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Kagan, Sotomayor, Ginsburg, and the 4th Amendment
New American ^ | 16 January 2011 | Bob Adelmann

Posted on 01/17/2011 5:46:00 AM PST by IbJensen

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To: Beagle8U

It’s not a strawman; the point is that taking the sentence to be proof of the seriousness of the crime is not correct-thinking.

In logic there is a fallacy of thinking that if A implies B, and B is true then A *MUST* be true. This is the case only in certain circumstances, but not all. As an example consider “If it is raining then I am wet.”

If you are wet, then it is indeed possible that it is raining, but you could also be taking a shower, or in the yard when the sprinklers went off. The ONLY way that you could tell that it was raining from the state of your being wet is if there is no other way in which you could become wet, then the statement “if I am wet then it is raining” is implicitly part of your rule-set.

This is DIRECTLY applicable in your argument.
You are saying “IF the crime was serious THEN he would get 11 years; he got 11 years so it must have been serious.”
The Martha Stewart case is another example, she went to prison for “lying to a federal agent,” NOT insider trading; but that particular law is so vague that statements which might be misconstrued by the agent are considered ‘lies.’


81 posted on 01/20/2011 11:06:07 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Enjoy your strawman, but, play with it outside.


82 posted on 01/20/2011 12:45:18 PM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: thefactor
"Sounds like he sure doesn't much care for criminals in this case."

Whether he cares for them is not the point. He doesn't use that as his legal rationale for believing "everything was done perfectly lawful".

He didn't claim the cops were in the right because he doesn't like drug dealers. That's illogical.

83 posted on 01/20/2011 4:58:20 PM PST by mlo
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