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State lawmakers want Obama’s birth records (Arizona's HB2544 & Burges takes 2nd try at birther bill)
SV Herald ^ | 1/29/11 | Howard Fischer

Posted on 01/30/2011 4:01:07 PM PST by Libloather

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To: faucetman; SvenMagnussen

Your link is total irrelevant and regardless, he BECAME an Indonesian citizen!!!


51 posted on 01/30/2011 9:25:22 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: jamese777; Red Steel
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52 posted on 01/30/2011 9:28:27 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: faucetman; Libloather
YES YOU CAN BE PRESIDENT

NO YOU CAN'T. PERIOD!!!

53 posted on 01/30/2011 9:28:49 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: Texas Fossil; faucetman
Nowhere did she say that she had seen the original "birth certificate"

And that's what hippie Abercommie with his big hippo mouth found out the hard way. He should just have listened to Tim Adams would have save him eggs on his face!!!

54 posted on 01/30/2011 9:38:17 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: jamese777
But they did say that the hard copy of a Hawaii COLB released to the St. Petersburg Times newspaper from Obama’s Chicago office was “a valid Hawaii State Birth Certificate.”—Janice Okubo, Director of Communications, Hawaii Department of Health


This is another reason why you have no credibility Obot.

Title: "As Obama stonewalls on uncertified birth certificate, official doubts mount Israel Insider ^ | June 28, 2008 | June 28, 2008

Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:19:52 PM by Red Steel"

"A senior official in the State of Hawaii's Department of Health, Director of Communications Janice Okubo, confirms that the image published and circulated by the Obama campaign as his "birth certificate" lacks the necessary embossed seal and signature. Backing away from a quote attributed to her that the image on the campaign site was "valid," she told the St. Petersburg (Florida) Times in an article published yesterday: "I don't know that it's possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents." "

You future Zot, mislead, quibble, BS, and flat out lie. Tsk tsk again OBot.

You should know by now not to mess with me as I know just everything on this subject.

55 posted on 01/30/2011 9:44:26 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

We see that miss jamese in addition to be a Holder paid enabler brigade, he’s found new sponsor!!!


56 posted on 01/30/2011 9:46:22 PM PST by danamco (-)
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To: jamese777
Muslims sometimes claim that the root word of Islam is “al-Salaam,” which is “peace” in Arabic. The Truth: An Arabic word only has one root. The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.” Photobucket
57 posted on 01/30/2011 9:49:57 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: danamco
We see that miss jamese in addition to be a Holder paid enabler brigade, he’s found new sponsor!!!

The twit is so easy to discredit that Holder should get Soros to ask for a refund.

58 posted on 01/30/2011 9:54:06 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: danamco
Obama practicing to the questions: Are you a Muslim, a natural born citizen, were you born in Hawaii. Photobucket
59 posted on 01/30/2011 10:01:22 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: faucetman

There are people who would deconstruct the issues discussed in the debates before the adoption of the Constitution, particularly the words ‘natural born citizen’. Their sense of a living document is one subject to change instead of historical understanding.


60 posted on 01/30/2011 10:15:40 PM PST by noinfringers2
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To: jamese777
Gee, isn’t it interesting then that with FIVE, count ‘em FIVE conservatives on the current US Supreme Court that they aren’t even interested in hearing oral arguments in ANY Obama eligibility appeal? Not ONE single US Supreme Court Justice has asked Obama to submit a brief defending his eligibility to be President of the United States.

I think I've explained it to you a number of times to why these guys are afraid to take the case. However, the scuttlebutt is that 3 of the 4 conservatives on the court have voted in favor of taking the case on the father jus sanguinis passing citizenship to their children that causes duel allegiances, but Obama has not really proven that he is even a US citizen. Kennedy is not really a conservative and so that only makes 4 of them - not 5 conservatives. Obama is on very thin ice by only one vote if the grapevine is correct. Only one vote could separate Obama from getting kicked out of the White House. It is pretty stupid on your part to crow about that Obama is getting all the votes not to remove him.

Not fret OBot, Obama may just be stupid enough to challenge the ballot laws that would keep his lying rear-end off the state ballots. You would likely get your wish and the Supreme Court would then take up the case they have been avoiding and rule on his usurpation.

So which are you Red Steal, a “crank” or a “conspiracy nut?”

I'm not a nut for Obama like you. I can actually logically articulate why Obama is not legally pResident while you cut and paste nonsense that I easily slam.

61 posted on 01/30/2011 10:18:02 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: bushpilot1

LoL. :-)


62 posted on 01/30/2011 10:22:41 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

This is another reason why you have no credibility Obot.

Title: “As Obama stonewalls on uncertified birth certificate, official doubts mount Israel Insider ^ | June 28, 2008 | June 28, 2008

Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 4:19:52 PM by Red Steel”

“A senior official in the State of Hawaii’s Department of Health, Director of Communications Janice Okubo, confirms that the image published and circulated by the Obama campaign as his “birth certificate” lacks the necessary embossed seal and signature. Backing away from a quote attributed to her that the image on the campaign site was “valid,” she told the St. Petersburg (Florida) Times in an article published yesterday: “I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.” “

You future Zot, mislead, quibble, BS, and flat out lie. Tsk tsk again OBot.

You should know by now not to mess with me as I know just everything on this subject.


There is a difference between Janice Okubo discussing the hard copy of a COLB for Barack Obama emailed to her from the St. Petersburg Times for verification and then later in the article discussing the scanned IMAGE of the COLB on the fightthesmears website.

RedSteel conveniently omits Janice Okubo’s response to the emailed COLB: “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.”

Anybody wanting to check the facts can click on this link and read the entire article for themself:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

One more time: Janice Okubo, Director of Communications for the Hawaii state Department of Health: “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.”


63 posted on 01/30/2011 11:05:14 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Bon mots

ROFLMAO

YES they are!


64 posted on 01/30/2011 11:21:29 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: UCFRoadWarrior

You said it!

They all gave him a pass from McCain to the MSM and even fox news.

It is high time we put an end to this.

release all the records now .. everything. From birth to college and work records (did he ever really work?)

I want it all now!


65 posted on 01/30/2011 11:23:58 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: omegadawn

Your right. But why even talk about the midwife thing?
he claims to be born in a hospital in hawaii right?

The funny thing is that it is staring so many people right in the face and they don’t get it. :-(


66 posted on 01/30/2011 11:29:16 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: little jeremiah

seems to be the sop in answers now doesn’t it?

Puts it all back on the democrats when / if the truth comes out.
This way they can say “we trusted them to tell the truth”

It is called Plausible deniability so when the people of America say WTF! They have one party to believe in yet ..

Or so they think


67 posted on 01/30/2011 11:32:19 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Texas Fossil

>Based on what document did you make that statement? Nothing I have seen indicates there is any evidence of this. And “native” to what country?<

Not sticking up for Obama but ion his fight the smears web site, he says he is a “native born citizen” of the United States.

I’ll take him at his word ... but of course that does not qualify him to be POTUS. A native born is not the same as a “Natural Born citizen”

So if he wants to stick to being native born as is on his web site, then get the hell out of the people’s house!
If he wants to remain there .. then it is time to release the records from birth to college.


68 posted on 01/30/2011 11:39:06 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Texas Fossil

>Nowhere did she say that she had seen the original “birth certificate”<

Correct.
lets take it one step further.

The department of records sent out the birth announcement along with all the others that showed Obama being born and residing in Hawaii ...

AT HIS GRANDMOTHERS HOUSE.

Not with his parents?

What is wrong with this picture?


69 posted on 01/30/2011 11:41:31 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: jamese777

hey liar read to the end of your article and how do you email a hard copy? She corrected herself after being challenged. YOU LIE


70 posted on 01/30/2011 11:43:31 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: jamese777

funny how I recall McCain had to go through a senate hearing and the only requirement that anyone knew of including a supreme court judge was that

he was born of “american citizens” plural.

Not a kenyan ... AMERICAN.


71 posted on 01/30/2011 11:44:44 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: jamese777

>“The President was, in fact born at Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii, and that’s just a fact.”
“It’s been established. He was born here.” [Former]Governor Linda Lingle (R-HI) <

Yet the hospital says that they have no birth on record for him under that name. So strange isn’t it?


72 posted on 01/30/2011 11:46:55 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: jamese777
RedSteel conveniently omits Janice Okubo’s response to the emailed COLB: “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.”

Anybody wanting to check the facts can click on this link and read the entire article for themself:

You've got to be one of the dumbest trolls and that's saying something. LoL. Even Obot Politi"fact" Amy Hollyfield has this in her propaganda piece where Janice Okubo concluded this:


St Petersburg Times Okubo  27 Jun 2008

One more time: Janice Okubo, Director of Communications for the Hawaii state Department of Health: “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.”

One more time, when Okubo was challenged by the "Birthers" she changed her tune as seen above in the graphic.

And the image was emailed for their verification? LoL. Did Okubo, Fukino and the DoH registrar check their logs if Obama was issued a COLB? Why would Obama need one if he found his real birth certificate along with his inoculation records that he found when he was a kid? BTW future Zot, shot inoculation records are issued with Kenyan birth certificates. He could've shown that one LoL.

And when the other Obama COLB forgery came out on August 2nd, 2008, how come Hawaii didn't say, yeah that's real, that's a genuine COLB from Hawaii. We checked the log book and Obama was issued a COLB on June 6, 2007 from Hawaii.

Oh nooooo not peep out of them. As a matter fact, those clowns in Hawaii refused to comment on that image purported to be Obama's COLB.

73 posted on 01/30/2011 11:49:10 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: rolling_stone

hey liar read to the end of your article and how do you email a hard copy? She corrected herself after being challenged. YOU LIE


“It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.”—Janice Okubo, Director of Communications, Hawaii state Department of Health

“Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.”
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/


74 posted on 01/30/2011 11:51:19 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777

arrivaderchi troll

IBTZ
http://users.wolfcrews.com/toys/vikings/


75 posted on 01/30/2011 11:56:21 PM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: jamese777
“Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.”

Looked identical? Sure thing Obot. /sarc But Okubo finally admitted...

St Petersburg Times Okubo  27 Jun 2008

76 posted on 01/30/2011 11:58:49 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: jamese777

Just explain one thing to me.

Why did the DNC and the HDP (Hawaiian democratic party) differ on their view on Obama’s eligibility?

Did you know that the HDP refused to certify Obama and there were several registrations made?

It is beyond shady ..

http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/certificate-of-nomination-summary/

http://people.mags.net/tonchen/birthers.htm

http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/23/hawaii-ground-report-could-hawaiian-governor-neil-abercrombie-not-be-as-incompetent-and-foolish-as-he-appears-but-orchestrating-a-deliberate-birth-certificate-recovery-dead-end-to-cover-his-own-pap/

Say what you will .. but ANYONE who spends 2 million dollars to hide what they say that they have in a book that they allegedly wrote ain’t telling the truth. If you think for a minute that Obama is as he appears your the biggest sap on the planet earth. Don’t bother to reply to me, I wont waste my time with you. The amount of kool-aid you drank is terminal


77 posted on 01/31/2011 12:18:45 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Texas Fossil

You may be interested in reading this.

It is long, but the facts are there and it seems pretty well documented to me.

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/01/new-report-on-obamas-democratic-party.html

let me know what you think.

(grab a cup of coffee .. it is long)


78 posted on 01/31/2011 12:23:02 AM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: jamese777
You can try to parse Dr. Fukino’s words till the cows come home but judges and justices all across America, and at the Supreme Court of the United States have understood Dr. Fukino’s words much better than you.

That’s why the scorecard in Obama eligibility lawsuits is Obama: 89/Birthers: 0.

Nope. You are wrong. That is not why the courts have done what they have. Troll.

79 posted on 01/31/2011 2:43:39 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: jamese777
the hard copy of a COLB for Barack Obama emailed to her from the St. Petersburg Times

e-mails do not handle "hard copy" attachments (hee hee hee, simply Duuuhhh!)

80 posted on 01/31/2011 3:00:09 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Red Steel

38 U.S. 265 (1978)
REGENTS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA
v.
BAKKE.

No. 76-811.
Supreme Court of United States.

Argued October 12, 1977.
Decided June 28, 1978.

Harvard College Admissions Program

The belief that diversity adds an essential ingredient to the educational process has long been a tenet of Harvard College admissions. In recent years Harvard College has expanded the concept of diversity to include students from disadvantaged economic, racial and ethnic groups.

Harvard College now recruits not only Californians or Louisianans but also blacks and Chicanos and other minority students.

In practice, this new definition of diversity has meant that race has been a factor in some admission decisions.

When the Committee on Admissions reviews the large middle group of applicants who are “admissible” and deemed capable of doing good work in their courses, the race of an applicant may tip the balance in his favor.

The belief has been that if scholarly excellence were the sole or even predominant criterion, Harvard College would lose a great deal of its vitality.

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=4987623155291151023&hl=en&as_sdt=2,5&kqfp=4156471326979603553&kql=180&kqpfp=133130


81 posted on 01/31/2011 3:41:28 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: LucyT; Spunky; Fantasywriter; warsaw44; ColdOne; Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!; GQuagmire; ...

This needs a fresh FReeper poll. Scroll all the way down past Rush Limbaugh and cast your vote. ONLY 11 votes has been cast!!!

http://einhornpress.com/GovernorNeilAbercrombieontheObamaBirth.aspx


82 posted on 01/31/2011 5:19:18 AM PST by danamco (-)
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To: Red Steel; Munz; Texas Fossil; bushpilot1; LucyT

The very feminine miss jamese is only using her FReeper privileged (still allowed by the grace of the Big Kahuna) to stir and muddying the NBC issue and reporting back to Holder for cash!

She copy & past from other sites where she also is posting and sounds here like broken records, posting the exact same garbage and lies over,...click, over,...click, over,...click again and gets paid for every answers you give her. It’s time for every Constitutionalists FRiends to total ignore her games. She’s a true long time “PLANT”!!

Also pay attention too Post 82!!!


83 posted on 01/31/2011 5:45:55 AM PST by danamco (-)
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To: SvenMagnussen
McCain doesn’t have a US based BC because he was born in a foreign country with two US citizen parents. He’s a statutory citizen with a Certificate of Citizenship to prove his US citizenship.

I understood that he was born in the U.S. Canal Zone, which, at the time, was understood to be sovereign US territory, before Jimmah and the internationalist elite gave it away.

84 posted on 01/31/2011 8:35:03 AM PST by thulldud (Is it "alter or abolish" time yet?)
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To: jamese777

If a man walks into a bank ,robs it and walks out and is never arrested , if he a bank robber? What if a number of bank customers recognizance him, but don’t say anything ?is he a bank robber. The answer is yes, it does not matter that our courts and politicians refuse to support the constitution, it still does not make obama the President. The accepted meaning of Natural born citizen has remained the same for over 200 years,CHILDREN OF CITIZENS SHALL BE CONSIDERED NATURAL BORN. Do you know of any congressional bill passed or Constitutional amendment that passed that changes the original intent? The Constitution is around 16 pages long and is considered a “common sense “ document. Any reasonable person at that time would have understood what “natural born “ meant, no different from what a stop sign means now. If you ever get stopped for running a stop sign, just tell the judge that the sign is not clear to it’s meaning. It does not say who has to stop,or when,or how often ,or what vehicles it applies to. The judge will think you are a nut, just as the founding fathers would have thought if you questioned the meaning of Natural Born.


85 posted on 01/31/2011 8:36:40 AM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: jamese777

If a man walks into a bank ,robs it and walks out and is never arrested , if he a bank robber? What if a number of bank customers recognizance him, but don’t say anything ?is he a bank robber. The answer is yes, it does not matter that our courts and politicians refuse to support the constitution, it still does not make obama the President. The accepted meaning of Natural born citizen has remained the same for over 200 years,CHILDREN OF CITIZENS SHALL BE CONSIDERED NATURAL BORN. Do you know of any congressional bill passed or Constitutional amendment that passed that changes the original intent? The Constitution is around 16 pages long and is considered a “common sense “ document. Any reasonable person at that time would have understood what “natural born “ meant, no different from what a stop sign means now. If you ever get stopped for running a stop sign, just tell the judge that the sign is not clear to it’s meaning. It does not say who has to stop,or when,or how often ,or what vehicles it applies to. The judge will think you are a nut, just as the founding fathers would have thought if you questioned the meaning of Natural Born.


86 posted on 01/31/2011 8:36:53 AM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: Munz

true , obama “ claims” to be born in a Hawaiian hospital.
He probably was born in a hospital in Mombasa Kenya


87 posted on 01/31/2011 8:40:07 AM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: danamco

“I agree with everything in your post, except for this last paragraph. He has NO form N550!!!”

Obama left Indonesia as an Indonesian National and came to America as a refugee. An American Refugee Assistance Organization located in Connecticut helped Obama clear customs and transition back to America.

Remember, Obama came back to America alone and his grandmother was named as his legal guardian. In the mid-70’s, the Federal Government passed a law requiring AFDC recipients to have an SSN to continue receiving benefits.

The Connecticut Refugee Assistance Organization applied for Obama’s SSN on his behalf so his grandmother could continue to receive AFDC benefits for him; thus, the Connecticut SSN.

In the early 80’s, Obama transitioned from a Greencard holding legal immigrant to become a Naturalized American citizen.


88 posted on 01/31/2011 8:46:25 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Everything you need to know is known unknowns)
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To: SvenMagnussen
The Connecticut Refugee Assistance Organization applied for Obama’s SSN on his behalf so his grandmother could continue to receive AFDC benefits for him; thus, the Connecticut SSN.

That's a documented fact or a speculation based on similar cases?

89 posted on 01/31/2011 8:51:47 AM PST by bvw
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To: jamese777
RedSteel conveniently omits Janice Okubo’s response to the emailed COLB: “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.” Anybody wanting to check the facts can click on this link and read the entire article for themself: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/ One more time: Janice Okubo, Director of Communications for the Hawaii state Department of Health: “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.” And then of course there is this! http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105817 Hawaii refuses to verify president's online COLBs
90 posted on 01/31/2011 8:55:36 AM PST by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: omegadawn

If a man walks into a bank ,robs it and walks out and is never arrested , if he a bank robber? What if a number of bank customers recognizance him, but don’t say anything ?is he a bank robber. The answer is yes, it does not matter that our courts and politicians refuse to support the constitution, it still does not make obama the President. The accepted meaning of Natural born citizen has remained the same for over 200 years,CHILDREN OF CITIZENS SHALL BE CONSIDERED NATURAL BORN. Do you know of any congressional bill passed or Constitutional amendment that passed that changes the original intent? The Constitution is around 16 pages long and is considered a “common sense “ document. Any reasonable person at that time would have understood what “natural born “ meant, no different from what a stop sign means now. If you ever get stopped for running a stop sign, just tell the judge that the sign is not clear to it’s meaning. It does not say who has to stop,or when,or how often ,or what vehicles it applies to. The judge will think you are a nut, just as the founding fathers would have thought if you questioned the meaning of Natural Born.


There are codified laws against robbing banks. There is no codified law requiring two citizen parents in order to be President. No such statement is in the Constitution.

If there was such a law or if the Supreme Court had rendered decisions on original intent stating that, or even if it was generally accepted common law policy, Barack Hussein Obama II would never have been allowed to be on the ballot in 50 states plus the District of Columbia and campaign for the presidency for a year and a half through the primaries and general election. Obama’s electoral college votes would not have been counted and certified by Vice President Cheney. At least two members of Congress out of 535 Representatives and Senators would have submitted written objections and by doing so forced both Houses of Congress to investigate the issue. Chief Justice Roberts would never have agreed to administer the oath of office. At least one local, county, state, or federal court would have ruled that Obama is ineligible for the presidency. The Supreme Court of the United States would have granted a Petition for a Writ of Certiorari to one of the Obama eligibility appeals to reach the High Court for Certiorari conferences.

The fact is that there is no such requirement and there never has been. What there is, is an opinion on international law of a 19th Century Swiss professor who was never an American citizen.


91 posted on 01/31/2011 9:11:10 AM PST by jamese777
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To: GregNH

And then of course there is this! http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=105817 Hawaii refuses to verify president’s online COLBs


Hawaii can’t verify the scanned image of a document posted on a website. Anyone would need an actual hard copy of the document in order to perform a verification.

What Hawaii verified was a copy of a 2007 COLB that the St. Petersburg Times newspaper received from Obama’s Chicago offices.

The Director of Communications for the Department of Health said of that document: “It’s a valid Hawaii state birth certificate.”

The former Republican Governor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle even went as far as to name Obama’s birth hospital. She said: “The President was, in fact, born at Kapiolani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact.”
She went on to say: “It’s been established. He was born here.”
Her comments and the Director of Health’s media releases have prompted the new Speaker of the House, John Boehner to state: “The state of Hawaii has said that the president was born there. That’s good enough for me.”

Dr. Fukino’s statement: “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health VERIFYING Barack Hussein Obama
was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf


92 posted on 01/31/2011 9:28:35 AM PST by jamese777
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To: SvenMagnussen
Obama left Indonesia as an Indonesian National and came to America as a refugee. An American Refugee Assistance Organization located in Connecticut helped Obama clear customs and transition back to America. Remember, Obama came back to America alone and his grandmother was named as his legal guardian. In the mid-70’s, the Federal Government passed a law requiring AFDC recipients to have an SSN to continue receiving benefits.

The Connecticut Refugee Assistance Organization applied for Obama’s SSN on his behalf so his grandmother could continue to receive AFDC benefits for him; thus, the Connecticut SSN.

In the early 80’s, Obama transitioned from a Greencard holding legal immigrant to become a Naturalized American citizen.

Your "theory" does NOT match SS's procedures of issuing valid SS#!

The SSA is adamant that numbers are never recycled and likely won't be for the foreseeable future. Given the nine-digit format, there are a hair under 1 billion possible permutations, taking into account that numbers like 000-00-0000 and other oddities aren't distributed. (An elaborate mathematical guesstimate here quotes the precise figure as 988,911,099.) So far, the SSA has doled out roughly 400 million numbers. Population researchers calculate that roughly 300 million people will require new Social Security numbers by the year 2050—about 230 million native births plus 68 million immigrants, give or take 50 million all told. Barring unforeseen circumstances, such as a meteor strike or cloning boom, the current enumeration system should last nearly another century.

We know he has a SS# belonged to a citizen of CT, but NOT to Barry Soetoro!!

What are your sources for the naturalization and the other stuff about Toot Dunham's guardianship, etc.!!!

93 posted on 01/31/2011 9:28:49 AM PST by danamco (-)
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To: Texas Fossil

Nope. You are wrong. That is not why the courts have done what they have. Troll.


Pray, tell us, what is the reason then? GNOME.

And while you’re telling us, here’s what one federal judge had to say. A judge who was a former Republican state Senator from Georgia and who was appointed to the federal bench by President George W. Bush: “A spurious claim questioning the president’s constitutional legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment, but a Court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a claim that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.”—US. District Court Judge Clay R. Land, Rhodes v MacDonald, September 16, 2009.


94 posted on 01/31/2011 9:38:22 AM PST by jamese777
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To: SvenMagnussen

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2527092/posts

Still seeking an explanation for Obama’s SSN 042-68-4425


95 posted on 01/31/2011 9:40:34 AM PST by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: danamco

The database your relying on for SSN “facts” is full of errors.

It is a fact Obama is US native-born, emigrated to Indonesia and became an Indonesian National after the Soetoro adoption was finalized.

It is a fact Obama returned to the US as an Indonesian National when Obama Sr returned to complain in Court he was not properly notified and did not agree to the loss of his parental rights. The Soetoro adoption was annulled and Obama Sr. was identified as BHO’s II father on a new COLB after all previous BC’s and adoption records were sealed by Court Order.

The adoption annulment did not change BHO’s II school record, immunization record or his citizenship. BHO was a greencard holding immigrant until the early 80’s when he became a Naturalized US Citizen !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


96 posted on 01/31/2011 9:45:44 AM PST by SvenMagnussen (Everything you need to know is known unknowns)
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To: freedumb2003

You’re correct! A lot of us have two birth certificates, not just one. We got one from the hospital, with parents’ thumbprints and baby’s footprint on it, doctor’s signature, hospital seal of approval. Then we got the government-issued version, too. No footprints, but a lot more information, such as parents’ names and places of birth (crucial to determining natural born citizenship status of child). TWO. Not just one.

I can produce either or both at a moment’s notice. In fact, the reason I can is that I have HAD to produce the government version many times: To apply for jobs at public entities, to get a driver’s license, to register to vote, to get a passport, etc.

It’s VERY unusual, actually unlikely, that a man like Obama does NOT have a birth certificate handy.

How’d he get admitted to the IL bar? Don’t state and federal senators have to pass background checks? How’d he get a passport to travel to Paaaaakeeeeestaaaaahn in 1981?

He has a birth certificate; he’s just not about to show it. WHY NOT? Common sense will provide the answer.


97 posted on 01/31/2011 9:47:20 AM PST by Greenperson
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To: faucetman

You cannot become a naturalized citizen and renounce your U.S. citizenship until after you reach the age of majority, and your parent or guardian cannot renounce your citizenship for you.
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Nope, but you CAN renounce if for yourself, like gallavanting around the world on a foreign passport after the age of majority and/or registering at schools as a foreign student. This type of thing just might qualify, at least in the minds of the electorate, as an example of someone who, if he ever had citizenship in the first place, certainly renounced it. Whatever. If his parents are those he claims, then he’s not eligible in any case, because he is not a “natural born” US citizen. Possibly a “born” US citizen, but NOT a “natural born” US citizen. The only way for anyone to know is to KNOW the exact facts concerning his birth. He HIDES them. Why? Perhaps because instead of proving eligibility they will disprove it.


98 posted on 01/31/2011 10:07:27 AM PST by Greenperson
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To: Eagle Forgotten

Eagle Forgotten: You could easily find out who delivered you by asking the city clerk’s office for a copy of your original birth certificate. You CAN get it, if you ask. The certified copies serve for some purposes, but if you need to see a copy of the original, they will dig it out of the archives and make a copy for you. A copy of the original item. It’s there. It’s history. NO vital records office destroys birth certificates.

IF Obama wanted a copy of his original birth certificate released (that one that Fukino and others claim they SAW), along with all the rest of whatever documents are on file in Hawaii, all he has to do is to AUTHORIZE them to release the documents.

Did you notice that the initial news story did state that Hawaii can’t release them WITHOUT THE PERSON’S CONSENT?

Easy to miss that point, because most news stories omitted that phrase (without the person’s consent) from the “news”. I wonder why!

Simple solution, which will cost the legislature nothing (in time or money): ASK Obama to give his consent. Release the documents. End of story.

It WILL be the end of the story. Right?


99 posted on 01/31/2011 10:34:30 AM PST by Greenperson
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To: Texas Fossil

Correct. He needs to be a natural US citizen as well as a born US citizen. Natural. That’s the key word.


100 posted on 01/31/2011 10:56:43 AM PST by Greenperson
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