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China's Rise, America's Fall?
Fox News ^ | Friday, January 14, 2011 | Glen Beck

Posted on 01/17/2011 11:22:28 AM PST by radpolis

Now, let's take a look at China. It certainly has the labor. It has the capital. It now has the fastest super computer that knocks ours into the dirt. It has raw materials. Not because China is full of the raw materials, but because while we have been taking loans, they have been buying everything up all over the planet, everywhere. They've been in -- I think the Chinese foreign minister has been to the U.S., what, twice in the last few years? Maybe? Once or twice? And he's been to Africa in one six- or eight-month period like four times. They're buying everything up, raw materials. They're buying up oil fields everywhere. I know they're waiting for to us lead on global warming. They are buying everything up.

But one thing it doesn't have is entrepreneurship and innovation. It doesn't have those two.

What do we have? Well, we're no longer the labor leader. We no longer have the capital. We no longer have the technology. We're still pretty good on that.

We have entrepreneurship and we have innovation. We're down to two and barely. Our policies today are killing the very thing that we have left: innovation and entrepreneurship.

One of the most disturbing studies that I saw in how many months ago this was -- I can't find it again and I wish I would have pulled it out. It shows that the ability of children now in America to think out of the box is declining. Why? Because you don't have to, nobody pays consequence. Nobody suffers. Nobody has a problem. Necessity is the mother of invention. What have we really invented lately? The government is snuffing things out. China is fostering innovation. They're taking our innovation and they're making it bigger and they're better.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/glennbeck/transcript/chinas-rise-americas-fall?page=2#ixzz1BJzcW0Gz

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: china
The transcript is fairly long and the analysis is, imo, superficial.

China is a complicated issue.

Any thoughts?

1 posted on 01/17/2011 11:22:31 AM PST by radpolis
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To: radpolis

2 posted on 01/17/2011 11:43:12 AM PST by clearcarbon
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To: radpolis
It now has the fastest super computer that knocks ours into the dirt.

That is not analysis. Not even superficially.

China is a complicated issue. And while Beck does some things well, this is not worth even a jumping off point for the discussion.

3 posted on 01/17/2011 11:44:25 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: radpolis

Well if you believe that China has the fastest supercomputer, then it’s not fair to say they don’t have innovation.


4 posted on 01/17/2011 11:49:25 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: radpolis
One country is ruled by a cadre of brainwashed, militant Stalinists who care more about personal power than the fate of their own nation, and know more about revolutionary destabilization techniques than about basic accounting or logic.

The other is China.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

5 posted on 01/17/2011 12:01:52 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: sam_paine

Gee I wondered if anyone noticed. We started downhill when Clinton signed NAFTA. Hows all that globaloney workin out for ya?


6 posted on 01/17/2011 12:04:31 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: radpolis
The rise and fall of great nations may be complicated, but I think you will find that at its core it is usually very simple. When great nations lose the core values and principles that made them great, they decline. Beck's premise is that we are in the process of yielding on those principles. We have lost our advantages on labor (though it can be argued that with technology, we can have a more productive labor force, the burdens of benefits and regulations nullify that). We have abandoned fiscal responsibility. Obama's policies (and liberal policies for the past half century) are stifling innovation and entrepreneurship. Perhaps China is behind us there, but with enough money, perhaps you can buy that (brain drain, anyone?). I would not be so dismissive.
7 posted on 01/17/2011 12:22:11 PM PST by fhayek
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To: radpolis

I read a very long article about a month ago regarding China’s demographic time bomb. Wish I could remember the author’s name so I could get a link for this thread.

Yes, there are a lot of rich people in China, who live predominately in the large cities. But, they also have a population over a Billion that live in 3rd world rural conditions. China’s “one-child” birth policy has left them with a population that is largely male and below replacement level population growth. These children are leaving home for the big cities. Throw in the fact that their population is generally older, there will be fewer workers to provide for the social compact either thru a western style Social Security program or that “only child” taking care of their parents.

I am leaving out a lot of information about their productivity (measured as GDP per hour per person) and what it will take to reach American style living standars of our lower class. The bottom line is that the one child policy has wrecked their demographics and will prevent them from ever accumulating wealth before they get old.

I’ll try to find the article.


8 posted on 01/17/2011 12:27:30 PM PST by Lowcountry (RIP: Peterdanbrokaw)
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To: Lowcountry
I can't find my original source, but it may have been an excerpt from this book:

Linky

9 posted on 01/17/2011 12:58:12 PM PST by Lowcountry (RIP: Peterdanbrokaw)
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To: radpolis

China is practicing Commie Checkbook Colonialism.


10 posted on 01/17/2011 1:14:25 PM PST by Mike Darancette (The heresy of heresies was common sense - Orwell)
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To: DannyTN

>>then it’s not fair to say they don’t have innovation.<<

Innovation or theft?


11 posted on 01/17/2011 1:18:03 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: screaminsunshine

I might argue that our decline began during the Tianmen Square massacres, during which Pappy Bush drank toasts to the head Communist murderers. Few people realize that the very first trade give-away’s began on that trip.


12 posted on 01/17/2011 2:17:15 PM PST by warchild9
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Seems they have both innovation and theft.
Theft to steal our designs, innovation to improve upon them.


13 posted on 01/17/2011 2:58:18 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: warchild9

And have continued unabated. Ross Perot had it right. How about the famous. Go shopping after 9/11. I always wonder why many think Bush was good. He was selling us out. I think it had to do with comparing him to Algor or Kerry.


14 posted on 01/17/2011 3:00:59 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: screaminsunshine

I feel that people like Freepers think that W was a good president is because his speechwriters slipped barely-concealed Bible quotes into his speeches. A close examination of his actual work shows it to be one long disaster for the U.S. (and I include the War in Iraq/bin Laden’s Getaway in that category). His daddy really got the ball rolling, tho.

And, oh Lord, look what we’ve got in the White House now!


15 posted on 01/17/2011 3:06:26 PM PST by warchild9
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To: warchild9

And thats the way it is.


16 posted on 01/17/2011 3:07:59 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: radpolis
Any thoughts?

Yeah, where'd all the Freepers go that thought sending 100,000 American businesses to Communist China, while flooding the U.S. with 30 million low wage illegal aliens would end well?

Anyone seen them?

17 posted on 01/17/2011 3:14:23 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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I keep thinking about what that little guy Ross Perot said..."That giant sucking sound of American jobs heading south to Mexico due to NAFTA" ....All this one world, global economy BS.

Bet even Perot didn't imagine 100,000 American businesses going to Communist China, India etc....

Wholesale sellout...

Profits regardless of consequences has all but left America dead on the floor.

18 posted on 01/17/2011 3:31:55 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: The Comedian

Zero....... Hi Mr. President. How about this “Taiwan” problem?

HU......... No problem Barry. It goes like this: When we strike Taiwan, you make allot of protestations and bluster and send a Carrier Battle Group. We will fire some missiles at the ships, but we will make sure we ONLY hit a frigate. You then withdraw your ships and proclaim that the PRC is just exercising her rightful sovereignty over Taiwan. We BOTH win!

Zero........ Don’t you mean YOU win.

HU.......... well... Sure, but at least you look SOMEWHAT competent.

Zero........ OK. Mr.President. That’s a great plan. Done.

HU.......... Can you get my Ambassador some Superbowl tickets?

Zero......... Sure. No problem.............


19 posted on 01/17/2011 3:32:00 PM PST by NeverForgetBataan (To the German Commander: ..........................NUTS !)
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