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Palin Calls Criticism ‘Blood Libel’
New York Times ^ | January 12, 2011 | MICHAEL D. SHEAR

Posted on 01/12/2011 5:42:46 AM PST by reaganaut1

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To: rightwingcrazy

I’m trying to find support for this concept, but I can’t find any real definition of “blood libel” that isn’t tied to false accusations that jews were killing children and using their blood.

I don’t see any real evidence of this “modern usage” that others have called out, nor do I see a particularly good parallel between “blood libel” and what the left has been doing to us.

They are accusing us of inciting violence, not of killing people to use them for religious or political purposes. It’s just a stretch; and since we aren’t saying the left is looking to have us put to death, that aspect of “blood libel” doesn’t exist either.


241 posted on 01/12/2011 8:05:23 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: wtc911
You've made your point, and continued flagellation of same does nothing but help the enemy.

/.02

242 posted on 01/12/2011 8:05:34 AM PST by tomkat (FØ)
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To: Natufian
The Tea Party is not an ethnic group but Liberals described it and targeted it as “white.” So liberals are targeting a racial group - whites. They blamed Palin and the Tea Party for a spilling blood and that is a lie. Further they attempted to whip up public hysteria and hatred towards this group and advocated denying their constitutional rights based on a witch hunt. I think Palin using the term “blood libel” is valid.
243 posted on 01/12/2011 8:05:52 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I think Benjamin Netanyahu is pretty close to Sarah Palin. It’ll be interesting if he has any comments on it.


244 posted on 01/12/2011 8:07:29 AM PST by FreedomForce (A conservative 2012)
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To: DManA

That was an excellently succinct way of saying something that I have been using multiple paragraphs to try less successfully to convey.


245 posted on 01/12/2011 8:07:29 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Question

Define the word “Blood” and “Libel”.


246 posted on 01/12/2011 8:07:35 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: Pravious

I wasn’t sure if I was going to vote for her, if she runs in 2012, but her presidential sounding speech convinced me that I must


247 posted on 01/12/2011 8:07:35 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: DaxtonBrown; wtc911; r9etb

I don’t know anything about wtc, but r9 detoo is a notorious Palin hater and a hater period.


248 posted on 01/12/2011 8:07:41 AM PST by altura
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To: All

Clinton made popular the term “focus like a laser beam” during his first state of the union batch of lies.

He was talking about the economy but damn if I ain’t heard the term used a hundred different times on a hundred different things.

If it ain’t used for the economy I guess it is misused,right?
There is an insidious PC on the Right as well.


249 posted on 01/12/2011 8:08:13 AM PST by Happy Rain
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To: r9etb
As for the Tea Party movement -- no, I don't have much use for it, because it seems to be viscerally opposed to doing those things that would make it politically effective in a positive way, rather than just being a group of folks saying what they're against.

I suggest you do a google search for "2010 election results".

250 posted on 01/12/2011 8:08:25 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

You have made it past the part of your education where you learn how phrases can have meanings distinct from the meaning of the words used in those phrases, right?

If not, at least it would explain your lack of understanding of the difficulty of the use of the phrase “blood libel”.

On the other hand, I think you do understand, because otherwise you wouldn’t suggest that the dictionary definition of “blood” makes the phrase “blood libel” common sense. It’s the interpretation of blood as a metaphor for killing that makes this make sense. Like the phrase “blood on his hands”.

Which is a good example of how a phrase means more than the words. It’s not that a person’s hands are coated in blood, it’s the REASON they are coated in blood that is implied by the phrase.


251 posted on 01/12/2011 8:11:37 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: r9etb
You are squabbling over words again is futile.

The real issue will begin shortly and that will be Gun Control, the removal of free speech and the dis-assembly of the Constitution.

It's high time to tone down your own brand of rhetoric and join the real fight against each and every one of us.

252 posted on 01/12/2011 8:13:00 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
But we shouldn’t respond by accusing them using a term that suggests their speech is going to lead to violent attacks on people. Which is what “blood libel” implies.

I think this is exactly where it is leading. Do you honestly believe that Sarah Palin is going to be able to go out into public now without increased security? Have you seen the death threats against her on Twitter? The MSM has been libeling her for days with accusations of murder and the moonbats on the left believe them.

253 posted on 01/12/2011 8:14:13 AM PST by Jess79
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To: CharlesWayneCT

“They are accusing us of inciting violence, not of killing people to use them for religious or political purposes. It’s just a stretch; and since we aren’t saying the left is looking to have us put to death, that aspect of “blood libel” doesn’t exist either.”

I sympathize with what you’re saying, but I can also see Palin’s dilemma in labeling the Left’s actions. If she had simply written “libel”, the likely response would have been snarky comments about her ignorance of libel laws. Really, she shouldn’t have to walk on eggshells with her choice of words. Her point was clear, especially the context within which it was written.


254 posted on 01/12/2011 8:14:13 AM PST by rightwingcrazy
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To: Natufian

yea, your right, she was speaking from their perspective of “White people”

That is the image they have been trying to paint for the American People of the tea party.


255 posted on 01/12/2011 8:15:12 AM PST by dila813
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To: CharlesWayneCT

What she said was ok.

I would have said things that they would have had to edit out.

what meant is that she is not responsible for the blood shed.

I stand by her.


256 posted on 01/12/2011 8:16:17 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: kevkrom
That is completely backwards. The phrase is most commonly used by Jews to point out false and defamatory statements made about them by others.

Correct.

257 posted on 01/12/2011 8:16:33 AM PST by TankerKC (Part of the Soros funded Blog Police.)
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To: r9etb; altura
That's fine with me. Your good opinion is not valuable.

Neither is yours, seeing how, in post #178, you completely misrepresented the view of the majority of Americans on the value of the Tea Party.

You want to belittle others for their opinion, it would be best to first reconcile your own deficiencies.

258 posted on 01/12/2011 8:16:36 AM PST by bcsco
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To: wtc911

99% of everyday Americans have NEVER heard this phrase before, much less know what it technically means.

We ‘get’ BLOOD and we ‘get’ LIBEL, and now we ‘get’ BLOOD LIBEL—Sarah has hit this one out of the ballpark and into the history books.


259 posted on 01/12/2011 8:16:44 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: wtc911
Geez, that's exactly the point.

Of what? Gibson, in Passion of The Christ merely used the Gospels for all references to the Jews and their culpability in Christ's death. The film did not say that Jews drank the blood of new-born babes. But, Krauthammer in a column and others called the film a "blood libel". In its strictest sense, blood libel was the incorrect term to use to criticize the movie. However, in its hyperbolic sense (the context Palin used in her speech); it was perfectly correct (from Krauthammer's P.O.V.).

I merely mentioned the film as an example of it being used by Jews in a hyperbolic way. That is how language works. A phrase that means something specifically eventually gets used as hyperbole or exaggeration and loses its original meaning. as has been pointed out, the WSJ had already used the term in that way to describe the MSM's attacks in the wake of the shootings.

260 posted on 01/12/2011 8:17:18 AM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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