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Hawaii's Governor Manipulates Birthers
The American Thinker ^ | 02/06/2011 | Andrew Walden

Posted on 02/06/2011 1:12:17 AM PST by speciallybland

Hawaii's newly elected "DSA-er Democrat" Governor Neil "I am not a socialist" Abercrombie is the birthers' best friend -- and many commentators in Hawaii and across the nation are becoming increasingly annoyed by his antics.

In two recent interviews, with just a few anti-birthy words in December 24 and January 18 interviews magnified and distorted by the national and international media, Abercrombie has succeeded in raising birtherism from the dead. And both he and President Barack Obama are very pleased with the opportunity to shift political discussion away from the thumping Obama took in the November midterms.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 2012; barry; birthers; certifigate; eligibility; hawaii; jarrett; naturalborncitizen; no2ndterm; soetoro; usurper; weknow
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1 posted on 02/06/2011 1:12:22 AM PST by speciallybland
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To: speciallybland
And both he [Abercrombie] and President Barack Obama are very pleased with the opportunity to shift political discussion away from the thumping Obama took in the November midterms.

Right, it's a convenient distraction to the bigger issues facing an entire nation.

2 posted on 02/06/2011 1:16:06 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Time for an 0bambi “under the bus” moment


3 posted on 02/06/2011 1:25:15 AM PST by spokeshave (WTF....the only thing 0bambi's investments will get us is a bullet train to bankruptcy.)
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To: speciallybland
And both he and President Barack Obama are very pleased with the opportunity to shift political discussion away from the thumping Obama took in the November midterms.

The 'real' thumping BamBam got will not bear fruit unless or until these Republican wins across the '57' states pass legislation requiring any and all candidates to provide legitimate documentation of eligibility.... Then the pigs will really squeal 'conspiracy'.

4 posted on 02/06/2011 1:34:54 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: speciallybland
Some good comments from this poster from the website about this article:

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"Posted by: Tav  

Feb 06, 02:33 AM

"And both he and President Barack Obama are very pleased with the opportunity to shift political discussion away from the thumping Obama took in the November midterms"

And you "know" this astounding counter-intuitive claim to be true, just how again? From your time working as the apprentice of Madam Zelda, the mind reading Gypsy? In case you somehow had not noticed, there is a whole plethora of things that have shifted political discussion away from the "thumping" Obama took in the elections of 3 some months ago. Things had shifted before Abercrombie had even bragged that he would find proof and present proof that Obama was born in Hawaii (i.e. Obama's Birth Certificate). What would you be saying if Abercrombie had found and presented an Obama Birth Certificate? That both he and Obama were heart broken? If it's hot, it's global warming; if it's cold, it's global warming. This is Al Gore level balderdash.

"It should be no surprise that Abercrombie is doing everything he can to increase the visibility of birtherism in the run-up to the 2012 elections. "

Actually Abercrombie seems to have gone rather silent now. But in any case, I heard this very same double-think spin nonsense during the run-up to the 2010 elections (that would be the elections YOU spoke of earlier) and about how it would help, and help big time, Obama and Democrats in that election. How did that work out for them again? "

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Andrew Walden edits HawaiiFreePress.com.

So the author is a propagandist from Hawaii.

5 posted on 02/06/2011 1:35:11 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: speciallybland

Listen to Mike Evans twist and squirm as he tries to talk his way out of this thing ... but admits, yeah, they don’t seem to be able to find anything at Kapi’olani or Queens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lkYK_QcqHY&feature=related


6 posted on 02/06/2011 1:43:06 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: speciallybland

A load of BS.


7 posted on 02/06/2011 1:45:45 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: speciallybland
Actually I think Abercommie drank Obama's Fool-Aid. He probably also read Barry's autofictionography and believes in his heart all that Barry wrote -er had written about himself.

This is pure and simple Abercommie is like those in the media. They have been reading their own press and actually believe what they have written for these past two years. Deep down in their heart they know Barry Soetoro is hiding something now. As Barry destroys the Democrat party they are going to be looking for anyway to jettison him VERY SOON!

The facts that remain... Barry has told us he has a KENYAN father. He is also afraid to release the document that reveals his hospital of birth and the doctor who delivered him! Those facts are indisputable.

8 posted on 02/06/2011 1:52:41 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: speciallybland

“Berg is a prominent 9-11 truther who sued the Bush administration several times in an effort to prove that al-Qaeda was innocent. Another prominent Birther lawyer, Orly Taitz, is a $1,000 donor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign committee. Her website has prominently featured the rants of 9-11 truther Devvy Kidd.”

Nice.


9 posted on 02/06/2011 1:58:04 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
“Berg is a prominent 9-11 truther who sued the Bush administration several times in an effort to prove that al-Qaeda was innocent. Another prominent Birther lawyer, Orly Taitz, is a $1,000 donor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign committee. Her website has prominently featured the rants of 9-11 truther Devvy Kidd.” Nice.

And it was Hillary Clinton who 'birthed' both ..... Truther on that infamous day when she took to the Senate floor with her New York newspaper and asked 'What did Bush know and when did he know it?'

And of course was not Berg also working on her presidential campaign when the 'birth' question got birthed?

Question is what did Hillary Clinton know and when did she know it to start this vast left wing conspiracy? She started all this.

10 posted on 02/06/2011 2:04:34 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: missnry

“He is also afraid to release the document that reveals his hospital of birth and the doctor who delivered him! Those facts are indisputable.”
__________________________________

It has been my contention that Obozo was an absolute fool
not to just claim, “To my knowledge, I was delivered by a midwife in a home birth”.

That would give him a perfect out for not having a REAL birth certificate, as most of us have.

I think they just thought that the issue would never come up, and when it did, it was too late to make the home birth claim.


11 posted on 02/06/2011 2:05:25 AM PST by AlexW
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To: Just mythoughts
And it was Hillary Clinton who 'birthed' both

True. And it's quite sad that so many "real conservatives" still cling to a last-ditch smear from a desperate, fading Hillary Clinton primary campaign.

12 posted on 02/06/2011 2:07:56 AM PST by speciallybland
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To: AlexW
It has been my contention that Obozo was an absolute fool not to just claim, “To my knowledge, I was delivered by a midwife in a home birth”. That would give him a perfect out for not having a REAL birth certificate, as most of us have. I think they just thought that the issue would never come up, and when it did, it was too late to make the home birth claim.

I disagree. The Senate resolving lord McCain's eligibility was the vehicle that began the manipulation at the highest levels. The manipulation continues as the left continues to jut out its political chin and ridicules US as they form their new world ordered serfdom. And the highest level Republicans cower into the corners and willingly ignore the heaps of lies and deception. Fear is not a pretty sight and that is what I see/hear when nobody of any political stature refuses to require 'sun' light on a dark mystery.

13 posted on 02/06/2011 2:14:46 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: speciallybland
That's right. We're bitter clingers and proud of it. ;^)

0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Obama 1964 Divorce Papers - 13 Pages - Missing Pg 11
24 Why isn't Barack Obama still a member of the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why isn't Michelle Obama still a member of the Illinois bar, after only about four years of practice, and where are all of the relevant documents?

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

14 posted on 02/06/2011 2:17:12 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Just mythoughts

“Question is what did Hillary Clinton know and when did she know it to start this vast left wing conspiracy? She started all this.”

Yes she did.

And if Obama was born in Kenya, I guarantee you that Bill, Hillary, their agents and minions would have had the proof for all of us to see the moment there was a rumor that Obama was going to run for president.

And then there is Orly Taitz who could walk into a courtroom with a client accused of jaywalking and walk out of that same courtroom ten minutes later with that now former client sentenced to twenty years hard labor for jaywalking.


15 posted on 02/06/2011 2:18:00 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: speciallybland
True. And it's quite sad that so many "real conservatives" still cling to a last-ditch smear from a desperate, fading Hillary Clinton primary campaign.

I disagree. Hillary did not 'fade' she was out maneuvered by the very political tactics she was trained to use against her opponents. Certainly does not mean there was not fire in her smoke. Liberals know they win by spewing lies and deception to cause 'fear'.

16 posted on 02/06/2011 2:18:53 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: trumandogz

You’re gonna get it for that....even if it does make sense. Put on your flak jacket.


17 posted on 02/06/2011 2:20:23 AM PST by RushLake (Liberalism/Progressivism--Domestic terrorism financed by your tax dollars.)
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To: Just mythoughts

“I disagree. The Senate resolving lord McCain’s eligibility.....”
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Well, you can disagree all you like, but I have absolutely no idea what that has to do with my post.

I do realize that if McStain had won, the left would be all over his birth issues, but that has zero to do with the Obambie issue.


18 posted on 02/06/2011 2:21:44 AM PST by AlexW
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To: RushLake
And if Obama was born in Kenya, I guarantee you that Bill, Hillary, their agents and minions would have had the proof for all of us to see the moment there was a rumor that Obama was going to run for president.

And I 'guarantee you' if Hillary had the proof that Obama was born in Kenya, the minions of OBots would have thrown her under the bus for outing their anointed one. A no win situation for Shillary.

19 posted on 02/06/2011 2:29:35 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: trumandogz
And if Obama was born in Kenya, I guarantee you that Bill, Hillary, their agents and minions would have had the proof for all of us to see the moment there was a rumor that Obama was going to run for president.

And I 'guarantee you' if Hillary had the proof that Obama was born in Kenya, the minions of OBots would have thrown her under the bus for outing their anointed one. A no win situation for Shillary.

20 posted on 02/06/2011 2:30:28 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: trumandogz
Yes she did. And if Obama was born in Kenya, I guarantee you that Bill, Hillary, their agents and minions would have had the proof for all of us to see the moment there was a rumor that Obama was going to run for president. And then there is Orly Taitz who could walk into a courtroom with a client accused of jaywalking and walk out of that same courtroom ten minutes later with that now former client sentenced to twenty years hard labor for jaywalking.

Think back to the South Carolina primary and liberalism in the democrat party was put on display for all to see. The 'smart' money and 'smart' power brokers set their roots in BamBam's camp early. It was in the midst, toooo late in the campaign when the 'birth' qualification question got planted on the scene.... The Clintons were NOT in a position to pull out that qualification stop and NOT cause a 'freefall'. The 'birth' eligibility question was in my opinion cast out as last gasp to save the nomination for Hillary.

This is a question of literally the Constitution wherein the person 'swears' an oath to defend and protect.... BamBam is on record of disdain of said Constitution.

Missing here is what historically speaking, legacy, will haunt this man, supposed, leader and defender of said oath to put all questions of his very eligibility right out there for any and all to see. But NO he has not and so any clear thinking mind must conclude he is hiding something.

I have no clue who birthed Taitz.

21 posted on 02/06/2011 2:33:42 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
I have no clue who birthed Taitz.

Little concerned trolls like dogz there always like to trot out Taitz's name as they think it somehow discredits the Obama eligibility issue.

22 posted on 02/06/2011 2:38:03 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: AlexW
Well, you can disagree all you like, but I have absolutely no idea what that has to do with my post. I do realize that if McStain had won, the left would be all over his birth issues, but that has zero to do with the Obambie issue.

The LEFT graced lord McCain as eligible well before the Berg question got filed. BamBam knew/knows his eligibility status and he has kept silent and hides all historical documentation of who he is. Hindsight being 20/20 Hillary would have not taken for granted that her destiny was in stone and would have made darn sure BamBam's eligibility was in question from the 'get-go'. Politically speaking she was brain dead and did not see the possibility of her NOT being the nominee until it was toooooooo late to save it.

23 posted on 02/06/2011 2:41:29 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: missnry
Clueless Obama-1sm

Where's the original long-form BC, Mr. President? And where's the old 1980's passport you traveled on?

24 posted on 02/06/2011 2:42:25 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Red Steel

“And I ‘guarantee you’ if Hillary had the proof that Obama was born in Kenya, the minions of OBots would have thrown her under the bus for outing their anointed one. A no win situation for Shillary.”

The Clintons have enough minions in the press so that such documentation would have been made public and their fingerprints would have not been on it at all. It would go something like this.

1. Bill & Hillary’s people find the documentation in Kenya.

2. Bill & Hillary’s people give such documentation to some obscure European newspaper.

3. Both Bill & Hillary strongly condemn the story about Obama that was published in that obscure paper.

4. After it is published in that obscure European paper, Bill & Hillary’s people give said documentation to Le Monde.

5. Bill and Hillary would then rush to Obama’s defense and state that the Le Monde must be false’

6. The American press would follow-up on the Le Monde story and agree that Obama was born in Kenya and the Clinton’s would say “Ah, Shucks, even we were fooled.”


25 posted on 02/06/2011 2:43:39 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: Red Steel
Little concerned trolls like dogz there always like to trot out Taitz's name as they think it somehow discredits the Obama eligibility issue.

'You know', little Hillry lingo there, there is no Republican in this nation that would have escaped Hillry's wrath. Yet an unknown still in political diapers caused her to tremble with a paralyzing 'FEAR', and that is what is infectious about this whole insane travesty.

26 posted on 02/06/2011 2:44:43 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: BobP

“And where’s the old 1980’s passport you traveled on?”

Why would someone keep a passport that has been expired for 20 years?

My expired passports are shredded as soon as I renew.


27 posted on 02/06/2011 2:45:38 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: Red Steel

Yes...the Lefties describe him as a RightWingNut and similar terms.


28 posted on 02/06/2011 2:49:59 AM PST by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: trumandogz
Why would someone keep a passport that has been expired for 20 years?

I have kept all my passports - there are a lot of stamps in there that have meaning. Of course I may not be a "normal" person.

29 posted on 02/06/2011 2:54:02 AM PST by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: trumandogz

The silly notion that if Obama was going to be an usurper to the presidency, Hillary would have found out about it and put an end to Obama presidential run. So since Shillary did not trot out herself, or through third party proxies, that Obama was born elsewhere or was not a natural born citizen, and therefore, Obama was really born in the US and is really a natural born citizen is completely illogical poppycock. Assigning mythical power to the Clintons that some here like to state is utter nonsense.


30 posted on 02/06/2011 2:57:01 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Obviously you didn’t read the article. The author of the article linked to Open Secrets showing Taitz donated to Democrats.


31 posted on 02/06/2011 2:57:04 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

I did see it, it is no secret that Taitz was once a Democrat.


32 posted on 02/06/2011 2:58:26 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: trumandogz
I'm asking the State Dept for the details of his civilian passport they issued him -- if there ever was one issued.
33 posted on 02/06/2011 3:02:49 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: missnry

I do not see a point in keeping my old passports as there is no legal requirement and it only serves as one more avenue for someone to steal my identity.

And as it is, I have to keep up with two current passports and don’t need expired passports laying around.

Some stamps are cool. However, unless you are in a country that requires a visa, it is a good idea to ask that your passport not be stamped.

Passport stamps can only cause problems down the road.


34 posted on 02/06/2011 3:04:22 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: Red Steel; trumandogz
And I 'guarantee you' if Hillary had the proof that Obama was born in Kenya, the minions of OBots would have thrown her under the bus for outing their anointed one. A no win situation for Shillary.

She don't have the proof.  Meanwhile one of Hillary's minions, Orly Taitz is running interference for Hillary.  Hillary "birthed" this controversy, Taitz keeps it in the news and now Abercrommie continues to keep it in the news to distract people like you from focusing on the bigger problems that are right in front of your face.

35 posted on 02/06/2011 3:06:29 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Red Steel

She still is.


36 posted on 02/06/2011 3:07:02 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: BobP

“I’m asking the State Dept for the details of his civilian passport they issued him — if there ever was one issued.”

I doubt they could tell you if he did or did not have a passport, but I know they cannot tell you what nations he travelled to.

The reason they won’t tell you what nations he travelled to is that they do not keep records of where any one travels.


37 posted on 02/06/2011 3:07:54 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: BigSkyFreeper
She don't have the proof. Meanwhile one of Hillary's minions, Orly Taitz is running interference for Hillary. Hillary "birthed" this controversy, Taitz keeps it in the news and now Abercrommie continues to keep it in the news to distract people like you from focusing on the bigger problems that are right in front of your face.

MISSED the point. BamBam the so called 'leader' has the proof. ALL he needs to do is open the books. Or maybe just maybe he is NOT qualified to do so.

Right now some of the 'bigger' problems are defiance of what protects each and every individual in this nation that very Constitution this man took an oath to protect, defend, and uphold.

A leader leads and what we have now is not leadership, we are getting the universal salute in our face night and day.

38 posted on 02/06/2011 3:12:09 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: speciallybland
Yes, quite a distraction. And Soebarkah has transformed into a freedom lover and wants us all to experience the American dream of capitalism. And January turned into February, All under cover of the indispensable Birther distraction.
39 posted on 02/06/2011 3:13:31 AM PST by PA-RIVER
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To: BobP

Abercrombie don’t have access to Obama’s birth certificate and the state department don’t keep records on where you’ve traveled out of the country. Demanding to see the documents of somebody else is a violation of that person’s privacy.


40 posted on 02/06/2011 3:14:25 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper
Taitz keeps it in the news and now Abercrommie continues to keep it in the news to distract people like you from focusing on the bigger problems that are right in front of your face.

AberCommie has shut his flapping pie hole. He can't do much "distracting" when his gums have gone silent. He should distract some more. Yeah, there was sooooo much distracting going on in the last 2 years that the Republicans had a 63 seat landslide loss in Congress, and they lost over 700 state legislator seats across the nation.

41 posted on 02/06/2011 3:16:20 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Just mythoughts
MISSED the point.

Nope

BamBam the so called 'leader' has the proof. ALL he needs to do is open the books. Or maybe just maybe he is NOT qualified to do so.

Duh.  We all have access to our OWN documents.   He's eminently qualified to get a copy of his own BC.  I've done so with my own because I needed a new copy of my SS card, and it don't cost $2 million dollars to do it.

42 posted on 02/06/2011 3:17:41 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Red Steel

The Democrats losses in the Congress had nothing to do with Obama’s BC. LOL


43 posted on 02/06/2011 3:18:34 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: Just mythoughts

McStain was an open target for question, in that he was born in Panama, and maybe not really in the Canal Zone.

I do not know when the Obambie birth issue came up.
I do not think it was even on the radar screen at first.
Keep in mind, I have not been in the USA since Jan. 2005
and had no idea who Obama was. I had never heard of him.

I think someone, far too late, saw flaws in the bogus certification, pointing out that anyone could walk in off the street and get one.
That is when people started taking names and asking questions.
Everything about Obambie is questionable.
If he were a Republican he would be in jail by now.


44 posted on 02/06/2011 3:19:10 AM PST by AlexW
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To: BigSkyFreeper
She still is.

Taitz must have been veeerrrry tricky indeed if she could still be an official Dem and still run as a Republican in her bid in 2010 primary election for the GOP nominee as the California secretary of state.

45 posted on 02/06/2011 3:25:39 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Not so tricky, they’re called RINO’s.


46 posted on 02/06/2011 3:28:11 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper (In 2012: The Rookie and The Wookie get booted from the White House.)
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To: AlexW
McStain was an open target for question, in that he was born in Panama, and maybe not really in the Canal Zone. I do not know when the Obambie birth issue came up. I do not think it was even on the radar screen at first. Keep in mind, I have not been in the USA since Jan. 2005 and had no idea who Obama was. I had never heard of him. I think someone, far too late, saw flaws in the bogus certification, pointing out that anyone could walk in off the street and get one. That is when people started taking names and asking questions. Everything about Obambie is questionable. If he were a Republican he would be in jail by now

Lord McCain ran for president in 2000 and nary a question arose over his eligibility. But out of the wild blue yonder in 2008 arises a question in the Senate of all place to resolve they deem him qualified... Manipulation is correct alright and it is still being spewed all over US.

Let the first state in this nation require any who runs for the office of president to provide their eligibility paper and watch these manipulators scream like stuck pigs.

47 posted on 02/06/2011 3:28:16 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: BigSkyFreeper
So what is the BamaPharaoh hiding?
48 posted on 02/06/2011 3:29:20 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: BigSkyFreeper
The Democrats losses in the Congress had nothing to do with Obama’s BC. LOL

According to the clowns, AberCrombie, OBots, assorted concerned trolls, and other dregs of society, the faux Obama birth certificate story and his lack of eligibility was a big winning issue for the Democrats. So what happened Sherlock? Oh, that's right, the "big distraction" ended in epic failure. No pie for the Dems.

49 posted on 02/06/2011 3:34:00 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: trumandogz

Hey trumandogz — try applying for a passport without a long form... Answer that....


50 posted on 02/06/2011 3:35:04 AM PST by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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