Posted on 01/30/2011 4:01:07 PM PST by Libloather
jamese777 , ask yourself a few simple questions?
How can obama, called a devout Muslim by his friends as he was growing up , suddenly has always been a Christian ?
How can a person proclaim himself as Kenyan born(obama vs keyes debate) suddenly is American born when running for President?
How can someone go to Columbia college and no record can be found?
Why will Hawaii not confirm what certificate they have for obama,is it a registration form or certified certificate(hospital and doctor information)?
What is so important about a simple birth certificate that obama has been fighting for over three years to suppress?
Whether or not we agree on some details of what is a Natural born citizen, there are a lot of questions about obama that need to be answered.
Any president that would let a decorated officer go to prison for an “all’s fair in love, war and politics” strategic move is the same kind of guy who pulls wings off flies just for the fun of it.
jamese777 , ask yourself a few simple questions?
How can obama, called a devout Muslim by his friends as he was growing up , suddenly has always been a Christian ?
How can a person proclaim himself as Kenyan born(obama vs keyes debate) suddenly is American born when running for President?
How can someone go to Columbia college and no record can be found?
Why will Hawaii not confirm what certificate they have for obama,is it a registration form or certified certificate(hospital and doctor information)?
What is so important about a simple birth certificate that obama has been fighting for over three years to suppress?
Whether or not we agree on some details of what is a Natural born citizen, there are a lot of questions about obama that need to be answered.
The best ways to get answers to all of those questions are either through a grand jury investigation of Obama’s eligibility or via a congressional committee investigation of the natural born citizen requirement as applied to Barack Hussein Obama.
Additionally, the way American election campaigns and elections have always functioned is that a candidates’ political oppostion exposes the candidates’ flaws, vulnerablities and scandals.
For example: “Mr. Jefferson, did you have sexual relations with THAT woman, Sally Hemmings?”
If enough American voters want definitive answers from Barack Obama to your questions, he will be defeated at the polls in November, 2012.
Eligibility is not a popularity contest, one is either eligible or not and the amount of idiots who vote for a person has nothing to do with whether he is eligible or not, but you knew that. Aren’t you supposed to be teaching cooking class or something now? Stay in a field you can bluff your way through not eligibility. You continue to show your deception and/or ignorance on the subject.
Any president that would let a decorated officer go to prison for an “all’s fair in love, war and politics” strategic move is the same kind of guy who pulls wings off flies just for the fun of it.
Got it. The Constitution of the US means nothing to you.
My Country and it’s laws are not a game to me. Your “all’s fair in love and war” baloney doesn’t cut it on FR.
The more you post the more you disgust me.
I see you are still trolling the party line. I guess you have no ethics or morals its all been pointed out to you before:
Long forms are necessary in order to verify the documents
Delayed, Amended, and Midwife Birth Registrations Provide Opportunities for Fraud. State and local vital records staff say birth certificates issued based on delayed and amended birth registrations are more likely to be fraudulent. They also say they consider births registered by midwives, and other home births, to have a high potential for fraud.
Delayed birth registration occurs when a certificate of birth is not filed within the time specified by State law. Delayed birth registrations are sometimes the result of unattended home births, midwife births, and other out-of-hospital births. The Model State and Vital Statistics Act and Regulations require delayed certificates to be issued for births not filed within 1 year. Based on our survey responses, the State median time frame for filing delayed registrations is 1 year, but varies from State-to-State and ranges between 10 days and 4 years.
Federal and State staff alerted us to problems with delayed birth registration. These problems arise from the lack of evidence required to file a delayed birth in some States. Not all States include information with birth certificates about the documentary evidence they accept as proof a birth occurred, and upon which delayed registrations are allowed, with delayed birth certificates. Likewise, the documentary evidence required to register delayed births is inconsistent among States. Forty-seven States accept affidavits of
Birth Certificate Fraud 14 OEI- 07-99-00570 personal knowledge as proof a birth occurred, and 14 include no abstract of documentary evidence when issuing delayed birth certificates.
Amended birth registration occurs when changes are made to the vital information contained on the original birth registration. While we did not specifically address amended birth registrations in our survey, they were identified as problematic in our discussions with Federal agency and State vital records office staff. The overall concern surrounding amended registrations is similar to that of delayed registrations in that some States do not require substantial evidence to amend birth registrations and that birth certificates issued based on amended registrations are not clearly marked as having been “amended.” One State registrar also noted a growing problem in which adults are adopted by other adults, usually for inheritance purposes. In these cases, the adopted person undergoes a legal change of name and their birth record is altered, but the fact that the adoption took place is never recorded in any way on the original or amended birth certificate.
Midwife birth registrations were also identified as an area of concern. Midwives provide a valuable service in insuring the healthy delivery of children and accurate registration of births. However, out-of-hospital births attended by midwives have raised concerns. Sixteen State registrars indicate they have encountered problems specifically linked to midwife birth registration. Our discussions with Federal, State, and local staff during our onsite visits indicate that problems associated with midwife registrations are concentrated along the United States-Mexico border. In fact, midwife registration has become such a problem in one border city we visited that they now require a police officer to be called to the scene shortly after any midwife delivery to verify that the birth actually occurred in the United States. All 41 States that allow midwives to register births have procedures and guidelines in place for such registration, but only 17 of those States require information in addition to or different from that required for hospital births. The additional information required to register midwife births in these States can include attendant affidavits, prenatal and/or post-partum records, and notarized statements or other documentation verifying the birth took place. In addition, some States require that midwives provide documentation that the mother lived in the State at the time the birth occurred
http://www.oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-07-99-00570.pdf
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=107200
http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back302.html
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/puerto-rico-birth-certificate-fraud.html
Eligibility is not a popularity contest, one is either eligible or not and the amount of idiots who vote for a person has nothing to do with whether he is eligible or not, but you knew that. Aren’t you supposed to be teaching cooking class or something now? Stay in a field you can bluff your way through not eligibility. You continue to show your deception and/or ignorance on the subject.
What I can do is count! We are now at 89 Obama eligibility lawsuits adjudicated in courts at every level of the judiciary, including 12 appeals at the Supreme Court of the United States. There have been no findings by any court or any judicial panel in the nation that Obama is ineligible.
That goes all the way back to the original Berg v Obama filing of August 21, 2008.
Nope, no cooking classes on Tuesday, sorry.
This will be won or lost in the court of public opinion.
A **real** American and natural born citizen would be HONORED to promptly prove with all the best evidence that he is eligible to be president and Commander in Chief. He would be especially pleased to do that for his troops. A guilty usurper would not.
When politely asked to prove his natural born status ( a simple matter for a **real** American natural born citizen) Obama refused. Rather than produce the evidence he allowed Lakin’s case to proceed. Anyone who would do that is sadistic. He is someone who would stab out the eyes of kittens for fun.
No matter how the afterbirthers ( traitors really) spin it, that is a great big FAIL in the court of public opinion. Nearly 6 out of 10 Americans now doubt Obama’s eligibility. After Abercrombie those numbers are likely even higher.
In various states across the nations bills are being introduced that would require candidates to prove their natural born status. Behind these bills are **ticked-off** state legislators with political influence. Many are attorneys.
We shall see how this works out. Drip! Drip! Drip!
This will be won or lost in the court of public opinion.
A **real** American and natural born citizen would be HONORED to promptly prove with all the best evidence that he is eligible to be president and Commander in Chief. He would be especially pleased to do that for his troops. A guilty usurper would not.
When politely asked to prove his natural born status ( a simple matter for a **real** American natural born citizen) Obama refused. Rather than produce the evidence he allowed Lakin’s case to proceed. Anyone who would do that is sadistic. He is someone who would stab out the eyes of kittens for fun.
No matter how the afterbirthers ( traitors really) spin it, that is a great big FAIL in the court of public opinion. Nearly 6 out of 10 Americans now doubt Obama’s eligibility. After Abercrombie those numbers are likely even higher.
In various states across the nations bills are being introduced that would require candidates to prove their natural born status. Behind these bills are **ticked-off** state legislators with political influence. Many are attorneys.
We shall see how this works out. Drip! Drip! Drip!
I just wish that a grand jury investigation or congressional hearings could help shape public opinion by bringing more attention to the issue.
I see you are still trolling the party line. I guess you have no ethics or morals its all been pointed out to you before:
Long forms are necessary in order to verify the documents
Delayed, Amended, and Midwife Birth Registrations Provide Opportunities for Fraud. State and local vital records staff say birth certificates issued based on delayed and amended birth registrations are more likely to be fraudulent. They also say they consider births registered by midwives, and other home births, to have a high potential for fraud.
Delayed birth registration occurs when a certificate of birth is not filed within the time specified by State law. Delayed birth registrations are sometimes the result of unattended home births, midwife births, and other out-of-hospital births. The Model State and Vital Statistics Act and Regulations require delayed certificates to be issued for births not filed within 1 year. Based on our survey responses, the State median time frame for filing delayed registrations is 1 year, but varies from State-to-State and ranges between 10 days and 4 years.
Federal and State staff alerted us to problems with delayed birth registration. These problems arise from the lack of evidence required to file a delayed birth in some States. Not all States include information with birth certificates about the documentary evidence they accept as proof a birth occurred, and upon which delayed registrations are allowed, with delayed birth certificates. Likewise, the documentary evidence required to register delayed births is inconsistent among States. Forty-seven States accept affidavits of
Birth Certificate Fraud 14 OEI- 07-99-00570 personal knowledge as proof a birth occurred, and 14 include no abstract of documentary evidence when issuing delayed birth certificates.
Amended birth registration occurs when changes are made to the vital information contained on the original birth registration. While we did not specifically address amended birth registrations in our survey, they were identified as problematic in our discussions with Federal agency and State vital records office staff. The overall concern surrounding amended registrations is similar to that of delayed registrations in that some States do not require substantial evidence to amend birth registrations and that birth certificates issued based on amended registrations are not clearly marked as having been “amended.” One State registrar also noted a growing problem in which adults are adopted by other adults, usually for inheritance purposes. In these cases, the adopted person undergoes a legal change of name and their birth record is altered, but the fact that the adoption took place is never recorded in any way on the original or amended birth certificate.
Midwife birth registrations were also identified as an area of concern. Midwives provide a valuable service in insuring the healthy delivery of children and accurate registration of births. However, out-of-hospital births attended by midwives have raised concerns. Sixteen State registrars indicate they have encountered problems specifically linked to midwife birth registration. Our discussions with Federal, State, and local staff during our onsite visits indicate that problems associated with midwife registrations are concentrated along the United States-Mexico border. In fact, midwife registration has become such a problem in one border city we visited that they now require a police officer to be called to the scene shortly after any midwife delivery to verify that the birth actually occurred in the United States. All 41 States that allow midwives to register births have procedures and guidelines in place for such registration, but only 17 of those States require information in addition to or different from that required for hospital births. The additional information required to register midwife births in these States can include attendant affidavits, prenatal and/or post-partum records, and notarized statements or other documentation verifying the birth took place. In addition, some States require that midwives provide documentation that the mother lived in the State at the time the birth occurred
http://www.oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-07-99-00570.pdf
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=107200
http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back302.html
http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/05/puerto-rico-birth-certificate-fraud.html
Any delayed registration of birth couldn’t have been too long since the birth notices for a son born to Mr. and Mrs. Barack H. Obama of 6085 Kalanianaole Highway in Honolulu appeared in the August 13th and 14th Honolulu newspapers after a birth registered with the state on August 8, 1961.
If Obama was born in a hippie commune on the north shore of Oahu and was delivered by an unregistered midwife, he’s still born in the US.
We will see. Drip! Drip! Drip!
My guess: I think we will see a break through from the criminal aspect.
....Nope, no cooking classes on Tuesday, sorry....
Math for dummies? or how to cut and paste in 3 easy lessons?
We will see. Drip! Drip! Drip!
My guess: I think we will see a break through from the criminal aspect.
...If Obama was born in a hippie commune on the north shore of Oahu and was delivered by an unregistered midwife, he’s still born in the US.....
Yeah and he’d still be a liar after saying Kapiolani was the hospital of his birth. If Obama was born in Hawaii it was probably in little Tripler Army Hospital (psych unit)
We know Obama's is neither delayed nor amended. We know it's not delayed because his birth was registered within 4 days. We know it's not amended because it would say so on his COLB. I agree you would need a long-form to verify that it wasn't a midwife home birth.
However, in the case of Hawaii, the risk of fraud isn't elevated with a midwife brith. Why? From your own text:
Our discussions with Federal, State, and local staff during our onsite visits indicate that problems associated with midwife registrations are concentrated along the United States-Mexico border.
Last time I checked, Hawaii wasn't on the border.
Now if you still want to allege Mama Obama or Grandma fraudulantly registered Bambi's birth, what was the motive?
We know nothing of the sort we have not seen his real CO LB. In fact Hawaii appears to have admitted it was amended
Last time I checked, Hawaii wasn't on the border.
Just because it is not on the southern border doesn't mean it is not a problem, Hawaii made it so easy to get a BC they may not have needed to resort to mid-wife fraud. They of course are entirely a border state surrounded by oceans which makes it easy for one to land via boat on their shores with a newborn and claim birth in Hawaii. Don't you understand anything or are you just playing at being dumb?
Now if you still want to allege Mama Obama or Grandma fraudulantly registered Bambi's birth, what was the motive?
Ignorance of a seldom known immigration law and desire to have a US citizen child so Obamas father could not take him away to Kenya is pretty good motive. Did you see the phonied up doctors note in Lolo's Immigration file where Stanley Ann tried to claim medical hardship? Those folks are congenital liars just like Obama and a few posters here.
It’s on the border of Japan, which you’d understand if you were ever there not for vacation.
I think that the questions are not being asked because the people that should be asking the questions are afraid of the media. Could you image what would happen if any politician in Washington stood up and stated that he or she thought that obama was born in Kenya? The democratic party and the media could destroy him or her in the next election. A lot of politicians are willing to sell their country out for a few pieces of silver.
A lot of politicians are willing to sell their country out for a few pieces of silver.
change that a lot to all....that is what we need to change, we need to make it worse for them to ignore the issue than to attack and verify it. Pickiting, protests, email, faxes, phone calls, and non-violent methods are our last chance.
Lets concentrate on a few like Darrel Issa to start with as he has the subpoena powe lets give him some encouragement!
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