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Border Fence Fund Bill Passes Senate Committee
mspatriots.com ^ | Feb. 1, 2011 | jd

Posted on 02/02/2011 6:56:18 PM PST by jdirt

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To: DoughtyOne

Can someone enlighten me as to why Mississippi takes a leadership role in it’s need for a fence?


21 posted on 02/03/2011 5:36:56 AM PST by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: 11th_VA
What a novel idea. States are going to collect money to give to the Federal Gov’t to build a fence.

No. States are going to collect money to give to the STATES to build the fence. There is no federal involvement whatsoever. We need to be careful not to confuse this effort with anything comming out of washington. This is totally a state driven solution.

22 posted on 02/03/2011 6:35:08 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: jdirt

Cash transfers to non-military personnel in foreign countries should be taxed at a rate of 100%, with the tax being fully tax deductible. Lawful citizens get all the money back when they file their taxes, and illegals working cash under the table suddenly find lower-paying jobs back the home country much more appealing as they only make 50 cents on the dollar here. We can even use the money people don’t recollect at the end of every year to build a fence. This plan chases the illegals out, and uses their own money to keep them out. Seems perfect to me!


23 posted on 02/03/2011 7:19:56 AM PST by VonMisesPieces (Free Elections. Free Markets. Free Society.)
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To: jdirt

I hate to rain on Mississippi’s parade, but (i) levying a tax on money transfers solely when they go to foreign countries would be a clear violation of the Dormant Commerce Clause (and thus could only be done by the federal government, not by a state) and (ii) the federal government, not the states, are in charge of our international borders. While it is true that federal law currently states that a fence should be built among great swaths of our border with Mexico, I don’t think that AZ or TX would be allowed build the fence themselves.


24 posted on 02/03/2011 7:21:28 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: hattend

>who has that money?<

Goldman Sachs?

The Muslim Brotherhood?

SEIU?

ACORN?


25 posted on 02/03/2011 7:22:53 AM PST by Califreak (November 2008 proved that Idiocracy isn't just a movie anymore)
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To: jdirt

Thanks for leading the way on this, Mississippi.

The central government has failed us.

The states are going to have to reassert their sovereignty.

BUMP.


26 posted on 02/03/2011 7:25:23 AM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: VonMisesPieces

“Cash transfers to non-military personnel in foreign countries should be taxed at a rate of 100%, with the tax being fully tax deductible. Lawful citizens get all the money back when they file their taxes, and illegals working cash under the table suddenly find lower-paying jobs back the home country much more appealing as they only make 50 cents on the dollar here.”


Sounds like a good idea, assuming that it is tweaked so that people who don’t have to fill out tax forms for legitimate reasons don’t get hit with a 100% tax (think of 90-year-old grandmothers without taxable investment income)when they send mome money to their grandchild in Europe. However, such tax could only be levied by the federal government, since it would be a regulation of commerce with foreign countries.


27 posted on 02/03/2011 7:27:27 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: mazda77

Probably because (it’s) border states have been so over-run, that it feels the need to defend itself. ;^)


28 posted on 02/03/2011 7:30:33 AM PST by DoughtyOne (All hail the Kenyan Prince Obama, Lord of the Skid-mark, constantly soiling himself and our nation.)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


29 posted on 02/03/2011 7:55:06 AM PST by HiJinx (What new decade?)
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To: Pelham

Good start! Thanks for the ping, Pelham.


30 posted on 02/03/2011 8:22:42 AM PST by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

1. OK already has this law.

2. The fence can be built on any private land. All they need is a permit from the county. it must be built 60 feet from the actual border.

if the federal government prohibits the states from building the border fence on public and federal land, while the states are sitting on a billion dollars, Americans will go into an outrage!!!


31 posted on 02/04/2011 8:59:07 PM PST by jdirt
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To: mazda77

Can someone enlighten me as to why Mississippi takes a leadership role in it’s need for a fence?

Because our neighbors are in mortal danger. Do we send aid when a neighbor state has a flood? hurricane? tornado?

This is no different. If people are being killed in the US, that is all our concern.

Are we the divided STates of AMerica or the United STates of America. It way past time for the States to protect us. The Federal government wants illegal aliens here. And even if they did suddenly decide to start building the border fence again, it will be another 20 years fighting on where they will get the money.

Mississippi is doing this because we care about the people in AZ, because States need to change the way they think and because it will help us too ultimately.


32 posted on 02/04/2011 9:04:49 PM PST by jdirt
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To: Blood of Tyrants

If they know who is illegal and sending money back to their countries, then why can’t they prevent them from getting jobs and then round them up and send them home?

States can’t deport as far as I know. The feds are on the catch and release plan.


33 posted on 02/04/2011 9:09:06 PM PST by jdirt
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34 posted on 02/04/2011 9:14:11 PM PST by jdirt
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OK taxes “remittances” going to foreign countries? Frankly, I can’t see how that law could withstand judicial scrutiny.

But providing money for a fund to defray the costs of private landowners building a fence near the border? That sounds fine, although I don’t know how effective it would be at keeping out illegal aliens having a fence removed from the border.


35 posted on 02/05/2011 6:26:23 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Well let’s say you have a ranch that’s 35 miles wide. If you had a fence put up in your back yard, the illegals might go around and you wouldn’t have to wake up in the middle of the night to the sound of someone sneaking around your front yard or looking in your garage. Those folks would be alot safer than it being wide open. If eventually the whole border of AZ is fenced, they will have to choose where is the easiest to get across. It would funnel people to those areas where the border patrol will be waiting.


36 posted on 02/05/2011 7:19:21 PM PST by jdirt
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To: jdirt

Good idea to tax the money they send home, but I’m not sure how Mississippi can pay for a border fence.

The State should just keep the money and uses it to fund extra law enforcement or whatever else they think of domestic utility in the discouragement of illegal aliens labor.


37 posted on 02/12/2011 1:20:08 AM PST by Monorprise
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