Posted on 02/05/2011 10:11:44 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
The White House is now openly pushing for replacing Egypt President Hosni Mubarak with a temporary caretaker government that includes the military and is applauding a decision by Mubarak’s son to step down as head of the country’s ruling party.
But a senior administration official said those steps weren’t enough - and suggested that Mubarak needs to take “additional steps” to quell the chaos in the streets of Cairo, which is threatening to sink Egypt’s already foundering economy.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, speaking to a conference of allies in Munich, Germany, on Saturday, expressed support for a transition effort led by the country’s vice president, Gen. Omar Suleiman - and said it was vital for Suleiman to reach out to all opposition groups, including the banned Muslim Brotherhood.
“There are certain things that have to be done in order to prepare” for open elections, Clinton told European leaders.
And in another signal that the administration sees Suleiman as key to resolving the crisis, the White House said Vice President Biden spoke with Suleiman on Saturday about “progress in beginning credible, inclusive negotiations for Egypt’s transition to a democratic government to address the aspirations of the Egyptian people.”
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Well some "aspirations" are more legit than others, I guess.
Should not be a surprise. They did exactly the same thing with Honduras. Except, then, they were bound and determined to keep a wannabe dictator in power.
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That's exactly right....Few have mentioned the world having a "leaderless quality" about it now... Good observation on your part, though of course the current leaders would not think so....... However, standing back and considering those in power, there really are no strong decisive leaders. They're all making political moves in which to secure their personal positions as the march for one world governance moves along and at the same time appear interested in the welfare of their populace...which their populace really is least considered, only in regard as to sustaining them in power.
If by NO ONE you mean Obama, then the NY Times says indeed Obama wanted the nearly assassinated freshly minted VP of Egypt to be Mubarak's successor.
Small problem with Obama's plan: under the Egyptian constitution, the head of parliament is the presidential successor, not the VP.
No, He is not nor can Bo be that, and he does not believe he is. Though no one will dispute his arrogance etc. has no bounds. There are far too many events and staging yet before the anti-Christ steps forward and besides Bo does not fit the definition of THE anti-Christ, he's not aceepted on the world stage as a competant leader and they see him as weak and rather scattered brained...he simply is "played" by nations leadership, and he's too full of himself to see that.
How do you explain that Farrakhan has proclaimed him the "messiah" (that would be Mahdi)? Do you think he didn't bother to confirm that with Obama?
Even Obama's iconography states loudly..."I am the awaited one." ("I am the One you have been waiting for").
You may not think he is the Mahdi (and you may be right), but you obviously don't speak for Obama!
BTW, you say that Obama doesn't meet the requirements for the AC...but if you will notice, I said Mahdi, and he does meet those requirements according to Islamic scholars.
And for that matter, what in your opinion are the requirements for AC that he fails to meet?
There was a thread on this pulled last night. We do not discuss troop movement on FR. It could endanger our fighting men and woman.
Is Barack Obama the "promised warrior" coming to help the Hidden Imam of Shiite Muslims conquer the world?The question has made the rounds in Iran since last month, when a pro-government Web site published a Hadith (or tradition) from a Shiite text of the 17th century. The tradition comes from Bahar al-Anvar (meaning Oceans of Light) by Mullah Majlisi, a magnum opus in 132 volumes and the basis of modern Shiite Islam. According to the tradition, Imam Ali Ibn Abi-Talib (the prophet's cousin and son-in-law) prophesied that at the End of Times and just before the return of the Mahdi, the Ultimate Saviour, a "tall black man will assume the reins of government in the West." Commanding "the strongest army on earth," the new ruler in the West will carry "a clear sign" from the third imam, whose name was Hussein Ibn Ali. The tradition concludes: "Shiites should have no doubt that he is with us." In a curious coincidence Obama's first and second names--Barack Hussein--mean "the blessing of Hussein" in Arabic and Persian. His family name, Obama, written in the Persian alphabet, reads O Ba Ma, which means "he is with us," the magic formula in Majlisi's tradition.
BTW, what we call Obama's incompetence depends on his goals. If his goal is to destroy the American economy, he has done quite well. If his goal is to betray our traditional allies, he has done quite well. If his goal is to foment trouble in Egypt (he has for months now had his agents laying the groundwork for the trouble in Egypt), he has been quite successful.
You may not agree (and, again, you may in the end be correct) but there is a rather extensive case to be made that Obama is attempting to create a fundamental muslim Caliphate and install himself as Caliph.
In the end, there is also plenty of evidence that Obama has personally created and micromanaged his messianic iconography. It was his idea to speak at the Victory Column in Berlin and it was his idea to use the Pergamon Altar (Throne of Satan) as the backdrop to his Denver speech. As he said to Harry Reid, "I have a gift"...he was referring to his ability to use teleprompters to deliver a speech heavily laden with neuro-linguistic programming cues and techniques. That cannot be instructed from behind the scenes by puppet masters. Either he has the ability and the will to use it...or he doesn't.
That said, he did use it and accordingly hypnotize huge numbers of liberals.
Long story short, as much as he appears to be an idiot from a conservative POV, he has been quite effective at accomplishing his apparent goals so far.
You put credibility in anything Farrakhan states? Why? He’s a nut case and welds no power whatsoever among leadership in any nation...including ours. He’s simply tolerated until needed.
No He does not meet the requirements of the Mahadi....first and simply enough..he’s married with children. Nough said.
I am sorry. It was that thread was referencing. I will refrain from now on. Thank you.
This is a repost from an earlier thread.:
Yehuda, you should remember bill clinton’s philosophy. Don’t get mad, get even. 0 is at the end of the road here as far as what he can do legislatively and what he HAS done is being dismantled piece by piece. Virtually all of his “initiatives” were what clinton tried to do but couldn’t with a Republican Congress.
So start connecting some dots here.
Both clinton and 0 despise Israel, albeit for different reasons. clinton has a whitehot hatred for Netanyahu and thought he had destroyed him forever. He thought Israel would be long gone under his toy, Barak. arafat saved Israel then.
However, clinton was desperate to win himself a Nobel. He needed mubarak to do the last gasp effort at Sharm. They were feuding over Egypt Air and mubarak refused to hold negotiations without a quid pro quo from clinton. clinton gave him the USS Cole.
mubarak then agreed to HOLD the talks at Sharm, but refused to bring any pressure to bear on arafat. A US warship and 17 American Sailors that the VOA would not even acknowlege without making a moral equivalency between OUR Sailors and some dead PA terrorists killed by the IDF, was for nothing.
clinton returned home from Egypt emptyhanded and angry. He had almost nothing to say about the Cole. Not a press release, not a strong statement. He blew by reporters and that was that.
clinton did not get his prize and he blamed mubarak for it.
Fast forward.
Since Netanyahu was reelected, they have been using the same tactics they used against him the first time. Netanyahu has stayed a step ahead of every move they have made. In the old days, he gave in on Hebron for a PERSONAL promise from clinton only to find that clinton had betrayed him. THIS time, 0 used the “personal” promise of fighter jets. THIS time, Netanyahu said put it in writing. You saw how far that went.
Israel has withstood the onslaught from this administration and refused to have Israel commit slow suicide like Barak would have with clinton, like Sharon and Olmert did with george bush.
The bush admin refused to allow Israel to end hizbullah in Lebanon. Lebanon is gone and hizbullah is stronger than ever. The bush administration allowed hamas to take over Gaza with nary a whimper and still insisted that Israel give up even more land without receiving a damn thing in return. bush’s personal guardian in the WH was the muslim daughter of an Egyptian general who had more access to him than any other human being except his wife.
0 went to turkey and turkey went hardline...against Israel. 0 went to Egypt and personally invited the muslim brotherhood to his speech, choosing specific passages from the koran that the western world still doesn’t understand.
hillary clinton and bill clinton set the scene. Tunisia was the dry run.
clinton has now gotten his revenge on mubarak and they are one step closer to wiping Israel off the map which has been the COVERT intention and goal of every American president, (with one notable exception,) and most of Europe since WWII...worse since Carter. They could not do it diplomatically so there MUST be war.
The “notable exception” was not out of love for Israel but out of fear of the Soviet Union.
arafat should have never, ever lived to do the damage he did, and I have to include Reagan here because Israel had him, and Reagan saved him. The French gave him an honor guard. I will never understand why until the day I die.
The American people are becoming restless now. The left and the powers that be need a way to control us because they fear us, They know they can’t turn our own miltary on us. How many muslims have they imported into this country under the radar?
They think they have two more years in power without a fight. Then what?
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People, this is about isolating Israel, bringing the US to its knees, and by so doing, condemning the world to war. There is no turning back from this. The real wildcard here, and what no one is paying attention to, is Russia. Everyone thinks that Russia is still the evil empire. Those roles have been reversed at this point in time. Russia is the “good news” from the North that will allow Israel to win this final battle. Under this administration, we have joined Amalek. We are on the wrong side. Nothing is going to stop obama because his time is short. He will do what he will do because he does not care if he is ever reelected to anything and he is first and foremost, a muslim.
You can call me crazy. You can laugh and tell me to take off the tinfoil. But I know prophecy and I know reality,and what I have seen is every single detail of the ONE prophecy that has yet to be fulilled, fulfulling itself in front of my eyes.
The price for this will be very, very high.
lol...nough said?
What is your source for the "married with children" exclusion? Of all the comments I have read of islamic scholars who study this issue, I have yet to find one who has mentioned that characteristic.
VARIOUS CHARACTERISTICS OF AL MAHDI
- He Heralds the Paradise
- He will be the best of his time
- His name is mentioned in the Holy Books revealed to the Prophets
- He will have good moral character
- He will be much loved by everyone
- He will be contender
- His power of guiding
- His innate knowledge
- He will be informed of the Cifr (Abjad) Knowledge
- He is to be bettered
- That he is on the way to prophethood
- He is to encounter trials and tribulations
- He will be spied on - followed
- The Dajjal will try to torture Al Mahdi
- Vicious propagandas will be spread against him
- His Immigration
- His Physical Appearance
- His speaking
He might fancy kimself the mahdi because he is a certifiable fruitloop, but he is not the mahdi. He is the one who will create the chaos in the world that brings the mahdi. And that is how amalek sees him. That is his role. And he is fulfilling it grandly.
You are witnessing the marked division of Gog and Magog.
You’ve answered your own questions by posting this list. Bo fails on many of these...look closer.
Just kidding. There are too many points in your old post to mention, but I agree with your current assessment in every way except that I am not yet as sanguine about Russia as you. Re: Russia, I defer to your more extensive study of the situation.
Just as with Christian eschatology, there is so much room for interpretation and for error that it is difficult to make, as you have, hard and fast conclusions.
But let me once again ask you...where is the "married with children exclusion"?
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