites.

but there is one from the 1950s that I consider his best.

The Searchers.


52 posted on 12/31/2010 2:11:17 PM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: Inyo-Mono

The prologue is absolutely hysterical - I remember poor Jack Crabb’s landlady puts on an Indian headdress and romps around. So silly!

I didn’t want to say it - but the sequel is hard-going.


53 posted on 12/31/2010 2:15:01 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Vaquero

Bridges has been a hot mess in his last three movies ~
Men Who Stare at Goats, Crazy Heart & now this.

I liked all the actors in the new True Grit except for Bridges’ long-hair-maggot-infested Rooster Cogburn.

He stinks.


54 posted on 12/31/2010 2:16:53 PM PST by b9 (Palindrome ~ HARASSARAH at your own peril)
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To: miss marmelstein

John Wayne never ceased acting. You are buying into a cliche. He was a wonderful actor who died with his boots on. Educate yourself.

Well educated in John Ford Westerns and RED RIVER, Wayne’s best ever!

His later movies became “potboilers”. I saw them all at the theater when they came out. No acting required, just jack up the horse and drive a new script under it, or a revamped script for RIO BRAVO-EL DORADO-RIO LOBO.

You want a movie with the REAL old west falvor? See Charlton Heston in WILL PENNY or Lee Marvin in MONTE WALSH.

When RIO LOBO first opened in Tulsa, OK (At the Garnett Theater) I saw people get up and leave half way through as this was just a remake of RIO BRAVO-EL DORADO with a civil war lead in.


55 posted on 12/31/2010 2:19:22 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: Sherman Logan

Sorry! I missed the irony.


56 posted on 12/31/2010 2:21:57 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Kaslin
“Old codgers who loved the 1969 movie for the character of Rooster Cogburn as portrayed by John Wayne will be disappointed by Jeff Bridges as Rooster.”

I find this “Old Codgers” statement highly insulting. I am 56 and can still do whatever I did when I was 21... most of it better. Jeff Bridges is a good actor... he is neither great nor is he an icon such as John Wayne. Bridges can no more fill the Duke's shoes as Rooster Cogburn, than Angelina Jolie could fill the shoes of Vivian Leigh (in her reprised role as Scarlett O'Hara). The Big Lebowski does the Duke... not in any reality on this plane.

LLS

57 posted on 12/31/2010 2:21:58 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than a dim to enter the kingdom of GOD!)
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To: Vaquero

***but there is one from the 1950s that I consider his best.

The Searchers.***

One of John Wayne’s best along with HONDO! Another good one by John Ford is TWO RODE TOGETHER with Jimmy Stewart.


58 posted on 12/31/2010 2:23:47 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Libbie! We just disagreed on another post (political, of course!) but we are in complete alignment on this. I’m 56, too. Hardly an “old codger.”


59 posted on 12/31/2010 2:25:32 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: pissant

I thought it was better than the original. Now I’ll probably go to hell for dissing the Duke. :-)


60 posted on 12/31/2010 2:26:18 PM PST by glorgau
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