Posted on 02/06/2011 6:59:19 AM PST by tobyhill
Fixed it for you.
Let's blindly support the new dictator, he's gotta be better then the old one!
Also, check out Reagan on Grenada and get back to us if you're going to make comparisons.
It seems like the ones here who compare Palin to Reagan on a parallel level, obviously never knew him or her very well. There is no comparison. Absolutely none.......
Couldn't agree more. Can't imagine debating Reagan's decision to back East Germany. The Jim Jones like Palin worship in support of an Egyptian dictator is mind boggling.
In 2008.....gotta keep up with the times.
If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.
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"The only tool, the only fool, is you.
What, you rapping your insults now? You shouldn't have to do Yoga to support democracy. You either support democracy or the 30-year reigning dictator. It's that simple.
I can’t wait for President Palin. I am serious. It is going to be beautiful. Life will be so perfect. It should be exciting. What on Earth will we talk about on Free Republic during that time?
Last week it was rainy and cold. This weekend was extremely cold in the morning but really turned out nice in the afternoon.
I hope you have a wonderful Sunday. You are the greatest FRiend.
So we should back a “claim” for democracy without verifying that it’s legit and real? No!!!!! Sarah makes sense, you like your buddy Obama makes no sense! You and Obama are either naive or deliberately putting on blinders to force a faux democracy wave onto Egypt!
"So we should back a “claim” for democracy without verifying that it’s legit and real?"
States Rights Dammit! The Egyptian people like the Iraqis we're fighting and dying to support don't want to be ruled by a dictator. Is it now fashionable to support dictators because Sarah can't make a damn decision? Damn, you guys sound like the Iraqi Republican Guard, Americans support democracies.
I really notice that the new PDS talking point is that Sarah just criticizes and offers no alternatives. I say that’s a bunch of BS, her speeches are really good and she does offer solutions, PDSers just want to hate.
Insults? I'm only using your language, in fact, I'm far less insulting than you have been. Not only have you called Sarah Palin a fool, as well as other derogatory names, you've called fellow FReepers fools as well. What, you can't take what you dish out?
You shouldn't have to do Yoga to support democracy.
Democracy? Is that what Egypt will attain by their protests and revolution? Are you sure? In case you haven't heard, Egypt is a democratic state. They even have a Constitution. Would you believe it? It's true. Oh, sure, they've been ruled autocratically for decades, even before Mubarak, but it's ostensibly still a democratic state. And one that has been a friend of both Israel and America. Shouldn't we concerned with what we'll get should Mubarak leave?
Next, what makes you think that once the protesters are successful everything in Egypt will be sweetness and light? What? What of the Muslim Brotherhood, a fundamentalist Muslim political organization that isn't recognized within Egypt, yet is calling shots on behalf of those poor, restive, Egyptians who are only yearning to be free? What of them? What of their close collaboration with Iran? What of their mouthpiece El Baradai? Do you believe he's in it to become the George Washington of Egypt? Do you?
Which leads me to this. You keep saying "It's that simple". Well, perhaps for simpletons. But what's the problem with someone asking obvious questions of our government? What's wrong with any American wanting to know just what's in store for not only the Middle-East, but America as well (not to mention Israel), should Mubarak leave and be replaced by whatever is in the wings? Since you're so against asking these questions, it begs one further question: Exactly what is your agenda? Are you Muslim? Are you anti-Israel? Do you believe the creation of a Muslim caliphate in the Middle-East would be a good thing? Why? Just why do you think you have to attack not only Sarah Palin with derogatory names, as well as FReepers? Why? I fully expect a reasoned response to that. After all, if you can call names, you can explain why...
If it’s States rights in your words then .......the people are deciding but we, the U.S. got no business supporting this terrorists that say they want to destabilize the region - that’s what you and your loverboy Obama want!
The Republican insiders (RINOs) always go after conservative challengers to their candidates with accusations about “not offering solutions” or “not getting things done.”
She did, here. Scroll down to "If she runs for President, what might she do differently?"
VIDEO of Sarah’s speech: http://texas4palin.blogspot.com/2011/02/memorable-quotes-from-gov-palins-reagan.html
Invoking Reagan, Palin says ‘this is a time for choosing again’
By: Byron York 02/05/11 6:41 AM
http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/02/palin-summons-reagan-legacy-fight-against-obama-agenda
SANTA BARBARA, CALIFORNIA - Sarah Palin came here to declare that President Ronald Reagan “was one of a kind, and you’re not going to find his kind again.” But in a carefully-crafted speech marking Reagan’s 100th birthday, the former Alaska governor drew a series of parallels — some explicit, some implied — between Reagan and herself, and between Reagan’s time and today.
Palin was invited to speak by the Young America’s Foundation, which owns and maintains Reagan’s old ranch in the mountains near Santa Barbara. (The foundation is separate, and more aligned with the conservative movement, than the Reagan Presidential Library, which is also holding commemorative events this weekend.) Palin began her remarks by telling the crowd, made up largely of foundation donors, about her visit to the ranch on Friday.
“The ranch is unmistakably the home of a western conservative,” Palin said. “As an Alaskan, I proudly consider myself a western conservative in the spirit of Ronald Reagan.” From that starting point — and her note that she grew up with “the values Ronald Reagan embodied” — Palin discussed themes from Reagan’s life that have unmistakable resonance for conservatives, and especially for Palin supporters, today.
Reagan was initially rejected by the establishment of the Republican Party, Palin said. He stood up against the big government of Lyndon Johnson’s Great Society. He delivered a hard-edged message that American voters at first rejected. And ultimately he prevailed.
Palin’s specific subject was Reagan’s speech “A Time for Choosing,” made on behalf of Barry Goldwater just days before the 1964 presidential election. “A Time for Choosing” — delivered 16 years before Reagan’s own successful run for the White House — made Reagan a star in the Republican Party.
It was also, Palin noted, a tough-minded, aggressively delivered message in which Reagan described a stark choice between a government headed toward socialism and one dedicated to freedom. The speech “gave birth to the Reagan revolution,” Palin said, and was “a call to action against a fundamental threat to freedom.”
Palin focused particularly on a passage of Reagan’s speech in which he said the issue of the 1964 election was “whether we believe in our capacity for self-government or whether we abandon the American revolution and confess that a little intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol can plan our lives for us better than we can plan them ourselves.” To conservatives, and especially to the Tea Partiers who make up a significant portion of Palin’s supporters, it’s a message that seems as fresh today as when it was delivered. Palin quoted it twice — she said big-government advocates believe “we can win the future by letting that little intellectual elite in a far-distant capitol win it for us” — and alluded to it on a number of other occasions.
In the 1960s, Palin said, Reagan was taking a stand against a president who was expanding the reach of government with expensive new social programs. “Reagan saw the dangers in LBJ’s Great Society,” Palin told the crowd. “He refused to sit down and be silent as our liberties were eroded by an out-of-control centralized government that overtaxed and overreached in utter disregard of constitutional limits.” No one in the room missed the parallels between Johnson’s time and the Obama administration of today.
But back in 1964, Palin said, “the country wasn’t quite ready to hear” Reagan’s words. (Goldwater lost in a historic landslide.) Reagan did not give up, and because he kept trying, “his message did catch on slowly.”
“In 1964, the conservative movement heard him,” Palin said. “In 1966 California listened to him. In 1976 — finally — the GOP rank and file listened to him. In 1980, the nation listened to him, and in 1984, the whole world heard him. So by the time he left office, Ronald Reagan had effectively defeated the expansionist ideology of the Great Society.”
It’s a stirring story, Palin told the crowd, but now big-government ideology is back. Reagan was outraged by the 1960s, while “for many of us today, that moment of outrage came with the passage of Obamacare.” Then there was the stimulus, which “didn’t stimulate anything but a Tea Party.” And now, Barack Obama’s calls for new “investments” will end with “a bullet train to bankruptcy.”
“This is a time for choosing again,” Palin said, “and the vision we outline here is just as stark as it was in 1964.”
A Palin insider says the former governor watched “A Time for Choosing” several times and was struck by Reagan’s stern tone, as well as the applicability of his themes to today’s events. Then, as she was working on the speech, Palin watched President Obama’s state of the union and become convinced that, rather than adopt a more centrist path, Obama planned to continue pushing big-government programs. Those two thoughts, the insider says, formed the core of Palin’s speech.
How was it received? Palin spoke in a fairly small room, with perhaps 200 in the audience — the Reagan Ranch Center is not a big-money operation and doesn’t have a grand ballroom. In general, audience members were enthusiastic about Palin’s message but guarded about her political prospects.
“I like her enthusiasm and ability energize people,” said one woman.
“Would you support her for president?”
“Well, we’re more Mitt Romney people.”
“I like her,” says one man. “I’m not sure she’s presidential, but she gets the message out.”
“Could she become presidential?”
“Hell, if Obama can be president, so can she.”
“We like her personally, but can she win?” said another woman. “We’re very worried. She’s been so demonized.”
Other audience members shared the same opinion. Many of them like Palin, agree with most of her positions, and are inclined to defend her when she is attacked. But they don’t necessarily plan to support her for president.
Lee Edwards, a Reagan biographer and fellow at the Heritage Foundation, was in the audience and took note of the fact that Palin was speaking to a strongly conservative group at the Ranch Center. She likely wouldn’t be invited to speak to a more general audience at the Reagan Library, Edwards said, “because she’s not a member of the establishment, and they’re not comfortable with her.”
“The irony,” Edwards continued, “is that neither was Reagan.”
Palin ended her speech by noting that she is not calling for Republicans to unite behind any specific leader. “There isn’t one replacement for Reagan, but there are millions who believe in the great ideas that he espoused,” she said. But of course those millions pick a candidate to represent them. And in Santa Barbara Friday night, Palin did nothing to discourage those who believe she is laying the foundation for a future candidacy. It might not be in 2012 — remember the years between “A Time for Choosing” and the Reagan White House — but it could be on the way.
Dufus
you either believe in Democracy or you don’t <<<<<
There are many democracy believers that would love to see the Republic fall! Pure democray ends in chaos!! The founders were well aware of this and put checks and balances in to protect our freedoms! Most of those clamoring for democracy in Egypt want no such thing!!!
Exactly what is your agenda? Are you Muslim? Are you anti-Israel?
I'm an American Veteran who proudly served our country for over 20 years. I'm not a Muslim, although I served with some and attended funerals for them. I've deployed to Israel and I'll leave it at that. As far as agenda, I'll warn you it'll sound corny but it's freedom. Ask any GI who's lived outside the US and they'll tell you there isn't even a close second when it comes to the best country in the world. That's why I find it personally offensive when a politician questions a nations' motives for wanting freedom.
The part of the Title you altered does not speak well for your knowledge.
"Most of those clamoring for democracy in Egypt want no such thing!!!
How the hell do you quantify that statement? I'm all for debate but you can't just make shit up. Come on man...
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