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Motorist found guilty of 2nd degree murder in death of Long Beach girl (I was on the jury)
Long Beach Press Telegram ^

Posted on 02/02/2011 9:45:12 PM PST by TruthHound

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To: TruthHound

He will not live long in any prison.


41 posted on 02/03/2011 12:00:29 AM PST by NoLibZone (Five time DNC backed candidate Fred Phelps: "God sent the shooter".)
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To: IrishCatholic

IC, I’m going to answer your inquiry in detail since I’m clinically OCD and this has been bottled up inside me for almost two weeks.

Three caveats: Prosecution witnesses exuded professionalism from the stand—but of course they would, even if there may have been chaos at the scene. Also, even though each (and I do mean judge, counsel and prosecutor) stressed emphatically and often that “this is not an episode of CSI”, the characters were classically animated, almost caricatures of their respective roles. I’ll elaborate by your questions below. And finally, I don’t pretend to know the legal field or parameters and constraints of conducting a trial, but I do have common sense.

The cops?

The arresting officers were Cagney and Lacy. I mean “special issue of Penthouse” material. Babes on the witness stand with Glocks on their hips. But straight-up, by-the-book professional law enforcement officers. All testimony (not just from them) eluded to almost over-the-top procedure to the point of coddling this drunk who profusely blamed the family he just mowed down. No wailing of batons. Just the proper steps from the stop, to the cuffs, to transporting to the hospital for blood testing, to booking. Bing bang boom.

The investigators?

The defense had a real James Gandolfini (Tony Soprano) ringer who couldn’t manage playing a DVD in court. We spun our wheels for 45 minutes watching him trying to get that thing to play on a PC. I finally chimed in (probably outside of my scope of allowed court behavior), “Hey, guy. That’s not a playable DVD. It’s a data CD with .mov files that you need Quicktime to play.” Finally gave up and whatever it was he wanted to submit as evidence was scrapped.

The forensics?

CSI was a short George Lopez with Judge Napolitano’s widdow’s peak and Tom Seleck’s mustache. Again, strictly business. He was the guy who walked the 1.3-mile smear of carnage twice, placing at least 75 number plaques next to evidence and taking pics. God bless him, he had to pull the mangled baby’s body from under the truck.

The D.A.?

Alanis Morissette. Great at her job, and she DID get a conviction, but... My visual communication OCD kicked in early. Google maps were dark. I had a hard time grasping time frames and witness perspectives. [In my head: “Do it this way! Map it out! Ask this question!] I actually spoke with her afterwards and she sincerely wants to hear my detailed feedback. Hey, I may find a new graphics niche gig. I don’t think she ever had an objection overruled whereas pretty much every objection by defense was overruled. Which leads me to...

The defense?

Walter Matthau. Epitome of the shyster lawyer. Couldn’t connect with the jury to save his life (or his client’s, apparently). Kept trying to form analogies that just plain made no sense at all. Paced back and forth between his notes on the defense table to the podium with long gaps in between. I found myself enacting a “filter” when he spoke because he often misspoke. “Point A...excuse me, I mean Point B.” GET IT TOGETHER, MAN! It was never established whether he was a public defender or a hired lawyer. If he was paid, I think the defendant was ripped off. There were enough examples of conflicting testimony by key witnesses to seed doubt, but he didn’t pursue that strategy. I could honestly foresee a line of defense that could have gotten the thug off for most charges, but ol’ Frisco blew it, in my opinion. I anxiously awaited his closing argument to see what his defense angle was, only to be floored that he conceded every point of contention and begged for a lower charge of manslaughter. What?

The judge?

Mike Yanagita from Fargo. Spitting image—right down to the smile. This guy knew his stuff, but very human and often humorous. That was HIS court and everyone knew it. He sincerely cared for “his jurors.” He had this gesture he’d use to say it’s us (he and the jury) against them (counsel and prosecutor). The guy next to me (Alternate Juror #2) sometimes fell asleep and started snoring. The judge only had to look at him, then me, then give just the right facial expression that told me to elbow him awake. I really liked the judge.

So my first juror experience (in almost 50 years) was interesting, while frustrating that I never got to deliberate with “the 12.” I felt like that kid always picked last for dodgeball teams. Meanwhile, I missed several important client meetings and the food upstairs was expensive, but digestible. I’m free at last.

The overall experience was positive. I’m glad I was able to fulfill my service. It was real life albeit on the dark side. But it did affect me. I haven’t slept well. I can’t shake the sensation of being on the verge of tears. A trembling volcano of emotion due for eruption. I have 4 kids myself. I gave up watching gory movies years ago. What happened to that little girl was horrifying. It could never be established when she actually died or how much she may have suffered. I can’t fathom the pain of the parents.

I know one thing. As many times in my wayward youth I drove home totally blitzed, I’ll never again get behind the wheel with so much as a jigger in me. And I’ll henceforth look twice, thrice and so on when crossing the street with my kids in tow. One guy in particular is no longer an issue. But there are more like him out there.


42 posted on 02/03/2011 12:03:27 AM PST by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: TruthHound

Death due to drunk driing is now likely to yield 2nd degree murder in California.

A couple of recent cases in Orange County went that way, including one with a sentence of 51 years in prison.

“Orange County District Attorney Tony Rackauckas said his office has won 49 convictions for drunk driving homicides since 2008.”

http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/sirens/2010/dec/23/man-gets-50-years-fatal-dui-crash/

Long Beach isn’t far from OC and this career thug criminal can expect a ery long sentence.


43 posted on 02/03/2011 12:33:23 AM PST by truth_seeker
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To: TruthHound

Having served on a capital case rape/murder jury (we convicted & gave him the death penalty), I know what you mean about the emotional trauma. Despite the awful things I saw, I can’t imagine having to deal with what you saw. Time is a great healer there. I still pray for the defendent. And for the victim’s family. And for the jury as well. Jury members & witnesses are also victims, having to go over the crime in excruciating detail.
And thank you for your service on the jury.


44 posted on 02/03/2011 12:34:37 AM PST by jasmine47 (All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you. (Gandalf))
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To: Choose Ye This Day

Losing one’s license and a fine doesn’t stop people from driving. Sadly, there are many out on the streets and highways who don’t have a driver’s license. So, this isn’t a deterrent at all.


45 posted on 02/03/2011 12:44:17 AM PST by Catsrus (Have)
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To: TruthHound

A few years ago I was called to jury duty for a drunk driving case. I ended up being the alternate. Right after the jury was seated, there was a plea bargain and so there was no need for the jury at all. It was frustrating, but still worthwhile.

Thank you for your service. It’s people like yourself who keep the wheels of justice turning.


46 posted on 02/03/2011 1:12:11 AM PST by mountainbunny
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To: anonsquared

I nominate you to be the first one accused, without trial, of a heinous crime, dragged from your car or home and having the cr@p beaten out of you.


47 posted on 02/03/2011 2:46:48 AM PST by cydcharisse (`)
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To: goldstategop

Never let a tragedy go to waste? You seem a bit reactive about this....why don’t you start another alcohol prohibition movement or maybe we should just hang anyone driving while imbibed?


48 posted on 02/03/2011 3:27:53 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: anonsquared

Pakistan or Afghanistan (or somewhere similar) is where you belong. They dispense vigilante justice over there quite a bit.


49 posted on 02/03/2011 4:03:08 AM PST by Clara Lou
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

I remember when killing people while driving drunk - even multiple offenses- was not seen as a crime.

It is a crime to drive drunk if you care about not taking innocent human life.


50 posted on 02/03/2011 4:15:20 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Lazlo in PA
Everyone deserves a defense thanks to the 6th Amendment. In some situations there is no defense, like this one.

They deserve an opportunity to provide whatever defense there is. They do not deserve the opportunity invent a defense that flies in the face of reason.

51 posted on 02/03/2011 4:17:51 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: TruthHound
The defense had argued Dinkins, who had a .20 blood alcohol content at the time of the accident, couldn't be guilty of murder because he was too drunk to know what he was doing.

I guess they had to come up with some "defense" for their client but wow... just wow.

At an early young age, I saw the carnage drunk drivers can cause in a family. I hope this scum never sees the light of day again.

52 posted on 02/03/2011 4:23:41 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: Abundy

No DH.

My logic is not flawed.

If you are a reasonable adult and you choose to consume something that makes you unreasonable, THAT IS YOUR FAULT and YOU are responsible for what you do after you consume.

Wake up. JA.


53 posted on 02/03/2011 4:27:40 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Abundy

Your analysis of my example is so shallow and weak you should weep.

The point was that if you commit a worse crime in the commission of a lesser crime, you are guilty of the greater crime, just as OJ found while stealing his own stuff.


54 posted on 02/03/2011 4:29:13 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe
wow...abbreviations for dickhead and jackass in one post...and you still don't understand the law that applies to the issues and continue to proceed based on emotion

regards

55 posted on 02/03/2011 4:32:25 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Southack

One might have argued for manslaughter up to the point where he was stopped.

Taking off afterwards clearly pushed it to murder!!


56 posted on 02/03/2011 4:38:35 AM PST by catman67
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To: TruthHound
When your children are nearing driving age, do tell them about your jury case so they don't find the urge to drive intoxicated themselves.

Thanks for serving on jury duty. It's often looked down upon but I always make it a point to go when called. Sitting on a criminal jury is an amazing and eye-opening experience.

57 posted on 02/03/2011 4:46:08 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: goldstategop
re: zero tolerance for drunk drivers!

I never cease to be amazed at our tolerance for drunk drivers. I'm convinced it's partly because so many lawmakers do it all the time. Not to mention others in positions of leadership.

Where is the MFM/Leftie Cabal on this? They get all worked up over the deaths from guns but quietly accept the deaths of a thousands every year at the hands of drunk drivers. Usually drivers who have had previous DUI convictions and frequently are driving on suspended licenses, if they have a license at all.

58 posted on 02/03/2011 6:28:53 AM PST by jwparkerjr (I would rather lose with Sarah than win with a RINO!)
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To: anonsquared
He didn't stop to allow the mob to form and perform its mob justice (which, contrary to your opinion, most people do not see as a sign of a civilized society).

He kept on driving.

Recently a kid was jaywalking blatantly and was hit, the driver drove on, and he was also hit by the car behind, who also drove on. A third car stopped and its occupant was beaten by the mob.

The first two had the right idea, apparently, because the residents of that city apparently had the same view of what constitutes “civilized” behavior as you do.

59 posted on 02/03/2011 6:35:16 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: freedumb2003

No those cases really bother me. Everybody is entitled to a defense and I do my best.
But I never get numb to the harsh realities of the cases. And the only time I celebrate in my job is when a client pays on time.
I was a prosecutor but hated working for the government. Plus I wanted more money.
The defense bar in town is actually more conservative than the DAs office.


60 posted on 02/03/2011 6:37:58 AM PST by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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