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Egypt unrest: Tense stand-off in Cairo's Tahrir square : open battles.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12345656 ^ | BBC

Posted on 02/02/2011 4:41:13 AM PST by sunmars

Update : battles have started.

There is a tense stand-off in the Egyptian capital's main square, after fights broke out between supporters and opponents of beleaguered President Hosni Mubarak.

Thousands of the president's supporters had surged into Cairo's Tahrir Square, dismantling barricades set up by anti-Mubarak groups.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dictator0bama; egypt; get0ut; mb; muslimbrotherhood; sourcetitlenoturl; tahrirsquare
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To: sunmars

Mubarak looks like he has stuck his middle finger up at Obama.


161 posted on 02/02/2011 6:32:25 AM PST by sunmars
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To: Kolokotronis
the Copts I know are excited about this uprising and have confidence in the future

You are misinformed. The Copts I know prefer Mubarek and fear the rise of the MB. What you are saying is the mirror opposite of reality.

162 posted on 02/02/2011 6:32:51 AM PST by Praxeologue (io)
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To: PghBaldy
Funny how “stones” (as in rocks the size of baseballs) just happen to lay around where Arabs gather. Very odd. /sarc

Well, it's a city. A throws it at B, B throws it back at A.

I once saw a monkey on Little Rascals, pitching coconuts with more passion than this.

163 posted on 02/02/2011 6:32:51 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (BYOST -- bring your own sark tag. Thank you.)
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To: Kolokotronis
You think Egypt has a secular government????????????????????

Improve your reading skills!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What I said.

"Well, perhaps because in each case there were Islamic fundamentalists who wanted to see the more secular government toppled so they could install a more Islamic government."

Everything is not either or, but usually more so or less so. And, yes, Mubarak has been more secular than anything the Muslim Brotherhood might have in mind.

164 posted on 02/02/2011 6:33:58 AM PST by Will88
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To: EBH
Why? American reporters...I understand...Al Jazeera?

They probably can't tell the difference. These days, who can?

165 posted on 02/02/2011 6:34:27 AM PST by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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To: EBH

A lot of people there are blaming Al Jazeera for supporting the government. They don’t realize the govt pulled their accreditation and forced them to stop, and the protesters want to know why alJazeera isn’t backing them.


166 posted on 02/02/2011 6:34:49 AM PST by HushTX (If the best defense is a good offense, it's a good thing I'm really offensive.)
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To: HushTX
I’ve been having a great deal of emotional turmoil lately. One of my long time friends is an Obama supporter. Somehow he is remaining a supporter, despite EVERYTHING that shows Obama is a threat. I’m trying to reconcile that, because frankly I blame all of the libs in this country for contributing to this disaster.

How does he feel about your being a freeper and Obama opponent? I've noticed that libs tend to end "friendships" with conservatives who do not hide their politics, while conservatives tend not to count politics against friends as much.

167 posted on 02/02/2011 6:35:07 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: HushTX

No, the Mubarak lot are hunting down Al Jazeera not the anti Gov.


168 posted on 02/02/2011 6:35:58 AM PST by sunmars
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To: PghBaldy

Unfortunately, the journalists cannot see what would be the best outcome of all this: The protest plays out, the military remains the power behind the throne, but real honest to God elections are allowed in September (for the first time since the early Post WWII era). If the Muslim Brotherhood (which may account for a maximum of 20% of the vote as things now stand) becomes violent, and pushes more street demonstrations, it would be banned from the September elections. Now, as has been the case since the early nineteen fifties, the military is the key.


169 posted on 02/02/2011 6:36:08 AM PST by Melchior
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To: Steel Wolf

Is anyone else watching the BBC feed? Did anyone else hear the cries of “Allahu Akhbar” in the background?


170 posted on 02/02/2011 6:36:49 AM PST by HushTX (If the best defense is a good offense, it's a good thing I'm really offensive.)
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To: sunmars

I agree. It is evil. It also is not shocking.


171 posted on 02/02/2011 6:37:42 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: sunmars
Every protester killed becomes a martyr and is one less mouth to feed, person to house, and job to fill.

Both sides win on that result. Remember, today's protester, freedom fighter, or community organizer, becomes tommorrow's troublemaker. It's a familiar pattern to the Middle East, and one which has been repeating itself like a bad logic loop for centuries.

The thing I find revealing in Obamma's comments is that in a true democracy, time shaves the edge off of radicalism. In a democracy you have elections. Egypt's elections are in six months. What's to gain by Obamma demanding Mubarak step down now? Islamic community organizers need to get comfortable with the fact that Mubarak not running for re-election is his stepping down. An orderly transition is something which needs the departing body to impart it's business, records, policy goals, legal matters, foreign policy, and military command onto the new body. It's a process, not a stoning.

172 posted on 02/02/2011 6:38:25 AM PST by blackdog
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To: EBH

Because they openly support the protestors?


173 posted on 02/02/2011 6:41:49 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: HushTX

Could they have pulled their creds because they were supporting the mob? What right does a news organization have to preach revolution or sedition? I do not condone the heavy handed tactics of Mubarak, but something is terribly askew in the world.


174 posted on 02/02/2011 6:45:10 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: sunmars

Soros and his minions are taking notes for similar street “activities” here in the US.


175 posted on 02/02/2011 6:45:28 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Melchior

I think part of the issue is

wasn’t Mubarak stepping aside in September anyway?

wasn’t Gamal, his son, running in September?

That is how I understood things and Gamal was anticipating taking over where his father left off.

For this reason I can understand why the protesters don’t want to agree to elections under the old dictator, but I don’t think they understand completely what they are trading in for the new regime.

This is just so ultimately sad for the people.


176 posted on 02/02/2011 6:45:28 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: blackdog

FOX Business - ATM’s are being refilled.


177 posted on 02/02/2011 6:47:01 AM PST by AGreatPer (Voting for the crazy conservative gave us Ronald Reagan....Ann Coulter)
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To: EBH

Why is it that when americans become emotional in their information processing, they no longer ask logical questions? They focus on the designed emotional distraction. It makes americans so easy to con.


178 posted on 02/02/2011 6:47:48 AM PST by blackdog
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To: PghBaldy

They did’nt Al Jazeera actually presented it as is, they have had on Mubarak supporters and anti Gov supporters, quite balanced. Mubarak does not seem to like the fact that anyone is streaming any of this.


179 posted on 02/02/2011 6:47:48 AM PST by sunmars
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
I once saw a monkey on Little Rascals, pitching coconuts with more passion than this.

OTOH, if this were happening in Washington, it would be a most encouraging indicator of current testosterone levels in American males.

180 posted on 02/02/2011 6:48:14 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (BYOST -- bring your own sark tag. Thank you.)
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