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To: jazusamo

Just curious; how do you “opt out” of Social Security, and/or, refuse to participate and donate to it?


7 posted on 01/19/2011 7:22:40 PM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: traditional1

Get elected to a federal position.


18 posted on 01/19/2011 7:37:19 PM PST by CONSERVE
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To: traditional1

Basically this (from http://dailyreckoning.com/opt-out-of-social-security/):

• Convince them you are part of a religion that is “conscientiously opposed to accepting benefits of any private or public insurance that makes payments in the event of death, disability, old age or retirement.”

• Have a ranking official of this religion authorize that you are a true believer

• Prove that your religion has been established – and continually opposing insurance – since at least 1950.

So, yes, you can opt out. Just become Amish and all is well.

Another key difference is passive confiscation versus active contract. You pay SS in the roughly same manner as you pay income tax, and if you don’t they send them durn revenuers after you. ObamaCare is different in that it forces you to make a contract against your will, assuming you don’t want to have health insurance or do business with a particular private sector insurer. That’s why the Virginia case went against the Individual Mandate. SS assumes you are passively letting the fed take your money. ObamaCare is forcing you to actively make a private sector contractual relationship you don’t want to be in. What’s next? Forced marriages? There’s another name for that.


25 posted on 01/19/2011 7:54:50 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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