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Incest and the Degradation of Our Vocabulary
Witherspoon Institute ^ | 1/5/2011 | Matthew J. Franck

Posted on 01/06/2011 5:17:20 AM PST by markomalley

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Once societal norms are broken, as happened with homosexuality, there are no limits.
1 posted on 01/06/2011 5:17:21 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Once societal norms are broken??

They have been for many years in this liberal infested country.


2 posted on 01/06/2011 5:23:11 AM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
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To: markomalley

None. Legal incest and polygamy are next.


3 posted on 01/06/2011 5:24:46 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: markomalley

From Gay Rights to Incest without passing Polygamy and collecting 200 dollars. Cool! I doubt I’ve ever seen a quicker descent into degradation by the chattering class.

I doubt I’ve ever seen a finer example of the moral bankruptcy of today’s “intellectual” class. Apparently “intellectual” actually means “the inability to tell right from wrong”.

Time for the torches and pitchforks.


4 posted on 01/06/2011 5:28:24 AM PST by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: markomalley

I encourage the liberals to commit all the incest they wish

After a few generations of such inbreeding we sane people will triumph as they will be reduced to a sub-race slobbering retards. Inbreeding by nature is a sure way to introduce a world of ills to its practitioners

Liberals are not sane.


5 posted on 01/06/2011 5:31:46 AM PST by Gasshog (going to get what all those libs asked for, but its not what they expected.)
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To: markomalley
Columbia University political scientist and Huffington Post blogger

Not to be confused with normal people, these are liberal pukes to begin with and have no connection with American ideals of family. I expect the full range of deviance from Huffpo and Columbia staff.

6 posted on 01/06/2011 5:33:57 AM PST by existtoexcel
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To: markomalley
Introduce the element of eros, however, and affection is not reinforced; it is destroyed, and replaced by something unnatural to the relationship in its proper sense.
The human good of parent-child love, or of sibling intimacy, is sacrificed to a misplaced passion that cannot achieve its own rightful end.

That's two instances of mighty poor reasoning. "Unnatural" and "rightful" are just dropped there with their unexamined weight. Sure we all know what they mean and we all know why incest is wrong, but don't attempt to prove it logically by such circular reasoning.

7 posted on 01/06/2011 5:38:49 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Gasshog
"I encourage the liberals to commit all the incest they wish...After a few generations of such inbreeding we sane people will triumph as they will be reduced to a sub-race slobbering retards. Inbreeding by nature is a sure way to introduce a world of ills to its practitioners."

I wouldn't be so sure of that. For many centuries, inbreeding was an essential qualification for becoming a monarch.

8 posted on 01/06/2011 5:40:30 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: maddog55
Genetic inbreeding causes birth defects, sometimes resulting in drain bammage... and liberals that are likely to reproduce with other viable idiot mutants.

In one sense this is a good thing; otherwise we would run out of Senators, college professors, and Federal Judges.

9 posted on 01/06/2011 5:44:53 AM PST by mmercier
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To: markomalley

Not trying to hijack this post, but I finally saw it ALL on the Today Show this week. Meredith Viera interviewed a mother and her little boy - who was wearing a pink tutu. She lets her kid dress as a little girl because it makes him “feel calm.” She’s on a campaign to let tiny little children dress in drag if they want to. Sick, sick, sick.


10 posted on 01/06/2011 5:50:05 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Gasshog
Ever watch Idocracy. It is precisely that scenario. The idiots inbreed at fantastic paces and eventually the whole world is covered in morons.
11 posted on 01/06/2011 5:52:43 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Gasshog
I encourage the liberals to commit all the incest they wish

*Shrug* It would only assure they would continue to vote Democrat.

12 posted on 01/06/2011 5:53:58 AM PST by Gorzaloon ("Mother...My Couric itches.")
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To: markomalley
So powerful is the contemporary opinion that “consenting adults” may engage, in private, in any acts that commit no “harm” (narrowly understood in almost purely physical terms) to the parties in question or to others,

That's because the argument is correct. Once one extends the 'harm' argument beyond the physical or financial (force or fraud) one opens the door to government regulating every aspect of our behavior at the point of a gun.

If two adults want to engage in this behavior and no force or fraud is involved there's no reason for the State to criminalize the behavior.

It may be disgusting and worthy of societal opprobrium, and I think it is, but that doesn't mean it should be criminal.

L

13 posted on 01/06/2011 5:55:32 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Inbreeding is an essential quality of Islam. Over half of all Muslims are married to their first cousins. As were their parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and so on for the past 50 or so generations. Now, do you wonder why the only thing that Islam has produced in 1400 years is war and murderers?


14 posted on 01/06/2011 5:55:37 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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>inbreeding was an essential qualification<

I read an interesting book years back (can not remember the tittle) about the Tory remnants remaining in the US after the revolution.

The practice of arranged marriages within families of domestic British descendants still holding land granted by the crown persists to this day.

The book was based on families in Hamilton Massachusetts.

Shocker there.

15 posted on 01/06/2011 5:56:18 AM PST by mmercier
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To: markomalley
Liberalism invites, breeds moral and cultural chaos. And we know what chaos brings. It is the anti-world of amoral degradation and meaningless existence. There is bondage in chaos; and Freedom is suffocated.

Liberals truly fashion a world from the 'dark side' elements. . .they cannot help but avoid, decry. . .smear all that reps a Good, in their presence.

(No effort to small for assault. . .they use the foulest terms to degrade what is good and great - without being able to explain the hate behind their ideas - as easy a tactic as it is cheap. (i.e. the latest example that comes to mind; 'those who have a 'fetish' for our Constitution.") David Letterman positing that John Boehner's emotionalism as a 'drug induced' display. . .They MUST taint all and bring 'good' down to their level; where it is unrecognizable.)

All this stands as a direct assault upon the Moral Order of Life - and the Mind it unfolds from - while tapping into the fraudulent and inauthentic replacement of 'Good' while being authentically it's opposite.

16 posted on 01/06/2011 5:56:24 AM PST by cricket (Osama - NOT made in the USA. . .and Obama, not made in the USA either.. .)
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To: Gasshog
Oops! That's Idiocracy.
17 posted on 01/06/2011 5:57:37 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Seruzawa

Romans 1
24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. 32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.


18 posted on 01/06/2011 5:58:51 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: markomalley

You are correct, markomalley. One cannot rationally support a constitutional right to homosexual sodomy without also supporting a right to incest, polygamy, polyandry, and pretty much whatever else consenting adults want to do. Scalia and others pretty much wrote as much when they dissented in Lawrence v. Texas.

Scalia: “State laws against bigamy, same-sex marriage, adult incest, prostitution, masturbation, adultery, fornication, bestiality, and obscenity are likewise sustainable only in light of Bowers’ validation of laws based on moral choices. Every single one of these laws is called into question by today’s decision dissent.”

Without our country’s Judeo-Christian foundation, there is literally no limit to the depravity that man will do. Want to know what Lot felt like in Sodom? Prepare yourself, because that is coming, my FRiend.


19 posted on 01/06/2011 6:01:54 AM PST by CitizenUSA (Coming soon! DADT...for Christians.)
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To: markomalley
Or do we believe that sexuality, love, and family are things that constitute us, possessing their own natures and purposes and calling us to answer to them?

There's another alternative. Human nature as observed empirically through the millennia. It has definitive characteristics. Among them, social behavior which is absolutely necessary to our existence. Social behavior has structure, roles, rules, imperatives, taboos. And most of them are there precisely because we're so imaginative and free; what is "unnatural" can always be imagined and performed.

You can make the case entirely without religion or the word "moral." In other words you can make the case so that even an atheist or a criminal understands it.

Mind the rules, you should thrive; disregard them, you will likely regret it.

And yet these same liberal elites who think it's ok to commit incest with your daughter, think you need to be formally forbidden to procure her a hamburger over 600 calories.

20 posted on 01/06/2011 6:02:25 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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