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Why the shock, Why the outrage, Why now?
Townhall.com ^ | 1.22.11 | Kevin McCullough

Posted on 01/23/2011 7:05:54 AM PST by jodiluvshoes

...In other words, while Gosnell was collecting jars of tiny feet, severed from the babies he ended the lives of, abortion practitioners from coast to coast were performing the eerily similar procedures. And 100% of them done with the backing of the National Organization for Women, the National Abortion Rights Action League, and a long list of U.S. Senators, including then Senator Barack Obama.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: abortion; barackobama; kermitgosnell; pennsylvania; talkradio

1 posted on 01/23/2011 7:05:57 AM PST by jodiluvshoes
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To: jodiluvshoes

OMG!! The horror, and yet people are ELECTED and PRAISED for this action!


2 posted on 01/23/2011 7:26:47 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: jodiluvshoes
Ed Rendell is flabbergasted his health dept did not have the abortion clinics on the list for inspections. Beauty salons, barbers and nail places were first. They did not do a decent job in that area either. Things are changing in Harrisburg. It WILL be first on the agenda.
3 posted on 01/23/2011 7:26:50 AM PST by oldironsides
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To: jodiluvshoes

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2661884/posts


4 posted on 01/23/2011 7:34:42 AM PST by pastorbillrandles
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To: oldironsides
This evil man who butchered these babies, is just the tip of the iceberg. If they think he's the only one killing babies like this, they better start looking around at ALL abortion clinics.

The book Lime 5 is an eye opener.

5 posted on 01/23/2011 7:37:46 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Ann Archy

You vote for a ‘pro-choice’ candidate; you are an accessory.


6 posted on 01/23/2011 7:39:05 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: oldironsides
Ed Rendell and Tom Ridge are probably much more responsible for this than either of them will ever admit.

It's THEIR attitude toward killing babies ~ Tom definitely likes it and Ed wallows in filth. They should be held accountable for misfeasance, malfeasance and nonfeasance in this case and brought before the bar for punishment ~

7 posted on 01/23/2011 7:44:43 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: jodiluvshoes

I am so SICKENED by outrages like this, that I cannot even bring myself to READ the details and the articles!


8 posted on 01/23/2011 7:51:43 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Ann Archy
“OMG!! The horror, and yet people are ELECTED and PRAISED for this action!”

I wonder when Hollywood will make a movie about this guy, like the touchy-feely abortionist as hero films they've made and acclaimed over recent years.

9 posted on 01/23/2011 7:51:46 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: who knows what evil?

You vote for a ‘pro-choice’ candidate; you are an accessory

Pelosi CINO=Guilty
Biden CINO=guilty
Reid Guilty
Obama=Guilty.

And a host of others who voted to allow the killing of infants in payment for a vote.


10 posted on 01/23/2011 7:51:46 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Have the ‘Reverends’ Sharpton and Jackson addressed this story as of yet? If not; their silence speaks for itself.


11 posted on 01/23/2011 7:54:55 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Hollywood will probably make it, but fictionalize it, making it appear as if the guy is a right wing extremist out to exterminate black people.


12 posted on 01/23/2011 8:27:05 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: jodiluvshoes
Why the shock, Why the outrage, Why now?

Good questions. What's the answer?

Are there any others, besides conservatives, who are even interested in this story?

13 posted on 01/23/2011 9:20:31 AM PST by donna (Imagine...women who honor men enough not to tempt them.)
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To: who knows what evil?

And yet Catholics vote for Democrats all the time. I’m not Catholic bashing here - I’m just pointing it out.


14 posted on 01/23/2011 9:41:26 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Bringing children to America without immigration documents is child abuse. Let's end it.)
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To: jodiluvshoes

What shock? What outrage? I don’t think you can prick the conscience of the pro-aborts. Most Americans would like to pretend this isn’t happening. Their eyes skip over these articles if they still bother to read the newspapers. The tv news limits coverage so as not to offend the sensibilities of their viewers. Prediction: within 5 years all those involved will have been promoted to higher and better paying positions in the city and state.


15 posted on 01/23/2011 9:55:01 AM PST by Oratam
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To: jodiluvshoes

The majority of leftists in this country are fully aware of what is happening and they just don’t care. If I ever find leftists trapped in a burning car, I will push the door shut to make sure the vermin properly burn to death.

These...things...are not human and I refuse to treat them as such. They are a disease and there is only one thing to do with a disease!


16 posted on 01/23/2011 9:59:20 AM PST by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: Oratam

We carpet-bombed Berlin to stop the war and the holocaust.

The same must be done with the leftists. Do not spare a single one of these vermin. Quarantine the disease!


17 posted on 01/23/2011 10:02:10 AM PST by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: Hardastarboard
And yet Catholics vote for Democrats all the time. I’m not Catholic bashing here - I’m just pointing it out.

New England Catholics are big-time supporters of Barack Obama. I asked a conservative Catholic (I actually found one) and asked him why they vote for pro-abort candidates...his reply? "I have no idea."

18 posted on 01/23/2011 10:13:43 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: jodiluvshoes
what's with the collecting feet in jars thing?

For what possible palatable reason would this ghoul do this?

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19 posted on 01/23/2011 10:13:54 AM PST by Elle Bee
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To: Venturer
And a host of others who voted to allow the killing of infants in payment for a vote.

What I don't get is the young women I knew in the 70's who always insisted, pounding the table, "I want the freedom to choose for myself! I want that right!!" (Of course, I didn't marry any of them ..... it was a hell of a bad time to be a guy with a conscience back then, running around dating all these young women who would eventually say, "I am a feminist!!! Get used to it!!"s)

But I also know a woman only slightly younger than me -- one of those same women, fiftyish now, who married just a few years ago, and she still says the same thing. One husband, no kids, working, conservative on many issues and ..... still a Gloria Steinem on this issue.

Probably just as well I never married; I just don't understand women ..... or else Betty Friedan did a really good job, Communist apparatchik she was (oh, you didn't know that? -- no, she didn't quit college to follow a guy, that was a lie -- she quit to go to work for the Party, uyup!), screwing over American domestic life and cutting off a generation's worth of babies and jacking up divorce rates. Good Communist mole job, militant sister!! You've got the bourgeoisie chasing their tails now! Fantastic damage to their morale and fertility -- twenty tank divisions couldn't approach the damage you did to our Main Enemy! Comrade Obama is proud of you!

20 posted on 01/23/2011 10:37:02 AM PST by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: jodiluvshoes
The grand jury's indictment read as one of the most disgusting litanies of murder we've seen in all of western culture.

For over two decades Kermitt Gosnell illegally sold prescriptions by day, and on the side, induced early delivery in expectant, indigent, and immigrant mothers. When those induced deliveries did not kill the child off, Gosnell would then either snip the spinal cord with a pair of scissors, slit the throat of the child, or have an assistant (usually unlicensed) do the same.

The women who survived these procedures on at least two occasions fared no better, and now the nation knows that this serial killer will, with any justice at all, go away for the rest of his life. At least he should.

As news of Gosnell's West Philadelphia "practice" made headlines this week you could not help but be moved by the torture, pain, and death this person caused.

The outrage was justifiable.

The discussions of how he was allowed to operate under the radar screen for so long were more than valid. Legitimate questions that were raised by the grand jury deserve answers, and the tax-payers of Pennsylvania need to know that such animals will be dealt with harshly, efficiently, and my preference woul d be--permanently.

Gosnell's last state inspection, according to public records, was in 1993. The general state of things at his clinic location seemed to verify this as human remains and medical waste were stored in boxes in the basement dating from that time. The stories of how he had allowed women to bleed out in the same facilities where his cats would urinate and defecate have been confirmed by multiple women.

He was a monster. He was out of control. He deserves justice to the fullest measure--even if that were to mean the state took his life as a result.

It was as I was reading the details of the procedures he seemed to prefer to perform that I was suddenly struck by an overwhelming question that has not yet gone from my mind.

Why are we so outraged now?

The truth is, the procedure Gosnell preferred is not new. Third term, especially "late term," abortions are performed the same way in overwhelming numbers.

Commonly referred to as "partial birth abortions" the procedure begins the same was as the "Gosnell abortion." Inducing labor and beginning the delivery of the child is where most of the children are lost in both procedures. As many as 75% of the children lose their lives in the process of early induced labor. Leaving roughly 25% of the children involved to have their lives terminated through an additional step.

In partial birth abortion, the child is delivered to within two inches of being free of the birth canal. In the "Gosnell" he delivered the child completely.

But from that point on, little difference between the procedures existed.

Scissors would be used to puncture the base of the skull and to snip the spinal cord. On some occasions then the brains would be crushed and suctioned.

In other words, while Gosnell was collecting jars of tiny feet, severed from the babies he ended the lives of, abortion practitioners from coast to coast were performing the eerily similar procedures. And 100% of them done with the backing of the National Organization for Women, the National Abortion Rights Action League, and a long list of U.S. Senators, including then Senator Barack Obama.

It was State Senator Obama just a few years previous who had also called for votes on three occasions, in a committee that he chaired, in meetings that he had called, in which the life of a born child was in equal jeopardy to the ones Gosnell delivered.

The issue was a debate over whether or not Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn, Illinois (a hospital operated by the denomination of Obama's church) could continue a practice in which a woman's labor could be induced weeks ahead of delivery. Roughly 75% of the children would die in the process, leaving roughly 25% who survived.

Instead of snipping spinal cords, the hospital would leave the children in the now infamous "soiled utility closet" to perish from exposure and neglect. Sometimes these children would expire in 45 minutes. Many times the children would struggle for life for the full 8 hours of a nurse's shift. And on multiple occasions the children would live for nearly a day.

Jill Stanek, one of the pediatric nurses who worked in the department while this practice was on going later testified before Obama's committee.

Obama's response? (According to Stanek?)

Roughly paraphrased: If a woman entered the hospital with the intent of seeking an abortion, then it was the woman's choice to allow that child to live or die. (Should it survive the induced labor.)

To be clear President Obama is the one and only ever elected federal office holder that has voted in favor of such procedures, and he did so three times, on the record.

All of which leaves me puzzled.

Why is Gosnell a monster, if so many people, including our own president believe it to be the fullest expression of "women's rights" to simply do what he was doing?

Any ideas?

21 posted on 01/23/2011 2:28:21 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

I can make a guess. This guy took the practice of abortion to a level that no one had ever imagined. Also, most people didn’t know what partial birth abortion was until recently.


22 posted on 01/23/2011 4:55:04 PM PST by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

You are probably right


23 posted on 01/23/2011 6:21:25 PM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: jodiluvshoes

>> Why the shock, Why the outrage, Why now?

Because he was a tacky abortionist.


24 posted on 01/23/2011 6:27:24 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: jodiluvshoes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1349868/Dr-Kermit-Gosnell-Woman-forced-abortion-House-Horrors-clinic.html


25 posted on 01/23/2011 6:28:54 PM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: jodiluvshoes

The “mothers” of these murdered babies are accessories to these murders. They slinked into this stinking Hellspawn den and wanted that 8th month baby in their womb killed by any means necessary. This evil rat bastard took their money and got out the scissors and razor blade and took care of their problem. I think Satan is impressed.


26 posted on 01/23/2011 7:46:58 PM PST by hatfieldmccoy (The Obama beat down of America continues)
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To: lentulusgracchus
Very interesting post it touches on so many significant but taboo topics.
First, the female vitriol over any restriction on abortions is a power issue. In the early 70’ s the ideological foundation of the feminist brain meld mantra was implanted. T his narrative runs something like this; males have organized the oppression of women via patriarchal social structures. One of the biggest of these constructs is marriage and maternity by which women are restricted to the role of child bearer and domestic serf. Abortion on demand up to the day of delivery is, therefore, a critical way for women to seize control of their power and control and embrace their own sexuality without an male paternal control. This mindset has percolated though society from Ivy and Seven Sisters elites down to lower working classes. Parents of daughters in the last 30 years will be acquainted with the mindset by the teen female battle cry of “nobody is going to tell me what to do” and with the coed battle cry “it's my life and my body”.
Considering the societal chaos these attitudes have sown (illegitimacy rates now at around 40per cent nationally and at 20 per cent for whites)
Along with the remarkable number of fetal terminations and a divorce rate hovering around 50 per cent one may be forgiven for believing some degree of conspiracy was involved. The people such as Friedan, Mackinnon, Abzug, et al have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
The finale is the persistent campaign to delegitimitcze traditional male personalities. From adept Oprafied pseudo sensitivity as being the new normal to constant hostility and denigration of normal male behavior in popular culture it is all part of the grinding campaign to socialize, collectivized, and feminize society.
One final question is why the proponents of this campaign also go out of their way to be sympathizers with Islam which loathes everything they stand for. The reason has to be rooted in a profound hatred of this country and the West in general.
27 posted on 01/23/2011 8:47:28 PM PST by robowombat
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To: Clintonfatigued
George Tiller (the abortion doctor that was murdered in church) had a web site that was bizarre. He had photos of the aborted babies in christening gowns, with the mother sitting next to them. There was some guy that was supposed to be the priest and there was a photo of him in some kind of formal priestly robe. He looked like he was possessed, and I don't say this lightly.

The sad truth is many people know exactly what an abortion is. They don't care. This is about eugenics, although they will not admit it. They don't fight for the "right to choose" because they believe in "freedom of choice." They want abortion legal because they believe it reduces the number of inferior people producing more inferior people.

People like Bill and Melinda Gates, and many others, are involved in a eugenics movement. However, they cannot call it eugenics. The goals haven't changed since Margaret Sanger; they sell it differently.

28 posted on 01/23/2011 9:29:52 PM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: jodiluvshoes

Mental Images of Bergen Belsen come to mind. EWWWWWWWW.


29 posted on 01/24/2011 4:54:53 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (The candidate they smear and ridicule the most is the one they fear the most.)
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To: IMR 4350

I think this Gosnell guy is black.


30 posted on 01/24/2011 5:16:41 AM PST by 3catsanadog (If healthcare reform is passed, 41 years old will be the new 65 YO.)
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To: 3catsanadog

He is.

That’s why I said Hollywood would “FICTIONALIZE” a movie about a right winger wanting to exterminate blacks.


31 posted on 01/24/2011 7:44:38 AM PST by IMR 4350
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