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Shooting suspect's nihilism rose with isolation (Jared Lee Loughner is a 9/11 Truther)
The Associated Press ^ | 1/9/11

Posted on 01/09/2011 8:44:21 PM PST by LdSentinal

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — At an event roughly three years ago, Rep. Gabrielle Giffords took a question from Jared Loughner, the man accused of trying to assassinate her and killing six other people. According to two of his high school friends the question was essentially this: "What is government if words have no meaning?"

Loughner was angry about her response — she read the question and had nothing to say.

"He was like ... 'What do you think of these people who are working for the government and they can't describe what they do?'" one friend told The Associated Press on Sunday. "He did not like government officials, how they spoke. Like they were just trying to cover up some conspiracy."

Both friends spoke on condition of anonymity, saying they wanted to avoid the publicity surrounding the case. To them, the question was classic Jared: confrontational, nonlinear and obsessed with how words create reality.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: giffords; jared; lee; liberal; loughner
He believed the U.S. government was behind 9/11

We all know that Tea Party members, Sarah Palin and Sharon Angle believe the US government was behind 9/11./s

1 posted on 01/09/2011 8:44:27 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal

I thought this ass clown was working for her.
A liberal buttstain.

What is going on? Is he a libtard or isnt he?


2 posted on 01/09/2011 8:47:31 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LdSentinal

BTW, you have to feel for that jewelry company Jared. They’ll prbably have to change their name. That “It can only be Jared” jingle probably won’t be used for quite some time.

I actually just checked and there are two Jared stores in Tuscon. Not good.


3 posted on 01/09/2011 8:52:57 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: LdSentinal

3 years ago he was stalking the good Congresswoman.

Soooo regarding the media’s Palin connection: Nice try media, you FAILED! He was stalking her in 2007. Checkmate.


4 posted on 01/09/2011 8:52:57 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: toddausauras

I also noticed the part where they said he acted wierd towards some of the women in the class. I wouldn’t be surprised if that has something to do with what happened. Giffords is young and attractive. Could be some psycho-sexual angle going on.


5 posted on 01/09/2011 8:54:31 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: jeltz25

I think you’re right.


6 posted on 01/09/2011 8:55:42 PM PST by toddausauras
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To: LdSentinal

I will be interested in hearing from the parents at some point. They probably have lawyered up and will not be talking anytime soon. They had to have known that their kid was emotionally troubled.


7 posted on 01/09/2011 8:55:44 PM PST by Comparative Advantage
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To: toddausauras

Well now I see why Rep. Clyburn is saying it was Sharon Angles fault.


8 posted on 01/09/2011 8:56:31 PM PST by funfan
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To: LdSentinal

A truther.....well isnt that just icing on the cake....

I really want to know what question he asked gifford...I bet it had to do with 9/11...

This could really be the motive...

To truthers....if you dont gree with them or dismiss them...you are part of the conspiracy...

And that’s just the half sane ones...


9 posted on 01/09/2011 8:56:43 PM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: mylife
He could reach the highest levels of power if he plays his cards right like this "buttstain"


Bill Ayers

10 posted on 01/09/2011 8:57:08 PM PST by eleni121 (MY HERO GREGORY THE V - a living saint hanged and dragged by the ungodly muslims and their allies)
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To: mylife

Nobody has claimed he worked for her. That was a poster at Kos who wrote that she was dead to him, not the same guy.


11 posted on 01/09/2011 8:57:52 PM PST by aft_lizard (Barack Obama is Hugo Chavez's poodle.)
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To: jeltz25

I checked further and the Jared store in Tuscon is at 4210 N Oracle Ave and the Safeway where everything happened is at 7110 N Oracle Ave. So this Jared is basically right down the street or a few minutes away at most. I can’t imagine too many people will be pleased seeing that name so close to where everything happened.


12 posted on 01/09/2011 9:00:27 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: Comparative Advantage

I read somewhere, prolly here on FR, that the perp lived with his mom. Mothers know all about their chilluns when they live at home. Where the bong is hidden, where the Penthouse mags are hidden, where the little crotch fruit goes when he is not in the basement.

I’m betting they’ll be on the tube at some point, but since it will probably be Oprah or 60 Minutes or Geraldo I’m sure I’ll never see it.


13 posted on 01/09/2011 9:02:47 PM PST by West Texas Chuck (US out of the UN - UN out of the US)
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To: aft_lizard

Thanks for the clarification.


14 posted on 01/09/2011 9:03:07 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: eleni121

Sickening isnt it?


15 posted on 01/09/2011 9:04:12 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: jeltz25
This guy is screwed.


16 posted on 01/09/2011 9:06:03 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

Well, we probably won’t be seeing him for a while. Subway probably called and told him to take a vacation.

Certain names can be negatively associated with certain places. I mean, I imagine there aren’t any stores called “Tim’s” in OKC or “Lee’s” Dallas.


17 posted on 01/09/2011 9:08:14 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: LdSentinal

so the leftist media’s poster boy for conservative violence is an “ardent atheist” who believes the U.S. government was behind 9/11? Yeah, that sounds about right.


18 posted on 01/09/2011 9:09:01 PM PST by cdcdawg
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To: jeltz25

weird but true.


19 posted on 01/09/2011 9:09:04 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LdSentinal

His writing screams “schizophrenic,” just like the Virginia Tech killer, may his name be forgotten. Obsession, repetition, poverty of thought, and argument logical only to himself.

Why on earth do people insist on dragging in politics when a crazy person does something crazy? Their minds can latch on to any belief system, religious or political, and that insane attachment says nothing at all about whether that belief system when held by other people is good or bad, true or false.

The guy is crazy. Period.


20 posted on 01/09/2011 9:09:49 PM PST by heartwood
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To: cdcdawg

the thing that gets me, is apparently the guy was pissed at Giffords for no voting for the rad queen nancy as speaker of the house.

had all the dems voted for her the red queen would still be gone.

This guy was a liberal whack job pure and simple


21 posted on 01/09/2011 9:12:37 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

He had a pretty good run for just eating some sandwiches and looking like a dweeb.


22 posted on 01/09/2011 9:13:32 PM PST by CommieCutter (I'll get an internet ID when Obama shows his birth certificate.)
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To: CommieCutter

LoL The BMT is alright.


23 posted on 01/09/2011 9:16:11 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LdSentinal
V.
24 posted on 01/09/2011 9:18:15 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Please donate to FreeRepublic, sanity in a world gone mad!)
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To: LdSentinal
confrontational, nonlinear and obsessed with how words create reality.

Sounds like he could have made a good professor of postmodern literary theory.

25 posted on 01/09/2011 9:18:33 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: LdSentinal
An ardent atheist, he began to characterize people as sheep whose free will was being sapped by the government and the monotony of modern life.

"He didn't want people to wake up and do the same thing every day. He wanted more chaos, he wanted less regularity," one friend said.

26 posted on 01/09/2011 9:22:09 PM PST by kabar
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To: mylife

Now they have Ali’s daughter doing some of the commercials. I have the hots for her for some reason. I think I would need a ladder.


27 posted on 01/09/2011 9:30:27 PM PST by CommieCutter (I'll get an internet ID when Obama shows his birth certificate.)
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To: CommieCutter

All I know is that the BMT on Italian is alright.


28 posted on 01/09/2011 9:32:18 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: cdcdawg

so now the media will all come out and blame it on Oliver Stone, etc...right?


29 posted on 01/09/2011 9:33:35 PM PST by GWynand
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To: mylife

I think eating a BMT then getting your ass kicked by Ali’s daughter would be the perfect date. I like it rough. :-)


30 posted on 01/09/2011 9:34:06 PM PST by CommieCutter (I'll get an internet ID when Obama shows his birth certificate.)
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To: CommieCutter

I dont know this Ali’s daughter LoL


31 posted on 01/09/2011 9:40:00 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: LdSentinal

Ironic, the deranged man who was upset about word meaning or lack of it, started the libs frenzy on Conservative’s “words” and “meaning”.


32 posted on 01/09/2011 9:49:43 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: mylife

That wasn’t Loughner. That’s the poster from DailyKos.


33 posted on 01/09/2011 9:51:49 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we'll bring a gun". BHO)
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To: mylife
Hehehehehe...I nominate "liberal buttstain" for Phrase of the Week!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

34 posted on 01/09/2011 9:57:01 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: LdSentinal

Jared’s true colors are shining through. When will the Left apologize for inspiring lunitics to kill?


35 posted on 01/09/2011 9:58:02 PM PST by TheThinker (Communists: taking over the world one kooky doomsday scenario at a time.)
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To: toddausauras

Ditto, this guy was a real life Travis Bickle (Taxi Driver). Unfortunately there are more of them out there. Extra security should be provided to politicians of any stipe who meet her profile, fairly young and fairly attractive.


36 posted on 01/09/2011 10:16:43 PM PST by gusty
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To: jeltz25

One piece mentioned a breakup with a girlfriend although I don’t recall the timeline. I think that was described as being during the period about a year ago when he became withdrawn.


37 posted on 01/09/2011 10:34:33 PM PST by newzjunkey (Well wishes to all the families affected by the Tucson shooting.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

As a drafter, I use those symbols to indicate locations on Civil drawings, Also to indicate elevations on Plans or Cross sections on Architectural or Structural Drawings. I suppose it could be loosely interpreted as a scope because of the crosshairs, but check this out, Here is a link
http://nicedeb.wordpress.com/2011/01/09/candidate-targets-congressman-with-crosshairs-in-campaign-ad/
to a commercial Harry Mitchell ran when he was running against JD Hayworth in 2006... It shows JD Hayworth in the crosshairs of a snipers scope... No mistaking it at all!


38 posted on 01/09/2011 11:09:46 PM PST by AzNASCARfan
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To: Comparative Advantage

Especially his mother, who worked for the county. It’s not unusual, especially these days, for a 22 year old to be living at home...but if a fellow student could spot his troubles after being in clas with him one time, the family would at least have an inkling that something wasn’t right...


39 posted on 01/10/2011 3:42:13 AM PST by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: jeltz25; mylife
Google search: “Lee’s” Dallas tx

I just had to check! Would you believe there's a popular place there named "Lee Harvey's"? ;-)

40 posted on 01/10/2011 7:07:23 AM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: gusty

I thought of that once I heard about him attending various events of hers. Of course the media will never blame Hollywood, will they?

Ironically, the first person I thought of who fits the profile you mentioned, fairly young and fairly attractive, is the one the media wanted more than anything to blame this on.

BTW, has anyone mentioned how maybe the media ecnourages this when they constantly sexualize female political figures? That they’re maybe encouraging or triggering these pyscho-sexual issues?


41 posted on 01/10/2011 10:02:12 AM PST by jeltz25
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