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Food Riots: Is Bernanke Partially to Blame?
CNBC ^ | January 28,2011 | Larry Kudlow

Posted on 01/30/2011 2:57:50 PM PST by Hojczyk

Edited on 01/30/2011 3:10:01 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

As we know, massive popular unrest has broken out against autocratic governments in North Africa and the Arab world. Egypt is the biggest story. But to varying degrees, the people have taken to the streets in Algeria, Jordan, Libya, Morocco, and Yemen.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bernanke; economy; egypt; ethanol; federalreserve; food; foodcrisis; foodinsecurity; foodprices; foodriots; foodshortage; foodshortages; idiocy; kudlow; larrykudlow; lunacy; mtba; ntsa; stupidity; thefed; theqe2
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To: Hojczyk

He apparently has a nice beard and is therefore qualified.


21 posted on 01/30/2011 4:00:12 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Carley

-——The farmers switched to corn rather than wheat———

Reference please


22 posted on 01/30/2011 4:05:24 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: DuncanWaring
his practice of printing $100 billion per month weakens the US dollar and axiomatically raises prices for everything.

Unless the Egyptian currency is linked to the dollar, a weaker dollar wouldn't make their food more expensive.

23 posted on 01/30/2011 4:31:00 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: bert

Check out the Farmland Forecast...........it’s easy to use google.com

try it, you’ll like it.

It is more profitable to grow corn.


24 posted on 01/30/2011 4:37:31 PM PST by Carley (IDEOLOGY TRUMPS FACTS IN THE LEFT'S QUEST FOR POWER)
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To: DuncanWaring; JustTheTruth; All

That’s true but it’s doing the same thing here perhaps we should all be in the streets :).

Bernanke is a liar he claimed he wouldn’t monetize our debt and he has. This all works out to be a plus for the obama administration he can continue to spend, along with soros and the International Crisis Group they have fomented enough unrest to install the man of their choice El Baradei into Egypt.

http://www.crisisgroup.org/en.aspx

El Baradei poses as a critic of the United States, note not because of meddling in the Middle East, but because they are not doing enough. In the media El Baradei berates the US for not intervening in what he calls “social disintegration, economic stagnation, and political repression” in Egypt all the while working with soros/obama/brezinski.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-26/mohamed-elbaradei-the-return-of-the-challenger/


25 posted on 01/30/2011 5:07:36 PM PST by FromLori (FromLori">)
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To: Carley

The use of corn for ethanol will have even more consequence when oil prices increase. That will cause the cost of farm production to increase, which will drive up food prices. It will also drive up the cost of ethanol.

What is the elephant in the Egyptian room is the cost of energy. The cost of production and transport of food is rising because of rising oil prices. This is the cause of Egypt’s economic problem. And what bodes for Egypt will also be a danger for the United States.

As in the United States, interference by Big Government has caused Egypt’s economic troubles. What is of concern is what will replace Egypt’s dictatorship—another dictatorship? Whatever form of government, Egypt like nations around the world have the cost of energy to deal with. That problem will not be solved with Big Government that interferes with the creative ability of Capitalism to come up with answers.


26 posted on 01/30/2011 5:12:32 PM PST by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: jonrick46

Another unintended consequence is that the ethanol is ruining automobiles and gasoline pumps.


27 posted on 01/30/2011 6:11:37 PM PST by Carley (IDEOLOGY TRUMPS FACTS IN THE LEFT'S QUEST FOR POWER)
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To: 1rudeboy
Yes, trade deficits do contribute in part. We export dollars in exchange for real goods. Massive amounts of dollars and t-bills. The world is starting to wake up to the consequences of currency inflation with US dollars flooding the world. True wealth is not increasing, but the quantity of currency is.

US debt and currency expansion feeds it. Fiat currency from other debt-laden nations adds to the problem. We get "stuff" in exchange for paper and promises. The music is going to stop.

28 posted on 01/30/2011 8:22:46 PM PST by JustTheTruth (Sometimes the Truth hurts so much that the masses refuse to face or accept the obvious.)
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To: Hojczyk

Egypt has a very long history of government subsidies of bread....For a time in the 80’s, people were buying bread at a penny a loaf and using it to feed livestock. Probably, worldwide inflation and Bernacke are not to blame, more likely that the Mubarek government reduced the subsidy, sending prices higher.


29 posted on 01/30/2011 8:26:36 PM PST by cookcounty (Knives, Guns, Enemies and Axx-Kicks: The Gentle Political Speech of President Barrimore Soetero.)
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To: bert
"-——The farmers switched to corn rather than wheat——— Reference please"

It's pretty well established that the ethanol cash cow has pushed farmers to plant much more corn than previously, leading to less acreage for other crops.

30 posted on 01/30/2011 8:29:51 PM PST by cookcounty (Knives, Guns, Enemies and Axx-Kicks: The Gentle Political Speech of President Barrimore Soetero.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Commodities are priced in dollars world-wide in international trade. So is oil. As the dollar continues to drop in value against non-devaluing assets (which excludes the Euro and Yen which are falling slightly slower), food and energy cost more everywhere. People are not recognizing - yet - what happens when the world’s reserve currency is abused and devalued by America. The real purposes of this action are to enable govt spending (to re-elect politicians) and to save banks. The ostensible purposes are to help the economy grow and to reduce unemployment. Keynesian lies, but clever.


31 posted on 01/30/2011 8:30:35 PM PST by JustTheTruth (Sometimes the Truth hurts so much that the masses refuse to face or accept the obvious.)
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To: JustTheTruth
Commodities are priced in dollars world-wide in international trade. So is oil. As the dollar continues to drop in value against non-devaluing assets (which excludes the Euro and Yen which are falling slightly slower), food and energy cost more everywhere.

Let's say the dollar is worth 5 Egyptian Pounds. Now the dollar drops 20%, suddenly it's worth 4 Egyptian Pounds.

Prices rise 25%. How is the Egyptian consumer hurt when wheat goes from $8 to $10 a bushel?

32 posted on 01/30/2011 8:54:46 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Hojczyk

Prices right here have risen high. there is no end in sight.
The fed can not continue to just print money as they wish. The value drops and the prices on everything go up.
It is just simple economics.

Eventually we will have to dump the dollar and go with gold to get any stability.

It is gonna get ugly before we are done. It is just starting people. Buckle up .. it’s gonna be a wild ride.


33 posted on 01/31/2011 12:30:23 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: cookcounty; Carley

.....It’s pretty well established that the ethanol cash cow has pushed farmers to plant much more corn......

I’ll accept that with no problem. Fallow land in the corn region would be planted. It is the market at work.

The issue I had was planting corn rather than wheat.

My reasoning.....
Corn and wheat are grasses. Corn grows best in the tall grass regions...the corn belt. Wheat grows best in the short grass regions.... the wheat belt. Corn doesn’t grow well in the plains.

That is in regions where the most wheat is grown, farmers could not switch and obtain the same value per acre. That is why I asked.

In the east where both are grown, perhaps it would be more profitable to plant corn rather than wheat except..... it takes different harvest machines


34 posted on 01/31/2011 4:22:13 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Unless the Egyptian currency is linked to the dollar, a weaker dollar wouldn't make their food more expensive.

I guess you've never heard of carry trade.

35 posted on 01/31/2011 4:27:26 AM PST by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Unless the Egyptian currency is linked to the dollar, a weaker dollar wouldn't make their food more expensive.

The Egyptian Pound may or may not be formally linked to the US Dollar, but the exchange rate has been roughly 5.5 EGP per USD, plus-or-minus 5% for the last five years.

The exchange rate has been rising recently, meaning it takes more EGP to buy a USD, making it even more difficult to buy dollars to pay for things that are priced in dollars, whose price in dollars is also increasing.

36 posted on 01/31/2011 6:13:54 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: palmer
I guess you've never heard of carry trade.

I guess you can explain what that has to do with the price of wheat in Egypt.

37 posted on 01/31/2011 6:19:38 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: DuncanWaring
The exchange rate has been rising recently, meaning it takes more EGP to buy a USD

So the blame for higher prices belongs to the Egyptian Pound, not the US Dollar.

38 posted on 01/31/2011 6:24:09 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

The exchange rate is still roughly what it was five years ago; it’s only reverting to the norm.


39 posted on 01/31/2011 6:27:11 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Yup.

40 posted on 01/31/2011 6:32:01 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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