Posted on 02/01/2011 9:50:28 PM PST by speciallybland
Kipling rocks. I think the Hymn of the Breaking Strain fits well these days too.
Hey Harley...in MO, a license just shows you passed the test at the DMV ... there is no Driver’s Ed or training anymore...plus you can fail it 4 times, then pass the 5th and be as good as gold...drivers licenses are jokes when it comes to actual driving...magritte
Yes, he does.
IMHO, there is no social or political question that cannot be answered by consulting Mr. Kipling’s poetry.
Personally, I think “An Imperial Rescript” address the entire Obama agenda.
My daughter is one of those imbeciles
Come on man a little critical thinking ;-) How are burglaries and other crimes recorded... by the police/other agencies, and these days everyone is linked electronically so another none issue.
We could go at this all week, point is, a license for something that is critical to our freedom of movement should not be controlled by the government... because the next step is something like REAL/PASS ID a National ID Card which is still being pushed hard.
The object of both cards is not safety, it is control.
I repeatedly hear stories of drunk drivers who have had five, six or seven DUIs and have long since lost their driver’s licenses. What’s keeping them off the roads now? Nothing.
>> Come on man a little critical thinking ;-) How are burglaries and other crimes recorded...
So, are saying that rolling through a stop warrants a trip to the precinct?
My original point has nothing to do with statism, but the tracking of road-rules violations such as driving too slow, or failing to yield. Either we throw out the rules or provide a way to ticket them on the spot. Hauling folks down to the precinct for such infractions would be tyrannical.
Now using some “critical thinking”, how do you propose people get ticketed in the absence of a driver’s license?
Drunk driving is on the extreme end of driving violations and doesn’t fit very well into the point I hoped to make. This type of violation falls into the realm of criminal activity that warrants the booking other posters recommended in general.
How about we toss out all traffic violations that have anything to do with minor infractions? Without a ticketing system, it would be extremely expensive if not impossible to process the volume of driving misdemeanors that occur daily.
If a ticketing system is needed, certainly we’re not going to provide our birth certificate or SS# to enforcement — how would Obama get ticketed? Home address is meaningless. Maybe a voter ID card, whatever that might be, could be used.
Drivers ID issued by your vehicle insurance company? And if they want to require training as a condition of coverage... I'm OK with that.
My point is, it shouldn't be the government issuing such a "license", but as for states registering/inspecting the vehicles operating in their state... no problem with that either.
Drunk driving was the example you used to make your point so it seemed fair to reply on that ground. As for the ticketing system I’m sure another way to identify drivers could be implemented. As another post suggested a driver could post a bond or get insurance. The insurance companies could apply whatever training and identification standards they choose to. Obviously they wouldn’t insure you if you didn’t identify yourself.
>> Drunk driving was the example you used to make your point so it seemed fair to reply on that ground.
You’re right, and I realized that when I first read your post.
Mitigating infractions through insurance is interesting. If an individual changes insurers, the local DMV could lose track of an individual’s infractions unless a uniform id system was established. Is the State ultimately responsible for keeping track of violations? Insurance companies might not want to rely on other insurers for that information.
Maybe folks should carry their tax bill to justify highway access, toll discounts, and credits for infractions.
I can't see why not. Insurance carriers already contribute to some kind of universal database don't they? If not how do they all know that I once saw a doctor for a back problem when I only told one insurer?
How does the requirement of having a driver’s license to drive limit your ability to travel freely? There are many forms of transportation that can be used in which a DL is not required.
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