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Rand Paul: End 'welfare' to Israel
Politico ^ | February 4, 2011 | Jennifer Epstein

Posted on 02/04/2011 9:18:10 PM PST by Captain Kirk

Tea party-backed Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) isn’t sure that congressional Republicans have the guts to make the big budget cuts they’ve promised and, he said, members of the movement are becoming frustrated.

“There’s a disconnect between Republicans who want a balanced budget but aren’t maybe yet brave enough to talk about the cuts to come,” the freshman senator said in an interview with ABC News, responding to the spending plan released Thursday by the House Budget Committee chairman, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), which would cut non-defense discretionary spending by $58 billion for the rest of fiscal 2011.

“I go to a tea party, and you know what they say to me? ‘It’s not enough. It’s not enough. Where’s the other trillion you need?’” Paul said. He’s offered his own budget plan that would cut spending by $500 billion this year, including an end to all foreign aid and a dramatic reduction to the U.S. Department of Education’s budget.

Paul, son of libertarian Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas), said he is a “true believer,” determined to stand by his tea party values and not get bogged down falling in line with the GOP.

“There are always problems in our nation’s capital that are more important than party affiliation, and I will always believe that,” Paul said. “It’s not necessarily tea party versus Republican Party, but I would say that if you ask me what’s more important — tackling our nation’s deficit, our nation’s debt problems or being a Republican — I would say tackling the debt.”

Paul also defended his calls to end aid to Israel, saying they’re just part of his bigger efforts at fiscal responsibility. “I’m not singling out Israel. I support Israel. I want to be known as a friend of Israel, but

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1 posted on 02/04/2011 9:18:11 PM PST by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

You know what they say:
“the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree...


2 posted on 02/04/2011 9:20:41 PM PST by tsomer
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To: Captain Kirk

How about ending aid to Hamas and those Middle East states that sends out terrorists?????


3 posted on 02/04/2011 9:24:08 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: tsomer

its time to stop borrowing money from china and giving it to other countries. end all aid to everyone or until we pay off the 14 trillion we already owe


4 posted on 02/04/2011 9:25:12 PM PST by remaxagnt (`)
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To: Captain Kirk

Why are all freaking librarians nuts????


5 posted on 02/04/2011 9:25:25 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: ReverendJames

If that is your only criticism (was it?), you have no beef with Rand Paul since he has called for cutting off welfare to BOTH Israel in the Arabs.


6 posted on 02/04/2011 9:25:43 PM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: org.whodat

Nuts? You want to steal other people’s money and you call us nuts!


7 posted on 02/04/2011 9:26:26 PM PST by Captain Kirk (Q)
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To: Captain Kirk

Yeah Rand, lets de-fund our friends and strengthen our enemies. A mind is a terrible thing to waste.


8 posted on 02/04/2011 9:27:33 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: ReverendJames

Like Billions for jihad?

Obama’s 2009 Supplemental Appropriations for Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Pandemic Flu was revised and “passed by the full committee.” Not sure what the next step is, but based on the summary, it gives billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars to countries and entities that support Sharia law and/or harbor, hide and support those who want to destroy the U.S. and our allies.

Read the summary from David Obey’s office that was quietly released last week with nary a word from any media.

• $3.6 billion, matching the request, to expand and improve capabilities of the Afghan security forces

• $400 million, as requested, to build the counterinsurgency capabilities of the Pakistani security forces

• Afghanistan: $1.52 billion, $86 million above the request

• West Bank and Gaza: $665 million in bilateral economic, humanitarian, and security assistance for the West Bank and Gaza

• Jordan: $250 million, $250 million above the request, including $100 million for economic and $150 million for security assistance

• Egypt: $360 million, $310 million above the request, including $50 million for economic assistance, $50 million for border security, and $260 million for security assistance

• Pakistan: $1.9 billion, $591 million above the request

• Iraq: $968 million, $336 million above the request

• Oversight: $20 million, $13 million above the request, to expand oversight capacity of the State Department, USAID, and the Special Inspector General for Afghanistan to review programs in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq

• Lebanon: $74 million

• International Food Assistance: $500 million, $200 million above the request, for PL 480 international food assistance to alleviate suffering during the global economic crisis

• Refugee Assistance: $343 million, $50 million above the request, …including humanitarian assistance for Gaza. Funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency programs in the West Bank and Gaza is limited to $119 million (Note: Gaza = Hamas)

• Disaster Assistance: $200 million to avert famines and provide life-saving assistance during natural disasters and for internally displaced people around the world, including Somalia, Zimbabwe, Ethiopia, the Middle East and South Asia

• Peacekeeping: $837 million for United Nations peacekeeping operations, including an expanded mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo and a new mission in Chad and the Central African Republic

• Department of Justice: $17 million, matching the request, for counter-terrorism activities and to provide training and assistance for the Iraqi criminal justice system

The mainstream media remains silent on this but the www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=22164”>International News has now picked up the story — and then there is Obama’s $108 billion IMF bailout scheme in addition to the Supplemental.


9 posted on 02/04/2011 9:28:10 PM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: org.whodat
Damn droid_ libertarians
10 posted on 02/04/2011 9:29:20 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: ReverendJames

To be fair he would cut ALL foreign aid.


11 posted on 02/04/2011 9:29:45 PM PST by Durus (Don't talk about what you have done or what you are going to do. Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Captain Kirk

Welfare isn’t the right word - tribute is more appropriate. As for other countries - bribe money is more appropriate a term (Pakistan, Egypt etc).
Why should we cover the cost of our military providing security for other countries? A cost-plus basis of reimbursement would be more than fair. Europe, Korea, Japan, Taiwan and others can all afford to cover the cost plus a percentage - why not? If they don’t want to pay - then we leave. No baloney.
700+ bases in 120 or so countries is darned expensive - no more free ride for these sponges.


12 posted on 02/04/2011 9:29:56 PM PST by PeteCat
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To: Captain Kirk

Actually they are more blowhard morons than nuts, and at least nuts have some value.


13 posted on 02/04/2011 9:32:35 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: Captain Kirk

Hey Rand, if you’re reading this, how ‘bout you first focus on ending aid to 4th world sh!tholes that provide no vested interest in our national security.

what a friggin jackass.


14 posted on 02/04/2011 9:32:50 PM PST by Hammerhead
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To: Captain Kirk

The U.S. should be providing military aid to our RELIABLE allies - that includes Israel.

We SHOULD be cutting ALL aid to the U.N., and funds given to foreign ratholes where we have no strategic interest.

Paul should keep his mouth shut when it comes to foreign policy and stick to domestic issues. Like his father, he is as much a foreign policy idiot as the moron in the White House.


15 posted on 02/04/2011 9:33:00 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: Durus
Just wondering if Israeli aid is a guilt trip. Several other European governments send aid. Not that I'm against it. You have a country the size of Santa Barbara county surrounded by her enemies. Photobucket
16 posted on 02/04/2011 9:34:18 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White)
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To: org.whodat
Why are all freaking librarians nuts????

It's the Dewey decimal system

17 posted on 02/04/2011 9:36:43 PM PST by byteback
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To: Captain Kirk

Egypt first.


18 posted on 02/04/2011 9:36:45 PM PST by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Punish Success, Reward Failure. Destroying America is the point.)
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To: Captain Kirk

Israel probably does not need our money; they may have benefited from us providing some technology, but it has worked both ways.

We use money to buy favors and influence. With a true, solvent friend you don’t need to do that.

We’re the ones who are not solvent. But if we were, and were handing out money for fun , Israel would be the last friend I cut off, preceded by Great Britain and Canada and Australia.


19 posted on 02/04/2011 9:37:12 PM PST by One Name
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Well, this is a blanket cut off of all foreign aid, not just to Israel, I can see his point in desiring fiscal responsbility, however I also think that at this point in time he is off base.

A part of me also thinks that maybe the apron strings should be snipped as “Israel” has become much much softer than it used to be..that is to their peril.


20 posted on 02/04/2011 9:40:19 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Captain Kirk

Why would we take from our allies and keep giving to those that want us DEAD?Is the world up side down because every where I go it seems these morons are making some of the biggest, idiotic decisions ever..


21 posted on 02/04/2011 9:43:30 PM PST by VairyAngel ("OUR GOVERNMENT IS NOW OUR ENEMY")
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To: Captain Kirk

For anyone who’s thought it through, cutting off US aid to Israel would put them at real risk of being overrun by their many enemies. Israel has extraordinarily large defense needs for a nation of their size. I hope the US continues helping with those needs, and I hate to see Rand Paul sounding like a nut so early in his senatorial career.

That’s one foreign aid program we should continue above all others, unless someone wants to see that nation overrun.


22 posted on 02/04/2011 9:43:35 PM PST by Will88
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To: byteback

thanks - you provided my last laugh of the day!


23 posted on 02/04/2011 9:45:40 PM PST by Sioux-san
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To: ZULU

Well, here is what bothers me deeply about the direction Israel herself is heading:

The Lebanon War

At one time the IDf and IAF would have made short work of the terrorists, this past time they did not show the resolve they had previously, they hung back and tried to use artillery and air strikes and it just did not work.

That was a wake up call for me, have the Israelis lost that sense of what it takes just to survive in that region?


24 posted on 02/04/2011 9:48:16 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Captain Kirk
an end to all foreign aid and a dramatic reduction to the U.S. Department of Education’s budget.

Simple solution to the Education budget - ship all the illegals and anchor kids back to wherever they came from (not that that will ever happen). We still need to protect our foreign interests so instead of an all out end to foreign aid (again, will never happen) buta drastic cut to foreign aid.

25 posted on 02/04/2011 9:48:22 PM PST by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: Captain Kirk

Laurence Kotlikoff

Aug. 11 (Bloomberg) — Laurence Kotlikoff, an economics professor at Boston University, talks about the state of the U.S. economy. Kotlikoff speaks with Erik Schatzker on Bloomberg Television’s InsideTrack.” (Source: Bloomberg)
Let’s get real. The U.S. is bankrupt. Neither spending more nor taxing less will help the country pay its bills.

What it can and must do is radically simplify its tax, health-care, retirement and financial systems, each of which is a complete mess. But this is the good news. It means they can each be redesigned to achieve their legitimate purposes at much lower cost and, in the process, revitalize the economy.

Last month, the International Monetary Fund released its annual review of U.S. economic policy. Its summary contained these bland words about U.S. fiscal policy: “Directors welcomed the authorities’ commitment to fiscal stabilization, but noted that a larger than budgeted adjustment would be required to stabilize debt-to-GDP.”

But delve deeper, and you will find that the IMF has effectively pronounced the U.S. bankrupt. Section 6 of the July 2010 Selected Issues Paper says: “The U.S. fiscal gap associated with today’s federal fiscal policy is huge for plausible discount rates.” It adds that “closing the fiscal gap requires a permanent annual fiscal adjustment equal to about 14 percent of U.S. GDP.”

The fiscal gap is the value today (the present value) of the difference between projected spending (including servicing official debt) and projected revenue in all future years.

Double Our Taxes

To put 14 percent of gross domestic product in perspective, current federal revenue totals 14.9 percent of GDP. So the IMF is saying that closing the U.S. fiscal gap, from the revenue side, requires, roughly speaking, an immediate and permanent doubling of our personal-income, corporate and federal taxes as well as the payroll levy set down in the Federal Insurance Contribution Act.

Such a tax hike would leave the U.S. running a surplus equal to 5 percent of GDP this year, rather than a 9 percent deficit. So the IMF is really saying the U.S. needs to run a huge surplus now and for many years to come to pay for the spending that is scheduled. It’s also saying the longer the country waits to make tough fiscal adjustments, the more painful they will be.

Is the IMF bonkers?

No. It has done its homework. So has the Congressional Budget Office whose Long-Term Budget Outlook, released in June, shows an even larger problem.

‘Unofficial’ Liabilities

Based on the CBO’s data, I calculate a fiscal gap of $202 trillion, which is more than 15 times the official debt. This gargantuan discrepancy between our “official” debt and our actual net indebtedness isn’t surprising. It reflects what economists call the labeling problem. Congress has been very careful over the years to label most of its liabilities “unofficial” to keep them off the books and far in the future.

For example, our Social Security FICA contributions are called taxes and our future Social Security benefits are called transfer payments. The government could equally well have labeled our contributions “loans” and called our future benefits “repayment of these loans less an old age tax,” with the old age tax making up for any difference between the benefits promised and principal plus interest on the contributions.

The fiscal gap isn’t affected by fiscal labeling. It’s the only theoretically correct measure of our long-run fiscal condition because it considers all spending, no matter how labeled, and incorporates long-term and short-term policy.

$4 Trillion Bill

How can the fiscal gap be so enormous?

Simple. We have 78 million baby boomers who, when fully retired, will collect benefits from Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid that, on average, exceed per-capita GDP. The annual costs of these entitlements will total about $4 trillion in today’s dollars. Yes, our economy will be bigger in 20 years, but not big enough to handle this size load year after year.

This is what happens when you run a massive Ponzi scheme for six decades straight, taking ever larger resources from the young and giving them to the old while promising the young their eventual turn at passing the generational buck.

Herb Stein, chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under U.S. President Richard Nixon, coined an oft-repeated phrase: “Something that can’t go on, will stop.” True enough. Uncle Sam’s Ponzi scheme will stop. But it will stop too late.

And it will stop in a very nasty manner. The first possibility is massive benefit cuts visited on the baby boomers in retirement. The second is astronomical tax increases that leave the young with little incentive to work and save. And the third is the government simply printing vast quantities of money to cover its bills.

Worse Than Greece

Most likely we will see a combination of all three responses with dramatic increases in poverty, tax, interest rates and consumer prices. This is an awful, downhill road to follow, but it’s the one we are on. And bond traders will kick us miles down our road once they wake up and realize the U.S. is in worse fiscal shape than Greece.

Some doctrinaire Keynesian economists would say any stimulus over the next few years won’t affect our ability to deal with deficits in the long run.

This is wrong as a simple matter of arithmetic. The fiscal gap is the government’s credit-card bill and each year’s 14 percent of GDP is the interest on that bill. If it doesn’t pay this year’s interest, it will be added to the balance.

Demand-siders say forgoing this year’s 14 percent fiscal tightening, and spending even more, will pay for itself, in present value, by expanding the economy and tax revenue.

My reaction? Get real, or go hang out with equally deluded supply-siders. Our country is broke and can no longer afford no- pain, all-gain “solutions.”

(Laurence J. Kotlikoff is a professor of economics at Boston University and author of “Jimmy Stewart Is Dead: Ending the World’s Ongoing Financial Plague with Limited Purpose Banking.” The opinions expressed are his own.)


26 posted on 02/04/2011 9:50:38 PM PST by taxtruth (Don't end the fed,jail the fed!)
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To: padre35

Jorge was President back then, Like HUSSEIN is President now.

They rely on our aid and assistance and are reluctant to be overly aggressive if the Idiot-in-Charge in the Oval Office has a love affair with people like the Saudis.

They are stuck between a rock and a hard place with Obama as they were with his predecessor.


27 posted on 02/04/2011 9:56:42 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which ever attempted to tolerate Islam, escaped total Islamization.)
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To: Durus

>To be fair he would cut ALL foreign aid.

And, you know, I really don’t have a problem with that stance.
Those who raise the issue of Israel being God’s people should consider what Paul said wrote:
1 Timothy 5:8 — But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

If this concept can be extended to a government whose “own house” would be its own Citizens, then they cannot legitimately argue that we-as-a-country should give monies {which we really don’t have} to Israel or anyone else.


28 posted on 02/04/2011 10:02:04 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ZULU

Well ZULU, it wasn’t GWB who avoided close contact with the Terrs, that was the PM and the Generals, in fact iirc they sacked a General over the performance in that conflict.

The IDF did not wish to take the hit in terms of deaths and serious injuries among their soldiers, which was completely out of character for the IDF as they would use stealth when needed they also used brass gonads and aggression in past wars.

NOT cheerleading for fine young men and women in the IDF to suffer casualties, more pointing out that such sacrifices are what is required to survive as a State in that region.

I’m reminded of the change in the Romans tactics as the Empire aged, when they were successful they used short swords as they closed with enemies and defeated them, as the Empire aged, swords grew longer so they could fight at a distance.

YMMV


29 posted on 02/04/2011 10:04:23 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Captain Kirk

I’d rather give the money to Israel than Illinois.


30 posted on 02/04/2011 10:05:01 PM PST by februus
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To: Captain Kirk

Tea Party Caucus or no — Rand has lost credibility with this. I’m still waiting for my Senator, Jim Demint, to rebuke his fellow Caucus member for this stupidity.


31 posted on 02/04/2011 10:07:33 PM PST by patriot preacher
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To: Captain Kirk
If that is your only criticism (was it?), you have no beef with Rand Paul since he has called for cutting off welfare to BOTH Israel in the Arabs.

If you cannot see the total lack of morality in that position you are totally helpless, as Rand Paul and his nutty Father are.

One country shares are values and will not survive without our help.

All the others in the region are our enemies to one extent or the other.

Libertartians, basically greedy amoral Republicans.

Just half-conservatives.
32 posted on 02/04/2011 10:07:57 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: OneWingedShark

The Scriptural case can also be made that Israel was rejected when they relied on foreigners instead of God.

However, there is also the reality that few, if any, nations would be willing to sell/grant advanced military tech to Israel and we also have Treaties with them that cannot simply be tossed overboard because they are inconvenient at the moment.


33 posted on 02/04/2011 10:08:56 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: februus

>I’d rather give the money to Israel than Illinois.

If the FedGov bails out States, there is a real chance for a civil war.
The argument “you have representatives” was given to the colonists [referring to the house of commons] as the excuse/invalidation of their claims of being taxed w/o representation; likewise, if the FedGov gives monies collected from other states to another state then the residents of those other states have NO say in how that money is handled.

We are close to “interesting times,” I think.


34 posted on 02/04/2011 10:11:36 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SoConPubbie

>One country shares are values and will not survive without our help.

Two nitpicks:
1 — ‘Our’ not ‘are.’
2 — That assumes that their God will not help them; as a Christian, and having read Revelation, I can’t see that as happening on the permanent basis that “kill all Jews” would result in (that is to say, God will ensure a remnant survives).


35 posted on 02/04/2011 10:15:12 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: patriot08

We also give billions to China. Why?


36 posted on 02/04/2011 10:15:29 PM PST by stilloftyhenight (Don't make me use uppercase.)
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To: Captain Kirk
We need to borrow money from foreign countries to give welfare to Hamas, Egypt and a country with a top-tier per capita income. Beyond retarded.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/feb/04/rand-paul/rand-paul-says-israels-capita-income-greater-proba/

End foreign aid.

37 posted on 02/04/2011 10:16:03 PM PST by speciallybland
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To: padre35

I’m not saying we should utterly ignore them; just that the priority of the US government can ONLY rightly be US Citizens.
{Look at the disparity between treatment of citizens and illegal-aliens and you tell me that the US government has ANY priority on the Citizen.}


38 posted on 02/04/2011 10:17:59 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Captain Kirk

Oy Vey......


39 posted on 02/04/2011 10:24:38 PM PST by Gator113 (I'm voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: patriot08

The aid we send Jihadis if far greater than what we send Israel, especially since the jihadis leverage cheap, imprecise weapons like suicide belts and car bombs. Israel must use surgical precision for counter attacks.

Israel would come out ahead if we cut off all foreign aid.


40 posted on 02/04/2011 10:27:12 PM PST by UnwashedPeasant (Don't nuke me, bro)
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To: org.whodat

They are just cheap liberals, that is why.


41 posted on 02/04/2011 10:38:29 PM PST by JaneNC (I)
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To: Captain Kirk

What’s your Stormfront nick, Kirk?


42 posted on 02/04/2011 11:16:40 PM PST by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: Captain Kirk

FURP.


43 posted on 02/04/2011 11:20:51 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: OneWingedShark

That is true, it is the reverse of the injunction not to treat a Foreigner in an unjust manner, the Foreigner actually has far more license to disregard our laws than the Citizen.


44 posted on 02/04/2011 11:28:29 PM PST by padre35 (You shall not ignore the laws of God, the Market, the Jungle, and Reciprocity Rm10.10)
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To: Captain Kirk
His father Ron Paul has been and is a nut and it looks like his son Rand Paul is an ANTISEMITE and a nut as well.

Almighty God has promised the following regarding HIS special people Israel: "I will bless those who bless you and CURSE those who curse you." Hey Rand Paul... that goes for America too!

It looks like Rand Paul wants to throw Israel under the bus. It is the same old song and dance: "It's all the JEWS fault." ... "If we get rid of Israel and the Jews and our support for Israel then all of our problems will be solved and the world will love us."

America... Israel is the ONLY free nation and true friend America has in the Middle East and Rand Paul and his ilk want to bring the curse of almighty God upon America by throwing them under the bus!

Rand Paul, does not represent the Tea Party, he does not represent CONSERVATIVES and he does not represent me. He makes me ashamed to be an American!

45 posted on 02/04/2011 11:34:34 PM PST by Jmouse007 (Lord deliver us from evil and from those perpetuating it, in Jesus name, amen.)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Why do we have to pay for our allies?

Our allies should be paying US for protecting THEM.

Sheesh.


46 posted on 02/05/2011 12:07:20 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: All; Captain Kirk
What part of this statement do you Freepers not understand?

"I’m not singling out Israel."

Instead of reason, all I see are knee-jerk reactions smearing Paul as an anti-Semitic bigot.

47 posted on 02/05/2011 1:19:03 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: newzjunkey

How about SEPARATING friends for enemies, instead of treating them alike?


48 posted on 02/05/2011 1:22:07 AM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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To: Captain Kirk

Dear Rand Paul, the Christians trust the Israelites to preserve our Christian heritage more than we trust the Islamists. Should Israel fall, Christian landmarks also fall, as any non-islamic relics would immediately be destroyed. In the bigger picture, I don’t mind paying Israel to play security guard.


49 posted on 02/05/2011 1:25:44 AM PST by blueplum
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To: newzjunkey
Instead of reason, all I see are knee-jerk reactions smearing Paul as an anti-Semitic bigot.

Because that's what his dad is...?

50 posted on 02/05/2011 1:28:32 AM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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