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Wakefield's paper linking MMR vaccine and autism a fraud
LA Times ^ | January 5, 2011 | By Thomas H. Maugh II, Los Angeles Times

Posted on 01/05/2011 8:25:06 PM PST by Melissa 24

Dr. Andrew Wakefield's 1998 report in the journal Lancet purporting to show a link between autism and the vaccine for measles, mumps and rubella "was based not on bad science but on a deliberate fraud," says Dr. Fiona Godlee, editor in chief of BMJ, formerly the British Medical Journal, in an editorial published Tuesday. The editorial accompanies the first of three reports by British investigative journalist Brian Deer that document how Wakefield manipulated data in his attempts to prove something that he "knew" before he started his research. Most of the information in the reports has been published previously, but the recent publication of the General Medical Council's 6-million-word transcript of the hearing in which Wakefield's license to practice medicine in Britain was revoked allowed the editors of BMJ to peer-review Deer's reports and confirm the extensive falsifications in the original Lancet paper.

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"The sad thing is, his work has influenced a lot of people," said Dr. Peter Hotez of the Sabin Vaccine Institute in New York City. "If you do a Google search of vaccines, so much of what you see are anti-vaccine sentiments using Wakefield's work as a basis for it, and as a result, children are having vaccines withheld. It's tragic."

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: autism; disorders; doctor; fraud; medical; medicine; mmr; vaccines
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To: TwoSwords

“You’re taking your info from Yahoo or AP”

First I’m really sorry about your daughter.
Second, this is not AP or Yahoo, it’s BMJ :
“The paper was in fact an elaborate fraud”

FRAUD, so do not rely on it for anything.


41 posted on 01/05/2011 9:34:49 PM PST by mewykwistmas
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To: Melissa 24

So - what is causing the apparent dramatic rise in diagnosed Autism? Better identification/diagnosis? Or is there another cause?

Or is Autism another over-diagnosed issue like so many “syndromes”?


42 posted on 01/05/2011 9:36:05 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: hinckley buzzard

thanks


43 posted on 01/05/2011 9:36:48 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: savagesusie

Did your report on the Wakefield study make note of the fact that it was commissioned and funded for planned lawsuits against BIG PHARMA? You should read the actual story in the British Medical Journal regarding Wakefield’s fraud. Some of the parents of the kids in the study are really ticked off that he so misrepresented their conditions both pre- and post-vaccination.

By the way, Ben Franklin and George Washington were patriots who put their lives on the line. John Wayne never actually set foot on the sands of Iwo Jima (though he was good at play-acting).


44 posted on 01/05/2011 9:42:47 PM PST by drjimmy
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To: LibsRJerks

How sad. It is an overload of toxins, I am sure. The body can’t function properly and babies and small children are very susceptible to any toxins and they inject a number of known toxins with every vaccine.

How do we know what is in the vaccine anyway, if batches are made in China? How can we be sure about any of them? Really? Trust government agencies???? Like they saved the dogs and kept melamine out of baby formula. Right....They tell the truth about Global Warming...Scientists don’t lie?????!!!!!!!

There was a doctor once whose son was tested after coming down with Autism—they tested for toxins. He was way off the charts. They started detox and he did improve. It was a long time ago, that I watched the video...I graduated in 2004. I did a paper on Wakefield....his report was on children who developed severe diarrhea—bowel syndrome— after the MMR. The parents pleaded for him to help them. Their children were healthy and happy prior to the shot.

They used to separate those vaccines (until the Autism spike). When they group them, the baby has all these unnatural elements injected all at once to deal with. .....It is cheaper for companies to group them and saves doctors visits...it is not better for the children—THEY KNOW THAT!...it is better for PROFITS.

Boys are more susceptible to mercury poisoning....that mercury goes right to the brain and kills the neurons.....eats them right up....and male hormones speed up the process.

I think the ratio is 3:1 with boys getting Autism more frequently. Mercury poisoning symptoms are identical to the symptoms of Autism. I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. I studied both symptoms. They have lots of information on Mercury poisoning from studies where seafood was contaminated.

Once government started mandating HEP B shots for one day olds...I know that they care NOTHING for the health of babies. NOTHING. If they are damaged, then they really make tons of money off of the children. It is sickening how trusting parents are of GOVERNMENT. Founders warned that it is a necessary EVIL so they have to be contained and stopped from becoming the Nanny.

PS. I am not a doctor but I do have common sense and a distrust of the Marxists in government who control the MSM and all scientific dialogue—their “one-way” to think PC cr*p. Also watched Ben Stein’s movie on the lack of debate on un-PC issues in science...and the destruction of any scientists in Universities that DARED to question Darwin. Again, Darwin’s theory is a theory....why not have debate. AGENDA!!!!!! Marxist Atheist Agenda. Destroy the family (best way is to destroy children).


45 posted on 01/05/2011 9:45:54 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: Melissa 24
<>Because of this fraud some parents chose not to vaccinate their children and children died.

Sounds like a Bill Clinton/DemoRAT line (even if not)...

Bottom line - how many children died as a DIRECT result of not being immunized directly in relation to parents being "deceived" by this possibly debunked "study"?

And what was the death rate for children who WERE immunized?

46 posted on 01/05/2011 9:49:55 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: Spudx7

If a child dies of measles, haemophilus Influenzae B (HIB), diptheria, tetanus, polio or rubella, it’s highly likely to be a death that could have been prevented by vaccination. I’m old enough to have started in medicine before the HIB vaccine, and I saw some young children die of HIB meningitis, and a few almost die from epiglottitis (almost always due to HIB).


47 posted on 01/05/2011 9:50:05 PM PST by sometime lurker
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To: savagesusie

It’s sad that so much credence was given in the first place to a study that involved a grand total of 12 children. Now that it has been proven that Wakefield had a financial motive and that he lied in his Lancet article, it is sadder that some folks still support the fraud.


48 posted on 01/05/2011 9:59:10 PM PST by drjimmy
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To: mewykwistmas

I appreciate your opinion. I would think that your frequenting this site would intimate that you know that institutions have a agenda, even the BMJ. I assure you they are wrong. Sorry that I’m a uneducated American. I’ve seen this and am seeing it first-hand.
All of the organizations and books written about this subject were dreamed up? These people didn’t have anything better to do? Or were they just trying to sell something?
They were trying to retrieve their children’s life or were helping to do so.
You don’t want to know what I think of you.


49 posted on 01/05/2011 10:03:01 PM PST by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: MrShoop

The thimersol vaccines were never destroyed and were and are being used.
Please explain to me why after these vaccinations were used that certain children went autistic. Timing? Just wasn’t noticed beforehand? Must be paranoia. Thanks for your insight.


50 posted on 01/05/2011 10:12:10 PM PST by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: TwoSwords
The thimersol vaccines were never destroyed and were and are being used. Please explain to me why after these vaccinations were used that certain children went autistic. Timing? Just wasn’t noticed beforehand? Must be paranoia. Thanks for your insight.
Please explain to me which vaccines thimerosol is still being used in. Please explain to me why a CDC study involving over 1,000 children (as opposed to 12 in the Wakefield study) found that no matter when a child had been exposed to thimerosal--before birth when the mother had a shot, or when the child itself was vaccinated as a baby or toddler--there was no increase in the risk of any type of autism spectrum disorder. Please explain to me why autism rates continued to rise even after thimerosol was eliminated from routine childhood vaccines. Timing? Just wasn't noticed beforehand?
51 posted on 01/05/2011 10:28:55 PM PST by drjimmy
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To: TwoSwords

Fine. Let me ask something, if mercury is removed from the vaccines, what will happen to autism rates?

It’s a very simple question


52 posted on 01/05/2011 10:31:10 PM PST by mewykwistmas
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To: going hot

Stupid is as stupid does.


53 posted on 01/05/2011 10:32:10 PM PST by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: Melissa 24

Government must protect Big Pharma from skeptics.

Science has proven again and again that injecting babies with mercury is healthy and double-plus good. Any doctor that says otherwise should have his license yanked double-plus fast.


54 posted on 01/05/2011 10:34:25 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: TwoSwords
In the article I sent, it notes that all children's vaccines with thimerosal had expired by January of 2003, so they are not still being used, and haven't been for 8 years.

If thimerosal hasn't been used in vaccines for 10 years, and you think thimerosal causes autism, shouldn't autism rates have dropped dramatically in the last 8-10 years?

I'm sure having an autistic child is very painful, and you are looking for an answer why, but it wasn't vaccines. By vilifying vaccines you are causing other parents and children to suffer because they aren't getting vaccinated, and they are getting sick.

55 posted on 01/05/2011 10:37:14 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: drjimmy

Commissioned and funded?????-—could someone with billions of dollars pay for that commission to read a certain way—or pay for a “planned” result or bribe the “patients” with a measly million.

Kind of like the peer-reviewed articles on Global Warming? You want me to believe what I read in the “British Medical Journal”? Didn’t a “science” magazine publish the hockey stick chart on Global Warming? Who funds that cr*p? Do they have a Marxist agenda for one-world government and communism?

Are you saying that Big Pharma doesn’t have the BILLIONS to bribe and buy results against a measly little doctor that ONLY SAID THERE COULD BE A CAUSAL RELATIONSHIP—what is so HORRIBLE about his opinion? It was what his findings pointed to—and reached by logic and reason and science.

Of course, science does not use logic anymore...They say there is no difference between women and men, that global warming is anthropogenic, that homosexuality is normal and “genetic” instead of a learned behavior, and that children need to have tons of toxins injected into them to be healthy.

John Wayne was male and not ashamed of God’s design. He dripped masculinity which is being weaned out of our boys and vilified by scientists. They are drugging our “healthy” boys by the millions and telling parents it is good to put boys in tutus and competition is bad and guns are evil (as if they are human!)....another “crime” of so-called “science” and the Marxists who have control. Fascists, to say the least, because they forbid debate on all issues. PC is from the cultural Marxists. Ben Stein’s movie, Expelled—No Truth Allowed—pretty much sums up the tolerance of opinions that differ from the Marxist Darwinist exterminators.

Big Pharma allows no debate on the topic. They Alinsky-ite everyone who dares go off their script. That should raise a RED FLAG for any logical person.


56 posted on 01/05/2011 10:38:42 PM PST by savagesusie
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To: mewykwistmas

Well considering that Mercury is about the most lethal thing to the human organism it should be good. Make a point.


57 posted on 01/05/2011 10:41:27 PM PST by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: TwoSwords

see http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

If you doubt their reporting, go ahead and post new links, or find a lawyer to sue them for lying about ingredients.

There’s no more Mercury in vaccines, other than in tetanus and some rare ones that you can safely skip. So why are the autism rates still increasing or at least not decreasing?

The truth is that if wasn’t for the fraudulent study of 12 kids, you would not blame mercury. Why the h*ll people chose to take seriously a 12 people study is beyond me anyway, even if fraud was not involved.


58 posted on 01/05/2011 10:50:54 PM PST by mewykwistmas
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To: MrShoop

As I’ve stated, from what I’ve read, the vaccines that have thimersol are still being used. What you don’t seem to be accepting is that I’ve seen first-hand a child be de-toxed and become normal. Seeing this kid first hand I would’ve said curing him was impossible. If the steps they took to detox him were to remove mercury and he then became normal then there’s mercury, or something else, I guess.
I’me not trying to start a argument. It’s a anecdote to you. To me it’s proof.


59 posted on 01/05/2011 10:51:38 PM PST by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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To: mewykwistmas

I’ll tell my kid, that’s not quite normal, your opinion. When you read up on the subject come back.


60 posted on 01/05/2011 10:55:36 PM PST by TwoSwords (The Lord is a man of war, Exodus 15:3)
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