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$200 Oil on the Horizon?
Conservatives4palin ^ | 1/28/2011 | Doug Brady

Posted on 01/28/2011 9:00:43 PM PST by unseen1

Via Eric Bolling of Fox News:

The Suez Canal and the Suez Canal pipeline transport about 4.5 million barrels of oil per day between the two, so when oil investors/traders see protesters on tanks in the Suez, it creates panic because they’re concerned about the delicate balance between supply and demand on the world’s oil.

Any disruption in oil supply spikes prices, and these events are certainly cause for disruption.

Also very important is the geographic location — just across the canal is Saudi Arabia — the world’s largest producer of oil. If this unrest spills over into Saudi Arabia, prices could double to $200/barrel!

The effect on the U.S. economy would be disastrous and hamper the economic recovery.

I am not as pessimistic as Bolling (yet), but the situation in the Middle East is explosive, and the potential is certainly there for economic disaster. If the Mubarak regime is overthrown and replaced by a fundamentalist group like the Muslim Brotherhood, anything is possible up to and including a shutdown of the Suez Canal. If, as Bolling suggests, this unrest spreads into Saudi Arabia, all bets are off. There are already reports that the unrest in Egypt is spreading to Jordan and beyond. Some worry that the instability could spread further to other OPEC countries such as Libya and Algeria. And, if we throw a newly nuclear-armed Iran into the mix, Bolling’s prediction of $200 oil may be on the low side.

None of this is good news for the fledgling economic recovery struggling to gain steam in the U.S. If oil prices rise to even $125 and stay there, a double dip recession becomes more likely than not, and anything north of $150 virtually guarantees it. Meanwhile, our clueless president keeps his suicidal drilling ban in place while he dreamily muses about solar shingles and windmills. Fantasy is no substitute for an actual energy policy, yet that is all this administration offers.

What, precisely, is it going to take for the Obama Administration to wake up from their ideology-induced stupor and realize that we need to drill here and drill now? We need to be developing all of our domestic energy supplies (e.g. natural gas, oil, nuclear, coal, etc. ) with all deliberate haste. Is Team Obama so afraid to admit that Governor Palin is right about this (and has been right all along) that they’re willing to risk economic disaster? It certainly appears that way. And make no mistake, if we see sustained oil prices of $200 or higher, the recession from which we just emerged will seem like a walk in the park.

The only reason for optimism is that the 2012 election is only 21 months away. If, as appears increasingly likely, the Obama Administration does nothing in four years to develop a realistic energy policy, the voters will know who’s to blame. Indeed the only energy policy coming from this administration that I can discern is to do everything possible to prevent the development of those domestic energy resources that, you know, actually work. Presumably this is the approach Obama believes will help us “Win The Future”. In 2012 voters will have the opportunity to take a different approach.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: egypt; energy; fud; oil; palin; panic; qe2; scareyourselftodeath; stimulus; yeswecan
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Like Carter, Obama will be done in by his failures in energy policy among other failures.

I think the left is going to get very tired during the next 22 months of hearing over and over and over that Palin was right.

1 posted on 01/28/2011 9:00:45 PM PST by unseen1
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To: unseen1

I think $300


2 posted on 01/28/2011 9:07:50 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: unseen1

I think $300


3 posted on 01/28/2011 9:07:52 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: unseen1

If oil goes sky high and shortages develop,then Obama’s drilling ban is going to come back and bite him in the ass real hard.


4 posted on 01/28/2011 9:08:25 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Freddd

Weird how no one reported on Obama lifting the ban on the Muslim Brotherhood leader, than Bush wouldn’t allow into this country, dontcha think?


5 posted on 01/28/2011 9:09:19 PM PST by Freddd (CNN is down to Three Hundred Thousand viewers. But they worked for it.)
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To: unseen1

Hmmm,

Oil shale? - Messiah says no.

Gulf of Mex? - Messiah says no.

Alaska? - Messiah says no.

At least he’s consistent; consistently short-sighted.


6 posted on 01/28/2011 9:09:56 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Freddd

$300 will give us a real depression.A true economic collapse.


7 posted on 01/28/2011 9:10:17 PM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: unseen1

Good thing that obama put Ken salazar in charge of our offshore drilling. He effectively clamped down on all new drilling with the permitting process. Just don’t issue new permits. Problem solved. Gee, I guess they never thought that the mideast might blow up and our foreign oil supply would dry up.

Democrats want us all to freeze in the dark, but the elite leaders will be nice and cozy this winter.


8 posted on 01/28/2011 9:11:01 PM PST by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: unseen1

If there is a way to go over the head of the clown in the WH to drill our own oil...it’s time to do it!


9 posted on 01/28/2011 9:12:57 PM PST by lonestar
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To: unseen1

It’s coming, probably by summer if this crap keeps up. Figure on $6 (or more) gas also.


10 posted on 01/28/2011 9:13:44 PM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: unseen1

$400.00 anybody


11 posted on 01/28/2011 9:14:52 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right)
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To: Freddd

I wish bush the first and bush the second as well as Clinton and Obama would have had more faith in the Americian style of government and promoted that form of government across the world like IKE and Truman did to Japan and Germany. Instead of excepting the left’s narrative of multiculturalism and saying one form of democracy is much like the other. If they would have insisted that countries taking aid adopt our Constitutional ideas the radicals would not have the power they now have in the middle east. instead they embraced dictators, strongmen and weak democracy without a bill of rights or a seperation of powers.


12 posted on 01/28/2011 9:15:57 PM PST by unseen1
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To: Farmer Dean

Until gas in $5 a gallon or more, Obama will not be happy.


13 posted on 01/28/2011 9:16:08 PM PST by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: unseen1
Obama conversion into Carter 2.0 is almost complete, all he needs now is an oil and hostage crisis.
14 posted on 01/28/2011 9:18:32 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: unseen1

The thing I think the overly pessismistic are assuming too quickly is that the same kind of revolutions will necessarily take place in Saudi Arabia or any other nation with oil. As backward and badly governed as the oil rich arab nations are, just having the luxuries they have means that kind of revolution is highly unlikely. People there simply do not have as much to be angry about-for many arabs of the north, i.e. Egypt, Jordan, etc, the resentment towards the oil rich arabs of the south is probably a part of what is driving their furvor.

Even if we did have lose access to the Mid East, then there should be no reason why we cant just immediately amp up our own oil production (and maybe start looking to other energy sources, naturally a subject of debate) and use some of our reserves if we really need to. Worse case scenario should be brief periods where oil is not readily available in excess, and we cant afford to make fun of canadians anymore, followed by periods where we have our own oil.


15 posted on 01/28/2011 9:19:05 PM PST by emax
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To: emax
if you worse case occurs do you understand that it will destroy the economy and send it into a nosedive that we will not get out of for a decade or longer. then all we needs is a hike in interest rates and our debt defaults.
16 posted on 01/28/2011 9:24:44 PM PST by unseen1
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To: doc1019

I don’t think so. the economy will roll over before $5.00/gal. the decreas ein demand form a 25% unemployment rate will keep the price of gas down to around $4.00-$3.75/gal.

As the present recession showed in 2008 the economy just can not handle $4.00/gal gas. Loans go unpaid, homes get forclosed on, people go hungry etc etc.


17 posted on 01/28/2011 9:27:10 PM PST by unseen1
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To: emax
As backward and badly governed as the oil rich arab nations are, just having the luxuries they have means that kind of revolution is highly unlikely.

You are clueless about the middle east.

I imagine the House of Saud has probably got a contengiency team (with Americans on it) on 24-7 by now.

Saudi has always been unstable. And violent.

/johnny

18 posted on 01/28/2011 9:30:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: doc1019
If gas hits $5.00/gal, the Obammunist will not be happy. At least he won't be happy with what happens after it hits that mark.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

19 posted on 01/28/2011 9:33:18 PM PST by wku man (Still holding my breath, but exhaling a bit after Nov. 2...)
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To: unseen1

“Also very important is the geographic location — just across the canal is Saudi Arabia...”

Wow, who ever wrote this is not all that well acquainted with geography.

How embarrassing.


20 posted on 01/28/2011 9:34:56 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: unseen1
The longer we wait to drill, the longer it'll take to crank up again.
A lot of experienced people in the industry have moved on.
Takes a long time to train people to do the work, if you can find some that are crazy enough to work the hours and hang in.
21 posted on 01/28/2011 9:35:45 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: unseen1

In California I expect it to hit $4.00 for regular soon in the metropolitan areas if it isn’t there already.

I think anything above $4.00 will hit a lot of people very hard. There will be a lot of parked cars at home on the weekends. Five dollars will kill the economy and nobody will drive.

I haven’t checked the restaurants in my neighborhood at night lately. I know for a while there were still a lot of people going. During the weekend day there are less dining now.


22 posted on 01/28/2011 9:38:00 PM PST by archivist007
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To: JRandomFreeper

I know there is violence and instability in every mid east nation, I am aware that anything can happen at any given time. And that there is not really any Arab nation where people are content at all with their governments.

I only meant about relative liklihoods and unliklihoods. There is a reason these uorisings have now engulfed a nation like Egypt but not Saudi Arabia, despite the fact that Egypt has much larger population and a more powerful military.

And the UAE;s population is prediminantly foreign workers from South and SE Asia whose sole priority is supporting their families back home. The actual Arabs, a good percentage of whom are ridiculously rich and overindulged, are the minority.


23 posted on 01/28/2011 9:38:39 PM PST by emax
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To: BobL

Good. Actually I want it to go a hell of a lot higher than that.

While I personally will be hurt by it, it will make the Dems start shrieking in pain as their constituents start hanging them from the nearest tall objects. They own this crisis.


24 posted on 01/28/2011 9:40:15 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: Spktyr

“Good. Actually I want it to go a hell of a lot higher than that.”

I was going to say that too...but didn’t want to be first. I can easily take gas prices doubling (we live cheap, but have a decent income).

Yep, there will be hell to pay for the Dems playing games with our energy security. And there is no way in hell that the Tea Party Reps are going to allow some kind of bailout for the drivers that cannot afford the gas. They are just out of luck - perhaps they will think a bit harder next time they vote.


25 posted on 01/28/2011 9:45:33 PM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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To: trumandogz

Indeed, i thought it was like elementary geography that the Suez Canal is between Egypt and the Sinai.

And what is with the assumption that Saudi Arabia could cut off all the access to our Mid East oil anyway ? They could force us not to stop using Iraqi Oil by getting it through the straights of Hormuz so we would still have Iraq as a reliable source for oil-which ironically remains one of the truly great effects of the Iraqi War. Nor could they force us away from the Suez Canal.

And also remember that even the most rabidly Islamic govt that could possibly rule Saudi Arabia is not going to just suddenly stop selling us oil when that is the sole thing that keeps them from becoming like Somalia. Anyone who really knows Saudi Arabia knows that the current govt is ideologically quite similar to Taliban but it didnt stop them.


26 posted on 01/28/2011 9:47:09 PM PST by emax
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To: BobL

Remember, the soaring gas prices were one of the memes that the Democrats used to win in 2006. Right now their pet media is suppressing the return of the meme, but at, say $7-8 per gallon or so (if not more) there won’t be any way for the media to keep ignoring it. They will be forced to cover it and they won’t be able to spin it, as everyone ‘knows’ that the President is responsible for gas prices (thanks to the Dems earlier use of the meme) - and this time the President is a Dem.

The higher the better - the longer the lesson will last and the less people will be interested in any blockage of the exploitation of domestic energy sources.


27 posted on 01/28/2011 9:49:40 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: unseen1

People voted for this. Obama will cause more damage then carter ever dreamed. Idiots drooling whilst watching TV elected him.

The left hears nothing because they control all the media and ALL TV - enabled by idiots who watch it and keep them in business.


28 posted on 01/28/2011 9:49:59 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: emax

I work in oil and gas marketing. I am not a high-powered consultant type, but one thing I have noticed over the years is that the market reacts just as strongly to an EXPECTATION of a disruption of supply as it does to an actual disruption. I’ve told my wife to make sure she keeps her gas tank full.


29 posted on 01/28/2011 10:02:34 PM PST by AlwaysThinking (Pray, Christian 2 Chron 7:14)
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To: unseen1

That could all be true but there were so many other factors as well, the key one being people idiodically putting themsevles into debt and not paying it off combined with banks preying on said idiots. That was a factor in the more recent recessions; it was not simply a matter of gas going up.

I dont deny that if things keep going the way they are going that economic times will be very challenging for a lot of people. The issue is if people can have some inkling of personal responsibility and if we can get adults in charge of the white house who see that 1 we do in fact have other energy sources and 2 lets use them for G-d’s sake.


30 posted on 01/28/2011 10:03:15 PM PST by emax
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To: emax

Anyone who cuts off the Suez is going to have the US, UK, France, Austailia, Canada and every European military up their a$$ within a day.


31 posted on 01/28/2011 10:07:21 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: AlwaysThinking

Thank you for letting me know that. I actually did not realize that was the case. Therefore I will keep that in mind and remind myself to not take gas for granted ever- you especially shouldnt be doing that when we dont even have an adult in the white house to control our oil availability.

Luckily for me, I will be working as a graduate student in small towns in Virginia and Tenesee where people do have some sort of responsibility and self reliance and so oil shortages and gas hikes wont cause the quite clusterf__k we will see on other parts of the nation where people are used to having govt clean up after them.


32 posted on 01/28/2011 10:08:05 PM PST by emax
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To: unseen1

mmmm good, smells like get some time


33 posted on 01/28/2011 10:10:10 PM PST by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: trumandogz
I stopped reading the article at that point and started scrolling through the replies to see who else caught it. You're the winner.........at POST #20!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know who's worse, Bolling & FOX for putting it out there or Brady & Conservatives4palin for regurgitating it.

Doesn't do much for the credibility of either writer or their organizations.

34 posted on 01/28/2011 10:11:24 PM PST by Roccus (Joe Biden.....America's only living brain donor.)
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To: trumandogz

That is also true and let us not forget the Chinese govt as well. They depend on Mid East Oil WAY more than we do, switching to other oil options right now isnt an option for them at all like it is for us. That is why even if Iran threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz that threat would only last temporarily. One of the good things, to be sure, about a government that straddles the line between Communist and a Ruthless Interpretation of Capitalism-their priority is self preservation and productivity of their own. Something we can capitalize on if we are smart and know what we are doing,, ( I think you know the operative word in that sentence ).


35 posted on 01/28/2011 10:13:39 PM PST by emax
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To: Rembrandt

He is not short sighted. He was “elected” in a coup to destroy America and ALL of TV and the drooling idiots who watch it love him.


36 posted on 01/28/2011 10:15:21 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: Roccus

Such a blatant error in geography for a person that is attempting to write an article on geopolitics is the equivalent of article on astronomy claiming that the sun revolves around the moon.


37 posted on 01/28/2011 10:17:27 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: unseen1

“...without a bill of rights or a separation of powers.”

Like Obam-America today? Do you think we have any rule of law anymore? The elites planned this and are looting America’s wealth from the middle class and upper middle class. The Bush clan does not like Palin - they are part of the same crowd.


38 posted on 01/28/2011 10:22:33 PM PST by Frantzie (Slaves do not have freedom only the illusion of freedom & their cable TV to drool at)
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To: unseen1

Right on!


39 posted on 01/28/2011 10:28:19 PM PST by Dec31,1999 (Have you read the Bagavad Gita? Well, you should. :) It's exactly where we are now.)
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To: Spktyr
Good. Actually I want it to go a hell of a lot higher than that.

While I personally will be hurt by it, it will make the Dems start shrieking in pain as their constituents start hanging them from the nearest tall objects. They own this crisis.

Your comment echoes my sentiments which I've expressed many time s over the last few years, "We need another 9-11 to wake up America. This country has become complacent on what's important to America."

The "We will never forget crowd" forgot with the next episode of Who Wants to be a Millionaire.

40 posted on 01/28/2011 10:35:05 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: trumandogz
...is the equivalent of article on astronomy claiming that the sun revolves around the moon.

Awww c'mon......everybody knows that the sun revolves around Obama. The science is settled.

41 posted on 01/28/2011 10:35:33 PM PST by Roccus (Joe Biden.....America's only living brain donor.)
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To: Freddd

$300 sounds possible. Oil prices will zoom. And Ohbummer won’t allow us to build more nuclear power plants


42 posted on 01/28/2011 10:43:12 PM PST by Cronos
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To: emax

you hit the nail on the head, however note that even in Saudi Arabia there is a lot of discontent — the Shias, Ismailis, Boras etc. are discriminated against heavily, their holy shrines have been bulldozed. And amongst the Sunnis, there are a lot of poor, because the wealth of that kingdom is treated as the personal wealth of the Saudi royal family (3000 princes and counting). Furthermore, the various arab tribes regard the house of SAud as usurpers from the Nejd region who went on to conquer Hejaz and the rest of the Arabian plateau. Civil unrest is highly likely — in fact it was happening until the British idiot, Lawrence of Arabia helped out before WWI


43 posted on 01/28/2011 10:48:19 PM PST by Cronos
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To: JRandomFreeper; emax

Correct — what shocks me about Saudi Arabia is that there are still SAUDI nationals who are beggars. And they had a budget deficit a few years ago as the SAud family splurges on luxuries for themselves.


44 posted on 01/28/2011 10:50:42 PM PST by Cronos
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To: emax

the UAE. Yes, but that’s a bubble. The moment it bursts (and it will), the Emirates will return to being pearl fishermen.


45 posted on 01/28/2011 10:52:21 PM PST by Cronos
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To: emax
Lots of poor Arab Saudis over there. And the House of Saud has been riding a razor for a long time. I guess you don't personally remember 1964 or 1975.

/johnny

46 posted on 01/28/2011 10:58:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: unseen1

200 dollar oil....ever the fear card

will momentarily kill our economy as bad as 20% interest would

i will have a hard time surviving it

(chain of car washes)


47 posted on 01/28/2011 11:01:06 PM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: Cronos

I probably should have remebered there is still religious tension, I mean, a Mid East or Islamic nation without religious tension is like Never Never Land. And of course there ar emany very angry discontent people in Saudi Arabia, in Mid East nations there are always people who want to taje down and kill the current leaders and force themsevles into power. That is why there were turmoils and assasinations in Saudi Arabia, which I am aware of. In nations that rife with warring religions, sects of Islam, tribes, clans and families, discontent and murders and riots and rebellions and assinations are inevitable byproducts.

But having oil reserves vs not having oil reserves will still make huge differences I think. What makes it worse for people in oilless arab nations like Egypt or Jordan is the fact that America and a lot of other nations give the regimes support that is often seen as pointless. Although it is inane and dangerous and senseless that we do business with Saudis for our oil, in some ways our support of Egyptian and Jordanian regimes is actually far more shameful. Often the only thing we get in return for that is pledges to fight terorrism that originated in their nations, and they only follow said pledges when an actual terror attack does happen, like the 9-11 where numerous hijackers were fo course Egyptian. Often, the support we give Egypt and Jordan is completely unconditional, which magnifies the fury of the people. We often have to because the only other options are worse ones (Muslim Brotherhood) but the way we do it causes magnified tension as well.


48 posted on 01/28/2011 11:16:06 PM PST by emax
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To: wardaddy

“wax on, wax off” ; ~ )


49 posted on 01/28/2011 11:26:15 PM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: emax

There is no way in hell the Egyptian military could defend the Suez. It’s at sea level, in the middle of a desert and has no locks.


50 posted on 01/28/2011 11:27:29 PM PST by trumandogz
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