Actually, I think that has been the problem all along...
I thnk Obama is a bit older than he portrays, by about 2 to 3 years. I think he was actually born in the “territory of hawaii” before it was a state.
His Myspace page has shown his age at 50 to years ago....why? Was it just a mistake? It has now been corrected.
If you were born in Hawaii before it was a state, would you be eligible to run for President?
Was Barry Goldwater, born in the Arizona Territory, eligible to run in 1964?
Yes, Barry Goldwater ran for President in 1964 and he was born in Arizona when it was a territory, before it became a state. Nobody made an issue of it then, because everyone agreed he was a NBC.
Yes, Barry Goldwater ran for President in 1964 and he was born in Arizona when it was a territory, before it became a state. Nobody made an issue of it then, because everyone agreed he was a NBC.
That would mean that he was born in Hawaii while his mother was still attending high school in Washington State.
You asked
“If you were born in Hawaii before it was a state, would you be eligible to run for President?”
Only if both your parents were American citizens.
Odumbo’s aren’t no matter when he was born or where.
Even if he was born in Hi in Aug 1961 his father was not a US Citizen so he is not natural born.
All the dems and media just skip right over that.
additionally there is a serious concern that he was legally aopted by Soetoro, which in fact he would have had to have been adopted to be considered Lolo’s son for school in Indonesia
That means his birth certificate was changed, by law, in Hi to reflect that soetoro was his father.
From that change 0dumbo could have attended schools in USA as a foreign studentAND 0dumbo could have used an Indonesian passport to visit Pakistan in 81 and again in 83
I hope this stays an issue
“If you were born in Hawaii before it was a state, would you be eligible to run for President?”
Perhaps, if your parents were both US citizens. Per Vattel: “THE whole of the countries possessed by a nation and subject to its laws, forms, as we have already said, its territory, and is the common country of all the individuals of the nation.” Thus, a territory is part of the nation and citizens of the territory are citizens of the nation. However, both parents must be citizens for the child to be a natural born citizen.
Again, per Vattel: “The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.” Because Obama was born of a foreign father, if he was born in Hawaii the US is merely his place of birth, not his country.