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Monster snowstorms still spell global warming (Libs still trying to push the Global Warming hoax)
cnn ^ | 1/27/2011 | (Lib) Michio Kaku

Posted on 01/27/2011 5:34:31 PM PST by tobyhill

The weather seems to be going berserk, with more snow dumped on our beleaguered Northeastern cities in a month than in a year, paralyzing business and our lives. Records are being broken even as we speak.

Common sense says that it's the freezing cold that is behind the freaky weather. But physics says otherwise.

Basically, snowstorms in this region arise from the collision of cold Arctic air from Canada moving south and bumping up against warm, moist air from the Gulf of Mexico, causing water vapor to condense and freeze and then form snowstorms, which travel up the Northeast corridor.

Among many factors, the amount of snow dumped is largely driven by the amount of moisture in humid air and not so much the temperature, and this seems to go against common sense. (For example, if we are making ice cubes, the amount of water in the ice tray, not the temperature, determines how much ice we can make. If we crank down the temperature dial in our freezer, this simply makes the ice freeze faster but does not increase the amount of ice produced.)

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1 posted on 01/27/2011 5:34:34 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Wow, the earth musta been really REALLY hot during the ice ages


2 posted on 01/27/2011 5:35:45 PM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: tobyhill

Lies, lies, and more lies.


3 posted on 01/27/2011 5:36:16 PM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: tobyhill

Didn’t see this coming.


4 posted on 01/27/2011 5:37:00 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: tobyhill

Backpedal Bullstalin spew.

10 years ago the rhetoric (especially in England) was that children today would never see snowfall.

They are lying. They are playing on “our” fears. They are evil. They are unwilling to admit that they were wrong and deceptive.


5 posted on 01/27/2011 5:37:32 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: tobyhill
"Among many factors, the amount of snow dumped is largely driven by the amount of moisture in humid air and not so much the temperature, and this seems to go against common sense. "

Then wouldn't they be called floods instead of snowstorms?

6 posted on 01/27/2011 5:37:45 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Democrats truly are the party of unintended consequences. Stupid is as stupid does.)
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To: tobyhill

If I see one more blame these monster storms on global warming I will tell the offending writer to take a shovel and go shovel the “global warming!”


7 posted on 01/27/2011 5:39:28 PM PST by Biggirl ("The Best Of Times, The Worse Of Times", Charles Dickens)
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To: silverleaf
Sweltering!
8 posted on 01/27/2011 5:39:30 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Democrats truly are the party of unintended consequences. Stupid is as stupid does.)
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To: tobyhill

Feels more like Global Cooling to me.


9 posted on 01/27/2011 5:40:16 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

40 years ago, the same liberals were saying we were heading into a new (man-made) ice age. This must be it.


10 posted on 01/27/2011 5:42:06 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: a fool in paradise

I remember that; could be it a lot late though.


11 posted on 01/27/2011 5:43:41 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: tobyhill

>> Michio Kaku: But physics says otherwise.

Sorry jackwagon, physics has little to do with climate voodoo.


12 posted on 01/27/2011 5:45:27 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: tobyhill

Back in the winter of 1964-65, Syracuse, where I was then in elementary school, experienced a blizzard that shut down every school in central New York for a week. This in a town that has been dealing with heavy snowfall for hundreds of years.

The snow was more than three feet deep on level ground. I made a tunnel from our driveway to the center of the front yard; probably 20 feet. At the end of the tunnel I made a room, maybe five feet in diameter. The roof caved in the second day I worked on it.

In the winter of 1970 or ‘71, I walked to the school bus stop at -27°F.

This is nothing new. The State-Run Media is trying to exploit mass ignorance on the part of their audience.


13 posted on 01/27/2011 5:45:40 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: tobyhill
I've lived in Central Florida for the last 18 years, and the last three winters have been the coldest that I can remember.

This year has been the coldest of all.

14 posted on 01/27/2011 5:47:18 PM PST by khenrich (And people thought Jimmy Carter was our worst president........)
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To: tobyhill
Every climate eventuality is due to global warming according to those who have invested in the crazy theory.

Too Hot- Global Warming

Too cold- Global Warming

Too much precipitation Global Warming

Not enough precipitation - Global Warming

Lots of Hurricanes Global Warming

Absence of Hurricanes Global Warming

So the Anthropogenic Global Warming people have the game rigged. I believe that each day that goes by, less and less people are buying into the nonsense.
15 posted on 01/27/2011 5:48:38 PM PST by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: tobyhill
Yes, but isn't it nice that all this global warming snowfall is doing negative feedback? White ground = increased reflection of solar radiation back to space = cooling.

Except - only man causes climate change. Only man can fix it.

16 posted on 01/27/2011 5:49:30 PM PST by heartwood
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To: All

“There is almost uniform agreement from both sides of the debate that the Earth is heating up, as carefully recorded by numerous ground stations and satellites.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110125/us_nm/us_alaska_death

I’m not sure the dead 14 year old boy would agree?


17 posted on 01/27/2011 5:51:27 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Utter nonsense.


18 posted on 01/27/2011 5:51:45 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: tobyhill
CNN: "The weather seems to be going berserk"

Me: "You got some snow."

19 posted on 01/27/2011 5:52:38 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: tobyhill

No, no no no no no. You had your chance when you said that the warm weather was being caused by global warming. You can’t have it both ways.


20 posted on 01/27/2011 5:53:07 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: Steely Tom

I remember that as well, we here in Assholechusetts had 6 foot bushes in front of house that we could not see because they were covered in snow!

Cyclical!


21 posted on 01/27/2011 5:53:55 PM PST by acapesket
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To: tobyhill

Out of curiosity, I went to Hartford history, here:

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KHFD/2011/1/1/CustomHistory.html?dayend=27&monthend=1&yearend=2011&req_city=NA&req_state=NA&req_statename=NA

I hope someone could check my numbers and interpretation.

I did month to date figures last year vs this year and found that this years average is 31 degrees and last year average was 37 degrees. Also, last years degree days was 34 to date in Jan while this year was 40.

Further, the average dew point last Jan was 22 and this year 15..indicating lower humidity.


22 posted on 01/27/2011 5:54:58 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: tobyhill
Common sense says that it's the freezing cold that is behind the freaky weather. But physics says otherwise.

It's amusing to see speculative long-range weather modeling with a side of data manipulation dignified with the term "physics."

23 posted on 01/27/2011 5:56:00 PM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: tobyhill

seems to be going berserk
dumped on our beleaguered
paralyzing
being broken
freaky weather
collision of cold Arctic air from Canada moving south and bumping up against
seems to go against common sense———

Such violent rhetoric to describe

a normal winter event...


24 posted on 01/27/2011 5:56:00 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: tobyhill

Bizzard of ‘78, Northwest Ohio

That was right at the peak of “the coming ice age” crap...


25 posted on 01/27/2011 5:56:24 PM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: NoGrayZone

“the amount of snow dumped is largely driven by the amount of moisture in humid air and not so much the temperature”

That’s why August always brings deep snows to the south.


26 posted on 01/27/2011 5:57:07 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: tobyhill

Aw Jeez. Not that Global Warming crap again.


27 posted on 01/27/2011 5:58:21 PM PST by McGruff (If you repeat a lie enough times some idiots will believe it.)
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To: acapesket

I knew there had to be others who remembered it. It was amazing.

Of course, there was not one single story, in the media of that time, that it presaged the beginning of the end of life on earth. There was also not one story that tried to make the argument that the bitter-cold winter was the result of Earth getting warmer.

Of course, the news media was not loaded from top to bottom with stupid J-school graduate nitwits, either.


28 posted on 01/27/2011 5:59:52 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: tobyhill

When does weather become climate? 3 cold winters in a row and counting.


29 posted on 01/27/2011 6:01:04 PM PST by rsobin
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To: The KG9 Kid

American news anchors seem to be going berserk.


30 posted on 01/27/2011 6:06:04 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The biggest waste of brainpower is to want to change something that's not changeable. -Albert Brooks)
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To: truthguy
Everything is caused by global warming 600+ links
31 posted on 01/27/2011 6:06:12 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Rebelbase

Awww, you poor people. Must be heck shoveling all that global warming down there!


32 posted on 01/27/2011 6:06:30 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Democrats truly are the party of unintended consequences. Stupid is as stupid does.)
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To: tobyhill
Among many factors, the amount of snow dumped is largely driven by the amount of moisture in humid air and not so much the temperature,

That is nonsense. It takes cold to turn that moisture into snow. A warmer atmosphere in the winter would mean there'd be either less precipitation of any kind (due to the temperature not being cold enough to cause the moisture to condense) or torrential rains instead of blizzards.

If the earth is getting warmer, where did the cold come from?

33 posted on 01/27/2011 6:08:01 PM PST by raisetheroof ("To become Red is to become dead --- gradually." Alexander Solzhenitsyn)
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To: truthguy

And the solution to Global Warming?

Destroy capitalism

Kill humans

Humanity is a virus infecting the Earth Mother Goddess Gaia.

That’s what the greenies really believe.


34 posted on 01/27/2011 6:08:56 PM PST by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: Rebelbase

Awww, you poor people. Must be heck shoveling all that global warming down there!


35 posted on 01/27/2011 6:10:40 PM PST by NoGrayZone (Democrats truly are the party of unintended consequences. Stupid is as stupid does.)
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To: tobyhill

I was trying to recall earlier today. Wasn’t there a prediction by the global warmers that there would never be snow in New York (???) again?

I may have the wrong state. But I seem to recall some such prediction.


36 posted on 01/27/2011 6:10:40 PM PST by gitmo ( The democRats drew first blood. It's our turn now.)
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To: truthguy
Similarly: Crazed right-winger apolitical loon left-winger shoots liberal moderate dem politician [plus Republican judge and others] -- Tea Party's fault Tea Party's fault Tea Party's fault still Tea Party's fault, dammit!
37 posted on 01/27/2011 6:19:07 PM PST by Hunton Peck (I am required to warn you that this metaphor is registered as a deadly weapon in 32 states.)
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To: Steely Tom
Back in the winter of 1964-65, Syracuse

I grew up east of you there. After the blizzard was over and the roads were plowed, I walked on the snow out to where the driveway is underneath to shovel out the driveway. I slowly slid a straw broom handle straight down in the snow until I tapped the roof of my father's 62 Ford so I had an idea where to start digging.

38 posted on 01/27/2011 6:20:11 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: a fool in paradise; SandRat; All
"40 years ago, the same liberals were saying we were heading into a new (man-made) ice age. This must be it."


39 posted on 01/27/2011 6:20:43 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: heartwood; All
"Except - only man causes climate change. Only man can fix it."


40 posted on 01/27/2011 6:22:38 PM PST by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: tobyhill
Physicists at the top of their fields usually don't know jacksh*t about ANYTHING else. Which means that this guy is pretty much an idiot savant. Which means he doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to the weather.

I should know - I was a physics major when I started college. If I hadn't quit to learn real stuff, I shudder to think what a freaking moron I would be about the world.

41 posted on 01/27/2011 6:23:17 PM PST by kiryandil
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To: tobyhill
Bullcrap. It's a La Nina year. The East always gets hammered in a La Nina. That's also why we had 60 degrees and clear today here.
42 posted on 01/27/2011 6:24:22 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: tobyhill

Uhhhh, it still has to be cold to snow.


43 posted on 01/27/2011 6:24:22 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: tobyhill

“Michio Kaku: But physics says otherwise.”

Yeah, sure - that’s why all the climatologists a decade ago were predicting ten years of unusually cold and snowy winters, right?


44 posted on 01/27/2011 6:26:02 PM PST by Stosh
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To: Crim
I was in Columbus for that.

Absolutely the worst weather event I've ever witnessed.

As I recall, the wind was blowing 70 mph...from the north in Dayton...from the south in Columbus...and Washington Court House, the center of the storm, recorded the lowest barometric pressure ever in the U.S.

Stuck in an airport motel without power for four days. The car was up to his hubs in ice in the parking lot.

I'll never forget it.

45 posted on 01/27/2011 6:27:26 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

Heh heh..arent you glad it’s getting warmer?

I still live in NW Ohio...


46 posted on 01/27/2011 6:30:59 PM PST by Crim (The Obama Doctrine : A doctrine based on complete ignorance,applied with extreme incompetence..)
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To: tobyhill

Warm globally, cool locally!

Those Leftist idiots keep making my parody of, “think globally, act locally” into reality!


47 posted on 01/27/2011 6:37:46 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: tobyhill

Anyone know Michio Kaku’s email address so we can flood his mailbox with anti-global warming emails?


48 posted on 01/27/2011 6:42:37 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: a fool in paradise

A couple years ago a friend told me that the North Pole would be totally ice free by 2020.


49 posted on 01/27/2011 6:50:09 PM PST by LiveFree99
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To: Crim
It isn't NW Ohio, but I lived in Cincinnati for five years back in the sixties. Loved the city and the area.

My favorite memory of NW Ohio is a drug store in Van Wert that served a near-perfect breakfast -- complete with fresh-squeezed orange juice.

50 posted on 01/27/2011 6:51:33 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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