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The Royal Forests (by Tom McClintock)
Tom McClintock Congressional website ^ | 7 January 2011 | Tom McClintock

Posted on 01/07/2011 2:59:54 PM PST by CounterCounterCulture

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To: marsh2

A most excellent exposition.

Ic þe þancas do (Thank you in olde English)

http://webspace.ship.edu/cgboer/evolenglish.html


21 posted on 01/07/2011 4:37:39 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: Brilliant

“In the end, we’ll have to sell off all the national forests, the national parks, and the state of Alaska to pay off the debt.”

I think that is the point. Then the great USA will be killed, with no way of getting back up. No energy, No real money, No country.

We’re dead, Jim.


22 posted on 01/07/2011 4:48:29 PM PST by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: CounterCounterCulture; afnamvet; ALOHA RONNIE; ambrose; antceecee; atomic_dog; AVNevis; B4Ranch; ...

PING!
McClintock ping list

Please freepmail me if you want on or off this list.


23 posted on 01/07/2011 5:13:26 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life" --Lindzen)
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To: TruthConquers

“We’re dead, Jim.”

Hardly. The federal government has no business owning property except for the few and necessary buildings it might need.

Land can be sold off with restrictions, such as only American companies and individuals may bid.

Better yet, give the land to the states, where it belongs, and they can sell it.

Selling mining and energy exploration rights is a huge money multiplier.

For every trillion you sell off in energy and minerals, trillions more in economic activity are generated.

If the Chi-Comms object to the land sale, land and resources which our criminals in Washington probably promised as collateral for the loans, let them sail over in their sampans and try to take it.

We can hang the traitors on the western beaches and let the crows pick out their dead eyeballs. It will be a warning for any invader that if you step foot on an American beach, you die.

Behind every blade of grass, there will be a rifleman, not to mention our nuclear armed subs.

Anchors away, boys, there’s a faraway land that needs to be turned into glass.


24 posted on 01/07/2011 5:23:47 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: CounterCounterCulture
Around our family cabin in Colorado, the USFS has spent the last 10 years closing road after road until there is only one road into the valley, and one road out. Last summer they closed that one by not clearing off a small rockslide on the only other road out of the valley.

Since they've not allowed logging, and the area was heavily logged in the 40-50’s, they've basically created a fire trap. The area has been mined extensively since the 1890s so it's not like they are preserving pristine forest or anything..

Our cabin is located in a town site that has been privately held since it was claimed in the 1870's, so they can't push us off that way, but I am sure they wouldn't mind a rip-roaring forest fire that burned the town down.

25 posted on 01/07/2011 5:51:58 PM PST by Red Boots
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To: CounterCounterCulture

My post is the very first at Youtube. All who feel the noose of Big Government should at least leave a post of their feelings there.


26 posted on 01/07/2011 6:31:09 PM PST by Randy Larsen ( BTW, If I offend you! Please let me know, I may want to offend you again!(FR #1690))
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To: Brilliant; TruthConquers
Sorry Boys, but the UN has sovereign control over the national parks and probably the national forests too.

UNESCO World Heritage Centre - Official Site

This is embodied in an international treaty called the Convention concerning the Protection of the World Cultural and Natural Heritage, adopted by UNESCO in 1972.

27 posted on 01/07/2011 6:35:10 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: calcowgirl; SierraWasp

SW must be up to something mighty important to have missed this. Hell, I just assumed he posted it when I initially scanned the title.


28 posted on 01/07/2011 6:41:16 PM PST by Amerigomag
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To: Red Boots

If by chance there is a forest fire and you should be observed doing anything to impede the natural burn areas you can expect to charged with interference of the Fire Control Boss. That means no backfire burning, no dozer clearing work after the fire is started, etc.


29 posted on 01/07/2011 6:42:14 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Senator John Blutarski
"..... this sort of outrage should be the subject of films."

The entire nation should have been outragend. Instead, the vast majority merely shrugged.

The entire nation should be outraged at the surrender of the southern part of Arizona to alien criminals.

The entire nation should be outraged at the runaway spending by the Federal Government.

The entire nation should be outraged at our open Borders.

It is the public apathy that is the most terrifying thing of all.

30 posted on 01/07/2011 8:17:23 PM PST by Savage Beast (Truth : Leftist :: Crucifix : Vampire)
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To: marsh2
foresters often abused their powers for gain

Et tu brute?

31 posted on 01/07/2011 9:40:06 PM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: marsh2
foresters often abused their powers for gain

Et tu brute?

32 posted on 01/07/2011 9:40:21 PM PST by forester (An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: Amerigomag; calcowgirl
Why on earth would you type something as adamant as that? (grin)

Yes, it does my heart good to see this and also to listen to the new chairman of the "Resources Committee" named "Doc" somethingorother on Hew Hewitt, today!

It sounded like he too, was "pickin up what I've been layin down" over the past 20 years!

Gratifying to hear ANY Congressperson preach the gospel according to the Waspman after seemingly squandering 5 of the best years of my life trying to turn back the tide of GANG-GREEN GovernMental EnvironMental Commonism that wishes to herd us all off our personal domains in the west!!!

None of 'em are ever up to any danged good!!!

33 posted on 01/07/2011 10:19:26 PM PST by SierraWasp (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish man's heart to the left. (Eccl 10:2))
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P.S. That new chairman really stressed the need to restore "multiple use" and "greater access", including even commercial access for wise resorce extraction for the benefit or our nation's growing needs. For example, he pointed out how we have some of the largest deposits of uranium, yet we import it for our national defense and that's insanely stupid!!!

I would add that we need to restore Multiple Use Reservoirs like the one that was two thirds complete at Auburn, CA that would have been ideal for the regulation of water levels in Folsom reservoir, one on the most heavily used state recreation ares that keeps running out of water, or must dump winter flows out to sea each winter. Talk about a monument to stupidity!!!

34 posted on 01/07/2011 10:30:04 PM PST by SierraWasp (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish man's heart to the left. (Eccl 10:2))
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To: forester
>>foresters often abused their powers for gain

Et tu brute?

ROFL!

(nice to see ya!)

35 posted on 01/07/2011 11:08:46 PM PST by calcowgirl ("Controlling carbon is a bureaucrat's dream. If you control carbon, you control life" --Lindzen)
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To: calcowgirl

BTTT


36 posted on 01/08/2011 3:02:42 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Savage Beast

“It is the public apathy that is the most terrifying thing of all.”

..... absolutely true words. Step number one is to re-capture the mass media. By and large, the public only gets excited about what they are told to get excited about.


37 posted on 01/08/2011 3:50:32 AM PST by Senator John Blutarski (The progress of government: republic, democracy, technocracy, bureaucracy, plutocracy, kleptocracy,)
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To: Senator John Blutarski
"Step number one is to re-capture the mass media."

Yes. But how?

The mass media is controlled and dominated by people who have something like a mass psychosis. Reality is beyond their comprehension and is repugnant to them. They are under the illusion that they are doing something benevolent, whereas it's the opposite.

They assume (if they think this deeply at all) that they are leading the public, whereas they are misleading the public.

The best thing they could do is inform the public truthfully and let the people themselves decided what to do about it, but truth for its own sake is foreign to their thinking.

Truth has become incomprehensive and repugnant to them.

Fortunately we have alternative sources of information--the internet, Rush, Fox News, etc.--but I don't see how we can wrest the mass media away from these dangerous people or to enlighten them about how wrong and dangerous they are and how dangerously they are misleading the public.

And all of this assumes basic benevolence. There are some in the mass media who intend to mislead the public for selfish and/or malevolent purposes.

38 posted on 01/08/2011 6:20:03 AM PST by Savage Beast (Truth : Leftist :: Crucifix : Vampire)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
"the Crown declared one third of the land area of Southern England to be the royal forest, the exclusive preserve of the monarch, his forestry officials and his favored aristocrats."

You can expect no more sympathy toward ordinary people (that's you and I) and the public interest from the neo-aristocrats in Washington and their forestry officials than the English peasantry got from "the Crown" and its "favored aristocrats".

I've dealt with these people.

They delight in their predatory power over the peasantry!

They get a sadistic thrill from the grasp of power and lording it over other people!

Their supporters take vicarious delight in their predatory powers. They imagine themselves wielding such power!

Could there be anything more predatory, greedy, or sadistically delighting in power than Nancy Pelosi demanding a larger jet--cruising extended family and friends around in it--demanding a more lavish and expensive office suite--vacationing in Hawaii at $10,000-a-night?

39 posted on 01/08/2011 6:48:09 AM PST by Savage Beast (Truth : Leftist :: Crucifix : Vampire)
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To: CounterCounterCulture
"the Crown declared one third of the land area of Southern England to be the royal forest, the exclusive preserve of the monarch, his forestry officials and his favored aristocrats."

You can expect no more sympathy toward ordinary people (that's you and I) and the public interest from the neo-aristocrats in Washington and their forestry officials than the English peasantry got from "the Crown" and its "favored aristocrats".

I've dealt with these people.

They delight in their predatory power over the peasantry!

They get a sadistic thrill from the grasp of power and lording it over other people!

Their supporters take vicarious delight in their predatory powers. They imagine themselves wielding such power!

Could there be anything more predatory, greedy, or sadistically delighting in power than Nancy Pelosi demanding a larger jet--cruising extended family and friends around in it--demanding a more lavish and expensive office suite--vacationing in Hawaii at $10,000-a-night?

40 posted on 01/08/2011 6:50:35 AM PST by Savage Beast (Truth : Leftist :: Crucifix : Vampire)
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