Posted on 01/15/2011 2:24:43 PM PST by BigReb555
“...the south fired the first shot..”
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Oh?
And was that because your man-god Lincoln
was sending reinforcements to a Fort (Sumter)
that was located in a foreign country (South Carolina)?
Ha Ha - LAUGHING at you damn yankee!
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Many newspapers of the north were calling for his execution.
It is believed that Gen. Lee had read them and knew that his death was a very possible outcome of surrendering.
A true man of honor.
Washington won. Lee lost. What would America look like today if the South had prevailed? Would blacks still be slaves?
Thanks to old “Light Horse Harry Lee’’ the Battle of Monmouth(6/28/1778) could have been a victory instead of a draw. He was an ass.
More southern fried revisionism.
Reagan was a great patriot and a true American hero. Reagan did nothing to harm America or damage our Republic.
The same can not be said for Lee. Lee was a traitor. Lee obviously didn’t care about America. Lee was directly responsible for life and liberty being taken away from over 600,000 Americans. To believe anything else is ignorance personified. Live with it.
More southern fried revisionism.
Reagan was a great patriot and a true American hero. Reagan did nothing to harm America or damage our Republic.
The same can not be said for Lee. Lee was a traitor. Lee obviously didn’t care about America. Lee was directly responsible for life and liberty being taken away from over 600,000 Americans. To believe anything else is ignorance personified. Live with it.
What say you Sir?
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Dude, what’s happening?
Can’t you at least try to be “civil”?
There was no greater respect than the respect that Grant and Lee had for each other.
Real gentlemen.
What do you mean, dream on? A previous poster stated that the issue of the constitutionality of secession had never been ruled upon. My post, citing Texas v. White, was intended to show that, not only was secession ruled upon, but that it was ruled upon by the very jurist so often claimed to have decided not to proceed with treason charges against Jefferson Davis because the courts would have ruled that secession was constitutional.
You may believe that Justice Chase was senile because of the decision he reached in Texas v. White.
However, when someone claims that the issue of secession was never ruled upon, they're wrong.
LOL Someones got to make you southern crybabies feel better. Grow some thicker skin, whiner.
Lincoln wasn’t wearing woman’s clothing...
(it must not have been a weekend)
So why don’t you come back again sometime when YOU try to make SOME SENSE you damn YANKEE.
Laughing AT you!
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No because there would have actually been more slaves than southern plantation owners and the slaves would have risen up. Those whites who turned the ground with the plow were considered lowly white trash. The lessor plantation owners were already bought out or forced out by the larger ones and many were moving either north or west-to Kansas etc. So eventually, they would have been forced to abandon slavery or face elimination. King Cotton Would have collapsed because the Euro nations had established cotton plantations in other countries...like India.
The whole system in the south would have collapsed.
The war was about states rights and slavery was the spark.
We dam near got into it with France at the end of that war in Mexico. Grant sent Sheridan to the border, which France decided it wasnt to bright to pick a fight with the US at that time and negotiated to prevent any war.
We would have slaughtered France and Mexico might well have become a dependent of the US.
“To believe anything else is ignorance personified. Live with it.”
You should strive to be more like Lee. You’d fall well short, to be sure, but you’d still be a better man.
No thanks. I choose to be a patriot like Reagan, NOT a traitor like Lee.
I have meaner things to say to little Ronnie Jr., but they start with drop d....
Robert E. Lee would have proudly marched with Martin Luther King. Unfortunately, he just died too soon.
As is Robert Duvall....
I don't mean to trash Lee's reputation,but for the strict facts of the matter:
Robert E. Lee did not free his slaves before the war. In the first place Lee, who was a relatively poor man with a rich wife, didn't own the slaves, they were the property of his father-in-law, George Washington Park Custis, the adopted grandson George Washington, who for the most part inherited them from his grandmother Martha. Custis freed his slaves in his will but allowed his executor, Lee, to postpone their emancipation for up to five years if he judged it essential to the financial standing of the estate. Lee judged that they were and finally emancipated them at the last possible moment on December 29, 1862, more than two months after the deadline specified in the will. (Slaves of course lacked standing to sue for the enforcement of the will.) Virtually all of the slaves were behind Union lines, had been out of Lee's control since very early in the war, and were already de facto free women and men. They would have been freed, de jure, three days later by the Emancipation Proclamation
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