Posted on 01/14/2011 3:48:25 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
Your Master Chief friend is right. I was in the Navy for six years as an officer, late 80s.
I remember reading a Naval Institute Proceedings article about the challenges of a ship’s captain dealing with a mixed crew. In exasperation, he asked for help from his Command Master Chief who replied, “Sir, they’re blanking like rabbits down there and there’s not a darn thing we can do about it.” If I remember correctly, the Captain was relieved for his actions trying to instill some discipline in his crew.
(I just deleted two whole paragraphs of sea stories about what I saw. What does it matter?)
We (Americans) elected these empty suits who couldn’t hold regular jobs. We continue to elect the same bunch over and over again. I pray that our country can be fixed but I’m not optimistic.
BTW, tell you Master Chief friend that Chief Petty Officers still run the Navy. We need their help more than ever.
Six to twelve months before the draft is re-instituted.
My God. Are you serious? “Girls should be given a chance.”
Girls should be given a chance with our national defense at stake? Please.
As a service academy graduate and former officer, I’ve often been asked for advice about the military from young people. For the first time in my life, I will urge anyone interested in a military career to consider choosing otherwise because of the RUINOUS dictates placed upon our men and women service members by the idiotic, empty suits in Washington.
I’m assuming you’ve never served in the military. Maybe you were being sarcastic, if so, I guess I can understand the humor.
Is seven plus one your age?
It doesn’t take a young, impressionable female long to realize that there’s a great deal of money to be made on the free market.
It doesn’t take a young, impressionable male or any male, for that matter, long to figure out that the free market provides the greatest return on funds invested.
USS Yellowstone skipper realized that fact back in the 80s.
Cultural Marxism is out to destroy the difference between women and men. It is to kill the Natural Family—the primary institution in every society which provides the best emotional and physical structure for raising children. They are destroying children and their homes—the safe place which forms their fundamental worldview.
Marxists want children away from parents. They want children to grow up destroying the Judeo/Christian paradigm which says God made man and woman. They are different. Women are nurturers by nature. Men are protectors by nature. If they teach and brainwash that the “idea” that God’s design is wrong, then the whole Bible is garbage.
That is why they push homosexuality—to get rid of the concept of Natural Law Theory. It is the bases of common sense....PC from cultural Marxism destroys common sense....they can’t have logic and reason because their ideology is based on The Big Lie. It can’t stand debate. That is why they are forcing “hate speech” laws....to prevent logic.
With logic and reason, a destructive, dysfunctional behavior would never be allowed to be promoted to young children as “good” and “normal” or to the military which is saying that honor and character mean nothing in a military WHEN IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ELEMENT. Homosexual behavior is the opposite of honorable....never could be anything but selfish, lust. It is demeaning to human life and nihilism.
Marxists want no difference between men and women....all is the same. What is the difference between homosexual sex and heterosexual sex. They say (with no logic)—nothing. They are equal. It is to destroy the structure which creates a safe way to transmit culture to kids....because they want to form the thinking of your children and grandchildren—make them into useful idiots who will never have a rational thought.
All worth repeating
Sign me up, they still have 10% men in the battalion.
WIll Israel be invaded from the South? Maybe.Obama has a lot of stuff happening in Jordon and the West Bank.Our military is training a Palestinian”police force” there.But their training is combat related.
Over the years,how many needless deaths-in life or death situations that demand upper body strength for successful outcomes-have resulted due to counter-biological Leftist delusions of the scientifically rejected physical equality of the sexes?
Yes,a rhetorical question for sure—but now it gets to be asked of our military as well.
Well for the women and children who live in a country during a war they are already ON the front line. Talk to people who lived in Dresden, etc., during WWII. Bombs all around day and night. A friend of mine was a little boy in Germany during WWII and he talked of hearing bombs falling all around his town at night.
Speaking of innuendos, females of their three sexual orientations (or more) are desperately needed in every combat unit. Just their mere presence will go a long way toward setting a tolerant and sensitive example for the one or two straight men left per battalion who might otherwise create a hostile combat atmosphere for their gay brothers-in-arms. You know how vicious those straight men can get!
Finally! We can stop our brutal armed forces from shooting people and damaging property. Can't we all just get along?
Affirmative Action, non-normative PING
Yep. How quickly they forget the multiple rapes of Pvt Lynch in Iraq. No one wants to talk about that.
Get your facts straight regarding the difference between Combat; CS;CSS.
Nice try. I do not know from what point you are arguing from. But I did 20 years, so I know better.
My collegue of many years was directly involved in her rescue. Otherwise, the facts are self evident:
1. She wasn’t in Ft Bliss.
2. The combat support unit to which she was assigned was in direct support of maneuver elements (not third echelon or depot level maintenance).
3. She was repeatedly raped by Iraquis.
4. In convoy operations, all are riflemen. Gee, that’s Army and Marine doctrine; straight out of the FM and FMFM.
5. The enemy doesn’t give a rip about the designation of your unit or MOS. If your show your a$$ on the battlefield, you will be engaged. When you attach a CSS unit to a combat unit: it becomes part of that combat unit.
6. DoD has progressively overstepped US law allowing females to be in combat. She, and the other native American female that died SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THERE.
As it stands, Jessica, or the family of Lori Piestewa can sue the living crap out of DoD, and they probably are totally unaware of it.
Does anyone know who General Casey — he who said a loss of diversity would be worse than the slaughter of all those people at Fort Hood — comes down on this?
I never served, so I generally defer to those who have (especially in combat units) on this. That combined with my own view leads me to oppose this strongly. What I’ve never heard a supporter of women in combat sufficiently address is the scenario where a wounded soldier must be carried or pulled from danger. The number of women who could carry a man would be almost zero, and a woman would not be able to drag a man (or another woman) as quickly as a man could.
I think the idea that standards could be maintained is a fantasy. If tough standards are maintained, then there will only be a handful of women who can pass muster. Therefore either the standards themselves will be attacked as outdated and sexist and be jettisoned, or the standards will remain on the books but will be completely ignored, with the Pentagon’s unofficial approval.
But this policy change will almost certainly happen. If there was a law prohibiting women from frontline combat units then it would probably be safe with the new House. But since all that is apparently required is Pentagon approval, then I would fully expect this since it is now Obama’s Pentagon.
When I first heard about women on ships I said that the smart ones would come back wealthy and the dumb ones would come back pregnant. I guarantee this is what has happened. Confine a bunch of young women on a ship with a bunch of sailors aged seventeen up to forty and what do you expect? It doesn’t take a genius to figure out what will happen.
" But I did 20 years, so I know better." I did 25 years which signifies that my ego is less fragile yours. :-)
I only stated it to signify in this virtual world that
I’m not nick the new guy that hasn’t LIVED the topic, and gave imput during two symposiums on this issue. It’s a credibility issue in a medium where credibility is hard to determine.
I don’t start with the argument of combat MOS integration because the ammo in which the proponents are using, come from direct violations of US law. Just had a conversation last night with a Pentagon staffer as we were watching the Packers thump Atlanta. His argument: “but they have been in combat since the war started.” That is straight from the Pentagon. He fails to mention the adverse effects, and the fact that Army misled Congress.
Women have always served in theater: but not in maneuver elements. I’m not talking about general combat support (MASH units, etc). I am talking direct support and attachment to combat units. THAT is the argument.
My mention of my time in service has nothing to do with ego. I don’t subscribe to Freud and his use of ego, id and superego: he couldn’t get a handle on the complexities of the human soul because he rejected the Bible. Separate issue but if you choose to follow Freud and his atheistic approach: go right ahead.
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