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That South Dakota Gun Mandate (A recent bill to compel SD residents to buy a firearm?)
American Thinker ^ | 02/03/2011 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 02/03/2011 7:31:54 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The recent bill that would compel every South Dakota resident to buy a firearm has created quite a stir.  And since the piece I recently wrote on the subject evoked some fairly strong emotional responses, I want to clarify a few matters.

Some respondents assumed that my article reflected a negative attitude toward guns, but nothing could be further from the Truth.  I not only believe that every good man in America should own at least one firearm, I think that every time gun manufacturers are targeted by Bloombergettes with lawsuits or legislation, we should buy another firearm to support Smith, Wesson and the rest of our friends.  My motto is, the pen is mightier than the sword...but not the AR-15.   

Then there were respondents who viewed my statement that states may lawfully compel citizens to buy firearms as advocacy of such coercion.  This is also an incorrect interpretation.  Let's discuss the correct one.

First we need a little background.  The SD bill was created as a protest, to illustrate the injustice of ObamaScare's health-insurance mandate.  The idea is that if leftists wouldn't like government to compel them to buy something they don't want, why are they compelling their fellow man to buy something he doesn't want?  And this is fine if you make clear that you are making this, and only this, libertarian moral argument.  But it serves to reinforce a dangerous misconception if observers are left with the impression that there is also legal equivalence between these two mandates, one state and one federal.

In the healthcare debate, this misconception becomes apparent when the left uses state-mandated car insurance as a precedent for federally-mandated health insurance, which isn't just mixing apples and oranges.  It's mixing a national apple supplier with a local orange seller. 

Now, this mistake is partially the result of not separating two matters when evaluating a law: That of whether it's constitutional and that of whether it's a good idea (the practical or moral dimension).  And note that something can be a good idea but unconstitutional or constitutional but a bad idea.  Now, if I point out that a proposal is constitutional, it isn't synonymous with advocacy.  And when people assume the latter and take exception to it, they err.  We must always, always, always be clear on what the Constitution says -- even if it is our own ox being gored. 

When considering this, realize that constitutional government is no guarantee of good government.  It only ensures that the government will act in accordance with the constitution in question.  And do you know what this means when that happens to be the US Constitution?

That states are still allowed to do a multitude of stupid things.

This is why the people must take great care when molding their state constitutions.

So I have no problem with gun ownership.  I don't even much care about the SD gun-ownership bill.  But I have a big problem with the implication that there is any kind of legal equivalence between it and ObamaScare.  In compelling every resident to buy a gun, SD would be acting within the bounds of the Constitution (whether wisely or not is irrelevant to this point).  But when putting a gun to our heads and forcing us to buy health insurance, the feds are exceeding those bounds.

Legally speaking, if we want to compare the SD bill and car insurance to a socialized medicine scheme, we should choose RomneyCare in Massachusetts.  They are all constitutional.  And practically speaking, if we want to compare ObamaScare to a state mandate, we should also choose RomneyCare.  They are both bad ideas.



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Dakota
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunmandate; guns; searchandfind; southdakota
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To: Ratman83

correct. my bad.


21 posted on 02/03/2011 10:52:37 AM PST by texmexis best
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To: MichiganConservative

>I don’t know if the SD constitution allows the SD law.

It does:
SD Constitution
ARTICLE XV — MILITIA
§ 2. Legislative provisions for militia.

The Legislature shall provide by law for the enrollment, uniforming, equipment and discipline of the militia and the establishment of volunteer and such other organizations or both, as may be deemed necessary for the protection of the state, the preservation of order and the efficiency and good of the service.


22 posted on 02/03/2011 2:44:40 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

>If someone were to challenge the constitutionality of Kennesaw’s firearms law, would it pass constitutional muster?

Probably.

GA Constitution
ARTICLE I. Bill of Rights
SECTION I.
Paragraph VII. Citizens, protection of.
All citizens of the United States, resident in this state , are hereby declared citizens of this state ; and it shall be the duty of the General Assembly to enact such laws as will protect them in the full enjoyment of the rights, privileges, and immunities due to such citizenship.

Paragraph VIII. Arms, right to keep and bear.
The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, but the General Assembly shall have power to prescribe the manner in which arms may be borne.

Art III. Legislative Branch
SECTION VI.
EXERCISE OF POWERS
Paragraph I. General powers.
The General Assembly shall have the power to make all laws not inconsistent with this Constitution, and not repugnant to the Constitution of the United States, which it shall deem necessary and proper for the welfare of the state.

Paragraph II. Specific powers.
(a) Without limitation of the powers granted under Paragraph I, the General Assembly shall have the power to provide by law for:
(1) Restrictions upon land use in order to protect and preserve the natural resources, environment, and vital areas of this state.
(2) A militia and for the trial by courts-martial and nonjudicial punishment of [...]


23 posted on 02/03/2011 5:53:36 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Here's the deal: Require everyone to have a gun. For those philosophically opposed, make them prove why they shouldn't have to buy one. After they qualify, then tax them for the privilege of their neighbors providing them unpaid security services.

If I have a gun and you choose not to, OK. However, my having a gun keeps my stupid gunless neighbor safe because the crooks don't know which house has a gun and which doesn't. Ergo, I provide my gunless neighbor with unpaid security. Pay up, pilgrim.

24 posted on 02/03/2011 9:45:42 PM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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