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America’s Pensionless Future ("the largest threat to the U.S. economy.”)
The Trumpet ^ | 1/04/11 | Robert Morley

Posted on 01/04/2011 6:16:33 PM PST by Libloather

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To: The Comedian

Sounds like wisdom, to me.


21 posted on 01/04/2011 8:09:28 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Libloather

What is it called when you hand the keys to the local government and say “here it’s yours.”

Normally, losing your property due to non-payment of property taxes keeps people in line. But when they have to jack up the rates to pay obligations (like pensions), maybe a lot of people do the arithmetic and figure it is cheaper to walk away.

Let’s say you owned your house free and clear. They decide to increase your property taxes significantly. You decide it’s no longer worth it. Can you legally demolish the house, strip anything valuable, and leave them an empty lot?


22 posted on 01/04/2011 8:20:21 PM PST by vmpolesov
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To: Cowgirl

“My husband took his retirement at 55 and took the penalty. He put it all in silver and it went up 30% since then. He has other projects that will make a living and we used some of the money for that. That more than paid the penalty.”

I am thinking about doing the same next year,God Willing and continued Good luck to you.


23 posted on 01/04/2011 8:21:30 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Libloather
One 66–year-old retired fire captain said he is going back to work as a security guard so he can make his mortgage payments. Charities are helping some, but not everyone. The retired fire marshal, too young to collect social security and unable to find work, was found dead in his home with all the utilities turned off.

Huh?

24 posted on 01/04/2011 8:39:05 PM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Libloather
Take Illinois.

...please.

Thank you, I'm here all weekend.

25 posted on 01/04/2011 8:49:28 PM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yes, the government plays it’s part.

But so does the Federal Reserve and it’s fractional banking system.

Here is a link to a youtube that is about 29 minutes long that deconstructs the housing collapse, with a quick history of money. It is actually pretty funny!

The American Dream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kv2oCXbW4r0&feature=player_embedded


26 posted on 01/04/2011 8:50:03 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: Libloather
Did they cut off the welfare, "free" medical care, Section 8 housing, ADC, and food stamps to the drones in Prichard as well?

I didn't think so. At least the people who had pensions they no longer get did some work to earn them.

27 posted on 01/04/2011 9:02:26 PM PST by Gritty (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: Gritty
At least the people who had pensions they no longer get did some work to earn them.

Just not nearly enough work to justify what they are now collecting. Theft by swindle, with public employee unions and dem pols as the primary perps.

28 posted on 01/04/2011 9:11:07 PM PST by Minn
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To: Minn
its the govt pensions....all of them....plus all their medical covering them and their dependents...

my fear is that sure, we'll get the house paid off but then the property tax will force us to sell, or desert.....

a lifetime of work and paying taxes....for what?

29 posted on 01/04/2011 10:37:26 PM PST by cherry
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To: cherry
my fear is that sure, we'll get the house paid off but then the property tax will force us to sell, or desert.....

For years, I've called it what it really is: "lot rent." They have impoverished us into perpetuity.

30 posted on 01/04/2011 10:45:52 PM PST by garandgal
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To: Cheetahcat

the sad thing is we need to kiss that money goodbye. it’s gone, not ours. They are so over their heads in debt they can’t pay us back no matter what.


31 posted on 01/05/2011 1:02:51 AM PST by Cronos (Kto jestem? Nie wiem! Ale moj Bog wie!)
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To: TruthConquers

awesome!


32 posted on 01/05/2011 1:52:00 AM PST by Cronos (Kto jestem? Nie wiem! Ale moj Bog wie!)
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To: vmpolesov

You probably could! I have inherited land with a barn, garage and other old buildings that are heavily taxed for their value. So, we plan to demolish them this year and decrease our taxes. My cousin is leasing the house but as soon as he leaves that is going too.

Check with the taxing authority before doing anything but I think it’s the same thing as would happen if your home caught fire and was completely destroyed. You get to decrease the value of the improvement.

We did the right thing by paying off our home. Taxes are out of sight as it cost us $725/month in school, county, ESD, and dam maintenance! That would be close to my whole Social Security check, haa!


33 posted on 01/05/2011 3:13:22 AM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: blam

I believe you’re somewhat near by. Any comments?


34 posted on 01/05/2011 3:24:53 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Minn

That thought has certainly crossed my mind.


35 posted on 01/05/2011 3:26:09 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est.)
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To: Libloather
You just can’t get water from a dry rock.

Where's Moses when you need him?

36 posted on 01/05/2011 5:06:44 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion)
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To: Libloather

It would probably be cheaper for the government to return all of what people paid into SS all these years and allow people to invest it elsewhere.

well, of course they have spent it all and then some, but it couldn’t get much worse than it is now.

I am just musing.


37 posted on 01/05/2011 5:15:34 AM PST by dforest
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To: indylindy
Money really, really, really is JUST PAPER PRINTED BY THE GOVERNMENT.

Super-hyper-turbo-fuel-injected mega-inflation, here we come. And I am understating it, at that...

38 posted on 01/05/2011 5:43:33 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: Libloather

People are definitely going to not receive their money. Here’s an idea. Instead of taking it away from the people who worked for it, how about stop giving it to the people who do not!!!! No one under age 65 should receive a dime from the government. PERIOD.


39 posted on 01/05/2011 5:44:08 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (Congress doesn't care a damn about "we the people")
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To: Libloather

I’ve taken a “loan” out on my 401K and pay off a bill and it also avoids the tax penalty. Of course I can’t borrow more than 1/2 of the total fund (there isn’t much there anyway)


40 posted on 01/05/2011 6:49:35 AM PST by GYPSY286 (Politicians must USE their heads or Americans will LOSE their heads.)
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