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Rifle Improves Rapid Target Engagement
ASDNews ^ | 1/21/2011 | USMC

Posted on 01/22/2011 8:29:53 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

As a presence in several evolving conflicts around the world, Marines must remain up-to-date on the newest technology in order to defeat the enemy and complete the mission at hand.

For the sniper community, that title belongs to the Model 110 Semi-Automatic Sniper System.

"What (Marines) were finding as we got into Iraq and Afghanistan is that the bolt-action M40 sniper rifle we had was not able to rapidly engage targets in a built-up environment," said Capt. Carlos Cuevas, precision weapons team lead, program manager, Product Group 13 (infantry weapons), Marine Corps Systems Command, Headquarters Marine Corps in Quantico, Va. "What they needed was a semi-automatic system to be able to rapidly engage targets."

The Model 110 SASS is the weapon the Corps is fielding to fill this void and Marines from III Marine Expeditionary Force received the new rifle weapons system here Jan. 10. Consequently, the Okinawa-based Marines from 3rd Reconnaissance Battalion, 3rd Marine Division, III MEF were the first to train with the new weapons system, according to Cuevas.

The ever-changing combat environment, both in Iraq and Afghanistan, shaped the specific requirements for the new weapons system, he added.

For example, the required maximum effective range no longer simply meant the maximum range at which the rifle could hit a man-sized target, but the max range at which the rifle could rapidly engage those man-sized targets without limiting accuracy.

The capabilities of the M110 SASS, specifically the ability to rapidly engage targets, complement existing weapon systems currently in use by the Marine Corps and helps add functionality and flexibility to the scout sniper arsenal.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; m110; rifle; sniper; usmc
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1 posted on 01/22/2011 8:29:56 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
Knight Armament SR-25. Problem solved.


2 posted on 01/22/2011 8:34:06 PM PST by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

It is like a modern day M-14?


3 posted on 01/22/2011 8:34:23 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld

Sweet!


4 posted on 01/22/2011 8:34:29 PM PST by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: wastedyears

Is it .308?


5 posted on 01/22/2011 8:40:17 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: Frantzie

If it’s not it is just another example of putting lipstick on a pig.


6 posted on 01/22/2011 8:43:14 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: ErnstStavroBlofeld
OK, I could maka the sexy time with this.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

7 posted on 01/22/2011 8:47:05 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: The Comedian

L

8 posted on 01/22/2011 8:49:40 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: org.whodat; Frantzie; wastedyears
7.62x51mm NATO


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

9 posted on 01/22/2011 8:50:21 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: All
Oh yeah, it's already a success.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

10 posted on 01/22/2011 8:52:15 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: The Comedian
They're manufactured by Knights Armaments and appear to be a highly accurized AR-10 variant. So it seems that Eugene Stoner was right all along.

L

11 posted on 01/22/2011 8:56:21 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: The Comedian; Lurker
Poor boy variant.....


12 posted on 01/22/2011 8:56:46 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Lurker
No fair.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

13 posted on 01/22/2011 8:57:26 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: Squantos

I wouldn’t mind be a poor boy in that neighborhood.


14 posted on 01/22/2011 8:57:46 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

What mount you using for the M1A Marine ?

I have one with a brookfield mount and wanting to build another yet cash flow prohibits the buy of another original brookfield even if they can be found. Smith Enterprises is my plan. You have one that stays put I’d like to know the brand , model etc...


15 posted on 01/22/2011 8:59:18 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: The Comedian
I got some advice from a wise old Platoon Sergeant about fair once. I think his exact words were "F*** fair."

Smart guy that old Sergeant.

16 posted on 01/22/2011 9:00:03 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Squantos
OK, what is that lovely dark terror?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

17 posted on 01/22/2011 9:04:30 PM PST by The Comedian ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice" - B. Goldwater)
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To: Lurker

Sounds similar to Patton saying, let those bastards die for their Country!


18 posted on 01/22/2011 9:05:09 PM PST by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Frantzie

Not at all. The AR-10, that this is based on, came before the M-16/AR-15. Invented first, so to speak. Downsized to the 5.56mm/.223 later on. The original .308 has been around a long time, just now coming into it’s own...........


19 posted on 01/22/2011 9:08:08 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: Squantos
What mount you using for the M1A Marine ?

Mines an original one made by Springfield Armory, aluminum I think, with a nice heavy phosphate coating on it. I don't believe they make them any more.

I was looking at one of those titanium Sadlak jobs, but those things are really, really pricey.

There's a captive wave washer on mine that holds things nice and tight, at least for as much shooting as I do.

20 posted on 01/22/2011 9:09:39 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Squantos
this is the one i'm using on my SOCOM, locks up tight too... and you can still use the iron sights

promag $89.97 http://image.sportsmansguide.com/dimage/90149m2_ts.JPG?cell=300,300&cvt=jpeg


21 posted on 01/22/2011 9:11:55 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Lurker

Great weapon Lurk.


22 posted on 01/22/2011 9:12:34 PM PST by bobby.223
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To: Lurker; The Comedian

Ok....last “real” brookfield I found on ebay ran me 300$. I will have to search out these two you use and speak of.....

DPMS makes a really version of Reed Knights SR-25 that I want . The SR-25 is tooooooooo much duckets ! The new USMC KAC will fill the bill.

The USMC’s basic tools are now all AR platforms. This new surgical tool. Their SAW replacement and basic rifle. Wow !


23 posted on 01/22/2011 9:15:57 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: bobby.223

Thank you. I put a lot of time into it.


24 posted on 01/22/2011 9:16:16 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Chode

Cool......looks like an original issue ???

I need to grab one for my new springfield M1A as I want to keep that as my truck gun yet don’t want my TRW flavor with the brookfield stolen. It is gonna be a safe dweller and see the range only from now on. Retired !


25 posted on 01/22/2011 9:21:01 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos
The USMC’s basic tools are now all AR platforms.

Which makes a lot of sense from a training standpoint. There are more accurate platforms out there but for military purposes this one will be more than good enough. Put this bad boy in the hands of a few Marine Scout/Snipers and they'll bring a world of doom on bad guys the world around.

Semper Fi.

26 posted on 01/22/2011 9:21:04 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: The Comedian

DPMS LRT-SASS with a Leupold Mk4


27 posted on 01/22/2011 9:23:12 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Sweet


28 posted on 01/22/2011 9:23:38 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Squantos
it's all steel... and it took a little fitting of the dovetail but all in all, for $90, it's a good deal
29 posted on 01/22/2011 9:26:39 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Squantos
My mount is the original First Gen I believe, single screw type. Like I said they don't make 'em anymore and I'm sure what's available now is in some way 'better' than the one I've got.

But I've never had any real trouble with mine so I haven't had cause to replace it.

30 posted on 01/22/2011 9:27:40 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

Oh agree 100%.....plus will be tough for an enemy marksman to target the “different” troop by a special weapon carried. The SAW I think is a piston version Hk 416 that will only be obvious to a sniper if the gunner uses something like a CMAG etc ...

This new sniper rig is Reed’s KAC factory.

M4’s I have seen are colt, bushmaster and Hk in the field of late.......


31 posted on 01/22/2011 9:28:04 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Lurker

What are you using for optics? I have tossed a few cheaper scopes and I can finally (maybe) get something worth sticking with.


32 posted on 01/22/2011 9:28:32 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Lurker

agree....if it works you won !

I hope yer well !!

stay safe !


33 posted on 01/22/2011 9:30:54 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Frantzie
It is like a modern day M-14?

Now Frantzie, don't be such a cynic. This $5,000 thoroughly-modern-wonder is almost as good as a $500 M14, and also has a built in flashlight, corkscrew, and decoder ring.

There's another advantage. The M-14s are available immediately. This one has to go through a few years of field testing and improvements, which will create jobs ... in Mexico.

34 posted on 01/22/2011 9:32:44 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Wanted: 1 Governor, 1 AG, to keep Obama off 1 state ballot in 2012.)
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To: Chode

I got one similar, so iron sights can be used quickly too!


35 posted on 01/22/2011 9:35:04 PM PST by STD (** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We bring a confiscated Gun”)
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To: Chode; B4Ranch; 300winmag

Gonna snag one , try it. I have in the past helped folks I work with “make” em work but a few times we got lucky and the fit and hold was perfect. I guess everyone of the mounts is a bit different and as you did a bit of detailing will make em good and solid.

I’ll get the one you have and try it first. If I’m lucky it’ll work as yours did. If not, a few set screws and some locktite should make it proper for EDC !

Stay safe !!


36 posted on 01/22/2011 9:36:21 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

I’m sorry but whats a brookfield?


37 posted on 01/22/2011 9:36:46 PM PST by STD (** Obama: “They Bring a Knife…We bring a confiscated Gun”)
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To: STD

Brookfield Precision Tool made the best M1A mounts long ago. Very good mount. Zero play and stood up to rough use. I carried one in the service. Now I have just the one on my M1A and was looking for another.


38 posted on 01/22/2011 9:52:35 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos
glad i could help...
39 posted on 01/22/2011 9:53:55 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: STD
yup, nice feature...
40 posted on 01/22/2011 9:54:44 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: STD
Brookfield Precision made the improved scope mount for the M21/M25/M14 Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR) rifles. I believe the rights were purchased by Smith Enterprises, Inc. and you can purchase one from them from Smith for about $225. (Note: these mounts are pricey and that's before you add the tactical rings or a precision Mil-Spec scope.)

The Knight's Armament Co. (KAC) of Vero Beach, FL builds the SR-25 Precision Rifle used by police snipers. It is a scaled-up .308 Winchester caliber version of the .223 Remington AR-15.

The Navy and Marines have been using the Mk 11 Mod 0/1 to supplement the M40A5 Sniper's in 7.62 NATO. The M110 SASS (Semi-Automatic Sniping System) is a modified version of the Mk 11 with some Army peculiar bells and whistles the Mk 11 and SR-25 don't have. The M110 SASS will be supplemented by the M24A1 Sniper Weapon System (SWS) now being upgraded to .300 Winchester Magnum from 7.62 NATO.

All KAC sniper rifles employ a quick attach/detach sound suppressor and are equipped with folding iron sights for use if the optics are removed.

41 posted on 01/22/2011 10:06:50 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Smokin' Joe
What are you using for optics?

That's a Springfield Armory First Gen Rangefinding. They don't make 'em anymore.

42 posted on 01/22/2011 10:08:40 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
is almost as good as a $500 M14

You find an M14 for $500, you let me know. I'll buy all of them you have.

43 posted on 01/22/2011 10:12:42 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
......You find an M14 for $500....

Point is, the M-14s are already bought and in inventory in numbers large enough to equip at least one man in every squad presently in combat. I am fairly certain they can be refurbished, and fitted with composite, bedded stocks, telescopic sights and bipods for $500 or close, each. As you know, they are an accurate weapon to begin with.

44 posted on 01/22/2011 10:23:49 PM PST by Kenny Bunk (Wanted: 1 Governor, 1 AG, to keep Obama off 1 state ballot in 2012.)
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To: Squantos
Poor boy variant.....

GMTA (and spend alike). Most of my changes reflect my preferences in ergonomics. Except for the Timney target trigger, and the new 50-round drum (also available for H&K G3s and FN FALs).

These types of rifles would have been considered bona fide sniper rifles 30-35 years ago. Now these types are "urban shooting gallery" rifles for designated marksmen at the platoon level for use in cities. To reach out and touch someone reliably at 1000m and beyond still requires a bolt action for now. The Army is rebuilding all their Remington 700s in .300 Winchester Magnum (please, please let there be ammo overruns). Beyond that, the money seems to be on the .338 Lapua Magnum. The Canucks seem to like the AI rifle, having set two consecutive world records for first-shot kills. The ranges were, to my best remembering, 2400 and 2600m. Them's bragging rights.

And FYI to anybody with the DPMS SASS, the trigger and hammer pins on their OEM target trigger are .001" undersize, with a diameter that does not correspond to any known SAE, metric, or other oddball drill stock or pin. But the standard pin size is a common SAE diameter, and I just used my fingers to run a reamer through the holes to bring them back to normal, and open up the world of aftermarket parts.

All the trouble they went to, and it only slowed me down for about 15 minutes.

45 posted on 01/22/2011 10:57:58 PM PST by 300winmag (Overkill never fails)
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To: Lurker

Thanks, Lurker. I guess I’ll keep looking. Any recomendations that don’t cost more than a cheap used pickup in the hinterlands?


46 posted on 01/22/2011 11:42:13 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Squantos
Poor boy variant.....

You and I differ greatly on the definition of "poor."

47 posted on 01/23/2011 9:32:20 AM PST by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: gundog

Lol....as do I an Reed Knight an his SR25 flavor.....

The DPMS version is a third of the cost at MSRP around here.

IMO the DPMS is just as good if not better as I have fired both many times at work an varmint hunting. Same optics an ammo ...same lot numbers in fact.

Yeah if I had the duckets to waste....KAC products ae neat yet my serious rifle for accuracy is s 98 mauser.

But agree with ya on poor....:p)


48 posted on 01/23/2011 10:00:24 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Kenny Bunk
I am fairly certain they can be refurbished, and fitted with composite, bedded stocks, telescopic sights and bipods for $500 or close, each.

I'd dispute that figure just a bit. A McMillan Tactical stock runs nearly $500.00 alone. Kreiger barrels will set you back $400 or so. Toss in a bipod and you're at a grand right there. And we haven't even started talking about mounts for optics, let alone the optics themselves.

Then there's the tactical advantage of having a nearly identical platform to the M16. Training is vastly simplified because the controls are all in the same place and serve the same function. AND the bad guys can't pick out the obvious marksman from a distance. That's huge.

Now don't get me wrong. I love the M1A. Scroll back up the thread to see the one I built. But making a new, purpose built 7.62 platform for our guys at the tip of the spear makes a good deal of sense to me.

Best,

L

49 posted on 01/23/2011 10:07:20 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
My buddy put a Luepold on his, but those things run several hundred dollars easy. I got a real deal on the SA model on a close out. I think I paid around 450 or so.

L

50 posted on 01/23/2011 10:09:21 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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