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Ongoing FR Analysis: Jack Wheeler Murder
cnn.com ^ | January 9, 2011 | Susan Candiotti and Ross Levitt

Posted on 01/09/2011 8:55:15 PM PST by Albion Wilde

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To: Albion Wilde

Have they proven that it was actually murder or was it death by non violent causes such as suffocation or such?

I have seen or heard nothing that said he was shot, knifed or struck in the head or anything.


41 posted on 01/10/2011 12:05:27 AM PST by jongaltsr (It)
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To: Hildy

thanks, Hildy - yes. My intuition says it’s somehow important that the only person Wheeler asked for a ride to his home, was his old-time pharmacist friend, who offered to call him a cab instead.

Wheeler didn’t want to leave the pharmacy in a cab. Why? If he needed to get home, why did he care how he got there? Why would he ask the pharmacist for a ride anyway if he thought his car was in a parking garage 7 miles away? Why was it pharmacist or nobody? Wheeler went intentionally looking for that pharmacist on Dec 29th at 6pm, not wandering aimlessly.

Did Wheeler tell the pharmacist he had been robbed, or was he robbed after leaving the pharmacy, but before the parking garage at 7pm? If he was robbed after the pharmacy, why didn’t he return to the pharmacy? If he was robbed prior to the parking garage, why did he tell people the next day he had plenty of money and how did he get money to buy a cup of coffee? How did he make 7 miles in less than one hour between the pharmacy and the parking garage at night in rough weather?

Perhaps the pharmacist entered the cabby’s number into Wheeler’s phone so Wheeler could call a cab if he changed his mind later?? (not unusual for cabbies to leave cards in pharms for rx deliveries and such, and, if a leased cab, it would not be unusual to have a direct cell number for the cab since he’s paying a flat lease fee, not per call) or did Wheeler get the cabby’s number from the DuPont hotel?

OTOH, if Wheeler dropped his phone as he was planting rat traps across the street from his house before he left his house on the 24th to go to NYC, how could he have used that same phone to post to his alumni thread on the 28th or to call his attorney on the 27th or to email his friend at Atlantic Magazine on the 29th?

What could NCAA also stand for? or ‘absolute football’ ? Have they found Wheeler’s briefcase? a robber would just toss it into the nearest dumpster if nothing of value was inside...

and, finally, according to this link, the cab driver who’s phone number was in Wheeler’s phone said he saw Wheeler at least twice at the Hotel du Pont, where Wheeler alleged he was staying.http://www.examiner.com/criminal-profiles-in-national/john-p-wheeler-timeline-update-labored-but-lucid


42 posted on 01/10/2011 1:12:32 AM PST by blueplum
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To: Albion Wilde

the AZ shooting has sure taken public attention off Wheeler and what he might have been doing before commiting suicide and jumping into a trash truck

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaBAx7652lM


43 posted on 01/10/2011 1:47:19 AM PST by SF_Redux (the scarier part about all these Marxists is, that a few of them can breed .. with the opposite sex)
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To: vbmoneyspender; Beckwith

Exactly,or maybe the killers assistant.

Wheeler was done in because he had information he was going to share with his West Point colleagues, IMHO.
Oh and wahtever happento to the Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr. case? That was an obvious hit because he had information from State Department files.

There is a political hit team operating in the United States.This is the cutting edge of liberal fascism, and they must be stopped.


44 posted on 01/10/2011 2:04:20 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_ipthe _quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Candor7

Candor7

Re: whatever happened to to the Lieutenant Quarles Harris Jr. case?

“Lt.” Quarles Harris was a petty street punk con-artist. His name was “Leiutenant” (note spelling), he was not a lieutenant in anything. He was arrested in the possession of many phony credit cards that he had acquired via an identity theft scheme which involved stealing personal information from passport applications.

Leiutenant Harris was in court for that case three days before his murder. “He felt like he was going to do jail time. He was willing to do jail time,” said his mother.

Police had stopped her son and found 20 credit cards and eight completed passport applications. According to court documents, Leiutenant Harris told police he and someone inside the State Department were taking information off passport applications, which they used to get fraudulent credit cards. Another conspirator, inside the Postal Service, intercepted the cards before they could get to the actual people.

There IS no connection between “Lt.” Quarles Harris and the scrubbing of Obama’s passport files.


45 posted on 01/10/2011 3:08:35 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Beckwith
He was thought to have Obamas State Departent records which he had gathered as part of his "taking information off passport applications,"

I agree he was a petty con artist, a crucial witness to a federal crime investigation. Whether he actually had such information about Obama can never be ascertained, he is dead.Given Obamas self censorship of his documentation of record, ,my assumption is that Quarles Harris did indeed have such information.I agree with you that it is an assumption, but none the less, a logical one.

We do know that both Hillery Clinton's and Obama's State Departent files had been illegally accessed months prior to Harris's murder, but we do not know by whom.

46 posted on 01/10/2011 3:17:35 AM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_ipthe _quintessentia_1.html)
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To: hoosiermama

On one hand, putting the FBI on the case makes perfect sense - IF YOU REALLY WANT TO FIND THE KILLER. I wouldn’t trust the DE police forces to find anything.

OTOH, what better group than the FBI to cover up the crime - IF YOU REALLY DON’T WANT TO FIND THE KILLER.

I generally don’t think of coverups or government malfeasance - BUT this is the 0bambi administration and this action smells.


47 posted on 01/10/2011 3:24:01 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Albion Wilde
"It sounds trite to say, but he was a true patriot," said Thornblom.

He was a true patriot and a brilliant guy.

48 posted on 01/10/2011 3:53:45 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: hoosiermama; Albion Wilde
[Retired Col. & West Point roomate]Doug Thornblom discounted speculation Wheeler would have been involved in an alleged smoke bomb incident at the construction site of the house.

"This is so out of character and I can tell you right now, all of us at West Point went through demolitions and mine-clearing technique training and even how to construct field expedient napalm.

If Jack had wanted that house disappointed or burnt down, he would've done it. Nobody would have known about it. And he certainly wouldn't have been stupid enough to leave his iPhone there," Thornblom said.

I have no faith in a govt investigation at this point.

49 posted on 01/10/2011 4:04:00 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: OCC
I’m afraid this story may drop off the radar due to Representative Giffords attempted assassination.

Exactly...

50 posted on 01/10/2011 4:06:09 AM PST by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: NTHockey

“putting the FBI on the case makes perfect sense -

...because it crossed state lines.


51 posted on 01/10/2011 4:26:35 AM PST by Justa
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To: Albion Wilde
I spoke with Jack 2 weeks prior to his death.
He was in good health. He was lucid and alert.

Our discussion was about North Korea and his son.
He was concerned about his son possibly getting laid
off and not getting paid.

Jacks home in New Castle is about 10 miles from the train station in Wilmington and about 12 miles from Newark.

If I remember correctly Jack only had one shoe after the robbery. He can be seen in the parking lot video
holding the other broken one in his hand.

As far as smoke bombs go it was close to New Years
and they were being sold down the street at the market
by the box full along with other assorted fireworks.
The house across the street from Jack was under construction,
was only a plywood shell and was located right on the edge
of the main parking lot for a park and any kid could have
tossed one of these fireworks through the openings of
the house.

Jack was a Vietnam Vet, Served his country all his life
just like his father and was above all a patriot and
a brother to his fellow servicemen.

He was kind, he was gentile, he was modest to a fault
and did not deserve to die like this.

I have been sick over this and tormented by the negative
garbage in the papers and the lack of their concern
over who did this to Jack.

IS this the fate of our heroes?

I morn your passing Jack.
As you last told me ¨you are a good man¨, no Jack, you
were a 1000nd times better.

52 posted on 01/10/2011 4:34:02 AM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: DaveTesla

.....IS this the fate of our heroes?....

Yes, until the vermin writers of destruction are exterminated


53 posted on 01/10/2011 4:37:22 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: DaveTesla
Are you certain that the man in the videos is Jack Wheeler and not some double?

ML/NJ

54 posted on 01/10/2011 4:53:10 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Beckwith; Candor7
There IS no connection between “Lt.” Quarles Harris and the scrubbing of Obama’s passport files.

If not what would be the motive for his murder and the cover ups???

55 posted on 01/10/2011 5:09:47 AM PST by danamco (')
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To: LucyT; smoothsailing

Thx for the ping over here Lucy...

THE CABBIE:

Authorities have also taken Athel Scott, a cab driver, in for questioning after finding his phone number on Wheeler’s cell phone.

Scott says he doesn’t know how his number got on Wheeler’s phone, but he says he does remember seeing him.

“I seen him one day by the Hotel du Pont and one day I seen him at the train station going inside that little store, that’s all I know,” Scott said.

Police are still trying to find out how Wheeler got around after returning to Wilmington on December 28th from Washington, D.C.

He somehow made it to New Castle and back again to Wilmington, while his car sat parked in the garage across the street from the train station.


My question is how does he remember seeing him twice at different locations on different days?

The above information was posted by smoothsailing - I didn’t get a link


56 posted on 01/10/2011 5:19:53 AM PST by WestCoastGal (SL I believe hes a remarkable race-car driver, I think some people in the world have forgotten that)
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To: Parley Baer

Someone could have used Wheeler’s phone to call the taxi driver and may have ridden in the guy’s taxi, but how would the driver know it was a stolen phone?


57 posted on 01/10/2011 5:36:57 AM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
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To: Albion Wilde

Thank you for the summary.


58 posted on 01/10/2011 5:39:22 AM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Oh thanks you I want to be a ping list. The last update I had was the cell phone was found in the neighbors house? I thought to myself this is a lie maybe the police were just giving out false information.


59 posted on 01/10/2011 5:42:00 AM PST by angcat (DEAR GOD PLEASE SAVE OUR COUNTRY!)
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To: Albion Wilde
I tried to see if there was a number posted on the outside of Scott's cab. The chances of Scott knowing it was him "on two different occasions" and in two different outfits is almost impossible.

When I heard Scott say: "That's all I know"....it sent up a red flag.

John got mugged between the pharmacy in New Castle and when he is seen "homeless" in the garage in Wilmington...It's only 40 minutes...20 minutes of it is travel....

We still don't know why he was going to Wilmington but someone does. He must have been going to see someone.

We do not know what he was wearing in the Pharmacy. Did he have a topcoat on?? Was he carrying a briefcase at this time? He should have been according to future events. If he did have his briefcase, one would guess that he was going to Wilmington on business. Who's in Wilmington??...his attorney.

It still drives me crazy that he didn't call his wife after being mugged. I don't give a damn that she was traveling.

Possible domestic troubles??

P.S. I'm going to sell some of my gold this week. If I look homeless, will he give me more??

60 posted on 01/10/2011 5:46:25 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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