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Mubarak picks intelligence chief as Vice-President
Haaretz ^ | 17:41 29.01.11 | staff

Posted on 01/29/2011 8:05:30 AM PST by gandalftb

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To: gandalftb

That’s an outrageous comparison.


21 posted on 01/29/2011 8:35:03 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: gandalftb

i didnt start the thread but most were commenting there.

i picked this up from a veteran mid east journalist veteran.

John Simpson on BBC: “I’ve been through several revolutions, and I’ve never seen any leader succeed once it’s gone this far.This is a revolution”


22 posted on 01/29/2011 8:35:30 AM PST by sunmars
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To: gandalftb

Isolationist (from your Saddam comment), unwilling to provide proof that the Muslim Brotherhood isn’t a danger to our interests in Egypt, and now you can’t even take it when someone rightly points out your article was previously posted.

Greaaaat.


23 posted on 01/29/2011 8:36:53 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: Lazamataz
"You’re asking the US to back another Islamic theocracy."

Hardly, I am warning that if we don't push democracy, a theocracy will take over. Egypt is a muslim country, home of Zawahiri and most of the operations leadership of al qaeda. There will be a muslim government. We now get to help decide how radical it will be.

24 posted on 01/29/2011 8:37:06 AM PST by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: Lazamataz
"You’re asking the US to back another Islamic theocracy."

Hardly, I am warning that if we don't push democracy, a theocracy will take over. Egypt is a muslim country, home of Zawahiri and most of the operations leadership of al qaeda. There will be a muslim government. We now get to help decide how radical it will be.

25 posted on 01/29/2011 8:37:11 AM PST by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: gandalftb

I need more than your say-so that MB is mainstream.


26 posted on 01/29/2011 8:39:38 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: gandalftb

Don’t think re-shuffling the deck is going to work.


27 posted on 01/29/2011 8:40:04 AM PST by HollyB
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To: gandalftb
I'm having a hard time figuring out who the good guys are supposed to be.

Somebody tell me who the Democrats are cheering for so I'll know who to be against.

28 posted on 01/29/2011 8:40:15 AM PST by FReepaholic (WTF?)
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To: gandalftb; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ...

Obama’s already behind this uprising, 100%. He’s also trying to appear as a reasonable moderate by urging Mubarak to bring on democracy and economic opportunity as he’d promised. Mubarak’s response is to fill an office which had been kept vacant, probably illegally, for three decades, in order to point toward a peaceful transition in the event.

Obama’s previous interference, as we all remember, was in Costa Rica.

Before that, Kenya.


29 posted on 01/29/2011 8:40:50 AM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Lazamataz
"largely secular"

Where did I make that claim about the Muslim Brotherhood? Good grief. Are the Knights of Columbus "largely secular", too?

As I said in my many comments about the MB, they are not GENERALLY radicalized in Egypt, however, they are much more radicalized elsewhere.

30 posted on 01/29/2011 8:41:04 AM PST by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: Lazamataz
"largely secular"

Where did I make that claim about the Muslim Brotherhood? Good grief. Are the Knights of Columbus "largely secular", too?

As I said in my many comments about the MB, they are not GENERALLY radicalized in Egypt, however, they are much more radicalized elsewhere.

31 posted on 01/29/2011 8:41:10 AM PST by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: Lazamataz

The MB is the largest opposition party in the Egyptian government, with many elected officials all over Egypt. That qualifies as mainstream.


32 posted on 01/29/2011 8:43:09 AM PST by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: gandalftb

Al Jazeera saying the protestors will not accept anyone with anything to do with Mubarak and his henchmen and that includes Mubaraks 2 appointment.

The crowds are apparently getting bigger.

I am upgrading Egypt on Hollywood Crisisometer from “Windy Britney” to “Full Level Lohan” levels as things take a turn for worse.


33 posted on 01/29/2011 8:44:09 AM PST by sunmars
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"The Muslim Brotherhood is taking a hands of attitude in Egypt but not in Jordan. Look for trouble there. This genuinely is a popular uprising. Obama needs to see this and get behind it. We need to be on the right side of history. "

I agree with the points quoted above.

34 posted on 01/29/2011 8:45:35 AM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Good points.....from a PSYCHO :):). You're very correct. Jordan is a key player in the Middle East. The peace treaty with Israel and queen are widely disliked there.

If Jordan radicalizes, big, big trouble for Israel and America.

35 posted on 01/29/2011 8:46:42 AM PST by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: trisham
"That’s an outrageous comparison."

Subjectively yes, objectively no. Within the muslim society, the MB plays largely the same role as the K of C in America. What is outrageous is that the muslim society is so much more religiously driven that it can justify murder and the denial of basic human rights.

36 posted on 01/29/2011 8:50:50 AM PST by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: HollyB

Agreed, Egyptians will see Omar as a continuation of the dictatorship.


37 posted on 01/29/2011 8:53:01 AM PST by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: gandalftb

So you are asking us to embrace a GENERALLY radical non-secular Islamic group, as opposed to supporting the (probably doomed) Mubarik.

Are you nuts?


38 posted on 01/29/2011 8:53:53 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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To: gandalftb

this could go very bad, apparently all Cairo police stations have been raided by looters and protestors. Many many arms taken.

One little spark will be all this takes to flash this.

I pray to go we dont end up in a bloodbath.


39 posted on 01/29/2011 8:54:53 AM PST by sunmars
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To: gandalftb
The MB is the largest opposition party in the Egyptian government, with many elected officials all over Egypt. That qualifies as mainstream.

Are you Islamic, yourself? Only then could I understand your incredible reach.

That's like saying that Hamas is mainstream because they run Gaza.

Mainstream, to me, implies 'acceptable to western interests'. If you define mainstream as 'furthering radical islamic interests', you become an opponent of mine.

40 posted on 01/29/2011 8:57:44 AM PST by Lazamataz (If Illegal Aliens are Undocumented Workers, then Thieves are Undocumented Shoppers.)
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