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Woman in combat units?
Poliquicks ^ | JANUARY 17, 2011 | H. THOMAS HAYDEN

Posted on 01/17/2011 7:28:57 AM PST by Bobibutu

The Administration’s “Military Leadership Diversity Commission” is reported to be about to announce a recommendation that women should be allowed to serve fully in combat,

Big time bad idea.

The commission says that it is seeking to dismantle the last major area of “discrimination” in the armed forces. The commission was established by Congress two years ago. The panel is to send its proposals to Congress and President Obama. According to initial reports, “It is time to create a level playing field for all qualified service members.”

“To provide a level playing field” for what?

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: combat; women
Better idea is to send all the Commission members to a combat out post and then walk a combat patrol. You can’t judge an all out war (World War II and Korea) and all its brutality on both sides by the nation building /near casualty free engagements going on today in the Iraq and Afghan.

It has been reported that there are approximately 32,000 women in the U.S. military, comprising about 13 percent of the total U.S. Armed Forces (Defense Almanac 1995). It is certainly important to give women an equal opportunity in the military but a combat role will not be equal.

Most studies found that men would be overly protective for women.

Women cannot carry the same loads required of long combat patrols. Most soldiers and Marines carry over 70 lbs on a normal insert to a new combat base. Rangers and Special Forces carry up to 120 lbs on their missions.

Normal female needs will be difficult at best in desert operations with no cover or concealment.

Think sexual harassment is bad now – wait until this proposal gets more light of day.

1 posted on 01/17/2011 7:29:01 AM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Bobibutu

A level playing field for people who aren’t comfortable with the concept of victory.


2 posted on 01/17/2011 7:34:35 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Bobibutu

That should just about do ‘er. The transformation of one of history’s grea fighting machines into a P.C jobs training program for the aggrieved. What a JOKE!


3 posted on 01/17/2011 7:36:37 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Bobibutu

What a horrible idea. Personally, I am opposed to women in the military at all, unless in an adjunct position like support staff. To encourage women in combat is looking for trouble. The fields of war are for men who are loved and prayed for by the women they leave behind. The role of women, I have always felt, is to uphold the culture and to provide nurture and beauty in a fallen world. I guess I am in the minority.


4 posted on 01/17/2011 7:42:12 AM PST by sueuprising (The best of it is, God is with us-John Wesley)
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To: Bobibutu

PC uber alles. This country is too stupid to survive as a superpower.


5 posted on 01/17/2011 7:48:29 AM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Bobibutu
The left has LITTLE use for the military, except to the extent they can have their Man-Child in the oval office LOOK presidential by PLAYING Commander-In-Chief, and of course, to the extent they can USE the military for their social engineering (women in combat roles, gays openly serving - or is that therving?).

A panel of LEFT-WING GOOFBALLS said in their "report" (read that SOCIAL ENGINEERING MANIFESTO), It is time "to create a level playing field for all qualified service members," the members said Friday.

Our nation's national security is no GAME, to be PLAYED on a PLAYING field.

There is no room for SOCIAL ENGINEERING on a BATTLEFIELD.

Our government's MAIN, CONSTITUTIONAL focus SHOULD be on WINNING wars on the BATTLEFIELD... PERIOD.

Putting our national security focus on some "fair" left-wing La-La-Land vision needs to be STOPPED at every turn.

The military, or AT LEAST, the COMBAT component of our ground-pounding military (Marines/Army, and Special Forces units from other branches) SHOULD NOT have to reflect society as a whole.

It SHOULD be full of Patriotic, testosterone-filled MEN (not Nancy-boys and women) with tough minds and bodies who are willing and ABLE to do the job to win our battles and wars on the BATTLEFIELD, NOT be prancing around a "playing field" PRETENDING to be something they are not - and just because the left FORCED the issue on our military and our country.

6 posted on 01/17/2011 7:52:47 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: Bobibutu

Anyone who has been in the Army or Marines has already gotten a taste of this. Women train along with the males in introductory infantry training.

My assessment - putting aside the moral and social implications, and ignoring the obvious logistical problems with having men and women practically sleeping on top of each other...the vast majority of women do not have the stength or endurance of the average, or even below average man.

The counter-argument is always that there are a few women who are big and strong. But, I didn’t find any of them in the military.

There’s probably a reason that there are no women NFL players, MLB players, NBA players (not WNBA btw), etc. There’s probably a reason the Olympics are broken up into ‘mens’ and ‘womens’ events. There’s probably a reason that there are scandals involving men posing as women in some sports, to gain an advantage.

Will this ‘commission’ ignore the very obvious truth that men are bigger and stronger than women? Sure, there are lots of jobs in the military which require strength; but, infantry aint one of them.


7 posted on 01/17/2011 7:53:14 AM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: Bobibutu

Well they probably figure an army filled with poofters who preoccupy themselves with their latest “love interests” need some manly and nasty bulldykes to the fightin’.


8 posted on 01/17/2011 7:53:46 AM PST by dforest
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To: Bobibutu

Back in the 1970s when women insisted on having jobs men do in the military, they started putting women on the flightlines in the USAF as aircraft mechanics...

Besides not wanting to get grease under their finger nails, the women expected the men to carry those very heavy tool boxes for them...

granted I heard this from the men...

However many of the women complained they didnt choose the job..

so I wonder if women will get to choose a combat unit...


9 posted on 01/17/2011 7:54:04 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Travis McGee

The Europeanization of the American military is almost complete. Thank you, liberals. Take a bow, socialists.


10 posted on 01/17/2011 7:55:13 AM PST by heye2monn
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To: Bobibutu

Most soldiers and Marines carry over 70 lbs on a normal insert to a new combat base
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When I was in the USAF during Nam, the limit for women was 40 pounds...


11 posted on 01/17/2011 7:55:29 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: lacrew

The counter-argument is always that there are a few women who are big and strong. But, I didn’t find any of them in the military.
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I was 5’ 2” 110LB size 8 when I was in the service...


12 posted on 01/17/2011 7:57:11 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: lacrew

That is so obvious, but not, apparently, to everyone.


13 posted on 01/17/2011 8:02:05 AM PST by altura
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To: lacrew
Anyone who has been in the Army or Marines has already gotten a taste of this. Women train along with the males in introductory infantry training.
Wrong. Marine Corps boot camp is still segregated and infantry training (ITR) is men only too.
Semper Fi ...
14 posted on 01/17/2011 8:04:12 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Tennessee Nana
"However many of the women complained they didnt choose the job.. So I wonder if women will get to choose a combat unit..."

What I heard on the news is that YES women would be allowed to ASK for combat unit jobs. So, women being allowed to ask for combat unit assignment while men are FORCED into combat units is FAIR? Welcome to 1984 - some soldiers are more equal than others!
15 posted on 01/17/2011 8:06:58 AM PST by ExTxMarine ("Convictions are more dangerous to truth than lies." ~ F. Nietzsche)
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To: Bobibutu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jrGHiFSox0&feature=related


16 posted on 01/17/2011 8:27:34 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: broken_arrow1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKeuoNNe5cw


17 posted on 01/17/2011 8:29:30 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: Bobibutu

Everyone will go with this PC crap until selective service starts drafting women. I would assume if one is able to server in front line combat units, then one should be drafted during times of war.

Is it just me?


18 posted on 01/17/2011 9:09:52 AM PST by KansasConservative1
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To: Bobibutu

My company was forced by the EEOC to hire women to do what had been a job performed by an almost 100% male work force.

They didn’t care that the reason there were almost no females was because they couldn’t or wouldn’t do the work. The job required manual skills, a high level of expertise, physical strength and endurance, a willingness to travel far and wide on short notice, the ability to live out of a suitcase in rough accomodations working long, hard hours with a changing schedule. But excellent pay.

It ended up that every female hired to do the job required a male co-worker to actually do the job. And there still was a huge turnover because of the stress and living conditions.

The truth is that not only were they inefficient, they were a burden to their co-workers, added significantly to the job cost, often created dangerous situations and spoiled the work product.

It just wasn’t suitable employment for most females but the government insisted they were equal to the job.

The 100 plus year old company was a world leader in its field. This foolishness is one of several factors (but an important one) that contributed to it’s demise and it no longer exists. Many, many thousands of jobs were lost and now the business all goes to foreign companies.


19 posted on 01/17/2011 9:10:42 AM PST by Iron Munro (When a society loses its memory, it descends inevitably into dementia - Mark Steyn)
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To: Bobibutu

Overall I am against the Women In the Military Program (WIMP).


20 posted on 01/17/2011 9:50:51 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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