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Oliver North: Numbness on the Nile (Obama & numbnutz)
Creators Syndicate ^ | February 11, 2011 | Oliver North

Posted on 02/10/2011 7:55:35 PM PST by jazusamo

 

WASHINGTON — On Thursday morning, the heads of America's intelligence services went to Capitol Hill to testify before the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence on worldwide threats to the United States. We won't know what was said in the committee's closed sessions until it's leaked by one of the participants. But to paraphrase former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, based on their public testimony, what we now know about what our intelligence services don't know ought to alarm us.

The director of national intelligence, retired Air Force Lt. Gen. James Clapper, stunned the committee by describing Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood — the organization that has co-opted pro-democracy protests in Cairo's Tahrir Square — as "a very heterogeneous group, largely secular, which has eschewed violence and has decried al-Qaida as a perversion of Islam. ... They have pursued social ends, a betterment of the political order in Egypt."

This statement was so at variance with reality that DNI spokeswoman Jamie Smith subsequently was compelled to issue an explanation: "To clarify Director Clapper's point, in Egypt the Muslim Brotherhood makes efforts to work through a political system that has been, under (Hosni) Mubarak's rule, one that is largely secular in its orientation. He is well aware that the Muslim brotherhood is not a secular organization."

Shortly after Clapper's astounding claim, CIA Director Leon Panetta told the committee, "There is a strong likelihood that Mubarak may step down this evening." He then went even further by noting that such a development "will be significant in terms of where the hopefully orderly transition in Egypt will take place." It turns out he was dead wrong on both counts.

In response to Rep. Sue Myrick's question about the Muslim Brotherhood's role in perpetrating violence against the U.S. and our allies, FBI Director Robert Mueller contradicted the DNI by observing, "Elements of the Muslim Brotherhood here and overseas have supported terrorism." He then had the good sense to decline going further in public, offering instead to "provide further information" in closed session.

Less than six hours after this drama unfolded in Washington, Mubarak went on government-controlled television to tell the world he isn't going anywhere any time soon. The protesters in Tahrir Square were stunned. So was the Obama administration, thanks to yet another dramatic failure on the part of our intelligence services.

Two hours after Mubarak's televised announcement that he was transferring some power to his hand-picked vice president, Omar Suleiman — and staying in Cairo — the White House issued yet another statement urging that "the voices of the Egyptian people must be heard." Now everyone is asking what's next. The truth is that nobody knows.

Good intelligence is essential, and poor intelligence is disastrous; it is a lesson American administrations have been relearning since Pearl Harbor. It was a problem that was supposed to get fixed after the U.S. Embassy was sacked in Tehran in 1979 — and again after the failure of Operation Eagle Claw in the Iranian desert in 1980. We were told it really would be cured by the massive reorganization of our intelligence community after the terror attacks of 9/11. It clearly hasn't worked.

Our intelligence services are beset with attention-deficit disorder. In the aftermath of 9/11, we were told our "intelligence problem" would go away if we tore down "information silos" and "firewalls," created "fusion centers," and "streamlined" the dissemination of information among agencies. As we now know, that just made it easier for organizations such as WikiLeaks — and foreign adversaries — to gain access to classified information.

The Obama administration has compounded the problem by variously defining the major threats to U.S. national security as climate change, right-wing extremism, homegrown terrorists and economic collapse. Meanwhile, our risk-averse "intelligence managers" have all but eliminated the collection of human intelligence, the key to protecting U.S. troops fighting an insurgency in Afghanistan and anticipating events like the one we now see in Egypt.

Those who testified before the committee this week defended their work by claiming to have warned "for years" about "potential adverse consequences" in Middle East autocracies that deny their people economic and political freedom. But the inability to forecast how the present unrest was spreading east from Tunisia — to Egypt, Jordan, Yemen and perhaps beyond — is a direct consequence of a profound failure in human intelligence collection.

No matter what self-serving "leaders" now claim about forecasts of "Egyptian instability," nobody saw this fire coming. The entire Egyptian military hierarchy was in Washington when the riots began in Cairo. Our numbness on the Nile is the consequence of not having enough "boots on the ground" to even know who loosed the violence — or the names, addresses and intentions of those who intend to take power. If it turns out to be the Muslim Brotherhood, we should be very alarmed indeed.



TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: bayofpigs; clapper; egypt; february2011; jamesclapper; mubarak; muslimbrotherhood; obama; obamunism; olivernorth; panetta

1 posted on 02/10/2011 7:55:40 PM PST by jazusamo
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To: 2rightsleftcoast; abner; ACAC; advertising guy; Arkinsaw; Art in Idaho; athelass; aumrl; basil; ...
OLIVER NORTH PING!

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Please Freepmail me to be added to the Ollie North ping list.

2 posted on 02/10/2011 7:57:04 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

The “peace sign” flashing, commie lib hippies are really pissed. I’m lovin’ it! Go Mubarak! ROTFL!!!


3 posted on 02/10/2011 8:08:07 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Why can't the Mexican government provide "a better life" for the illegal aliens? It's their job!)
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To: jazusamo

QUOTE: “The entire Egyptian military hierarchy was in Washington when the riots began in Cairo.”

More like:

The entire Egyptian military hierarchy....you know, just by happenstance, as it were....was in Washington when the riots began in Cairo.


4 posted on 02/10/2011 8:30:24 PM PST by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Fitzy_888

So exactly which foreign countries will ever trust us again when they see that we set this whole thing up and even “invited” the top military out of the country? Can anyone outline the decades of damage this man just did?


5 posted on 02/10/2011 8:57:30 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: jazusamo

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2671950/posts

This thread has a very interesting read. I can in no way vouch for its credibility, but it makes as much ‘sense’ as what I saw on the cable networks today.


6 posted on 02/10/2011 9:00:38 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: jazusamo

stunning that Free Republic knows more about what is going on in Egypt than the people who are supposed to know.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2671950/posts


7 posted on 02/10/2011 9:05:22 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Just mythoughts

Ha. Guess we were thinking the same thing.


8 posted on 02/10/2011 9:06:14 PM PST by WVNan
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To: Just mythoughts

When it comes to military and foreign relations Oliver North knows what’s going on.


9 posted on 02/10/2011 9:06:29 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: WVNan; Just mythoughts

:-) BUMP!


10 posted on 02/10/2011 9:09:44 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Thanks for the ping, Jaz. We need to send Clapper to the crapper.


11 posted on 02/10/2011 9:09:48 PM PST by Ben Hecks
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To: Ben Hecks

Amen to that!


12 posted on 02/10/2011 9:11:28 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
What I read between the lines from Ollie is the demonstrations and turmoil in Cairo have been a huge setup and he's fearful the MB is eventually going to take over. The incompetence of Obama and Panetta today is mind boggling. . They make statements and ‘hope’ they will come true purely for domestic political purposes. . Nauseating. . and treasonous.
13 posted on 02/10/2011 9:13:25 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: Walkingfeather

bingo, we have a winner.


14 posted on 02/10/2011 9:14:33 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (The issue? "Responsibility" for this mess. Obama ? Or the AMERICAN PEOPLE for putting him in there?)
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To: WVNan
Ha. Guess we were thinking the same thing.

This day was surreal. First the 'rumor' got picked up and sent around the world for hours... that is if the story we both linked is true. I can only imagine some hot private phone calls getting placed.

15 posted on 02/10/2011 9:15:02 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Art in Idaho
They make statements and ‘hope’ they will come true purely for domestic political purposes. . Nauseating. . and treasonous.

Yes it is, and that's been boy presidents SOP since day one, it caught up with him today.

16 posted on 02/10/2011 9:21:06 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
When it comes to military and foreign relations Oliver North knows what’s going on.

I have been hunting some sanity, as I sure could not find in on any of the cable shows today. Thanks for posting this.

17 posted on 02/10/2011 9:24:27 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: jazusamo
"a very heterogeneous group, largely secular, which has eschewed violence and has decried al-Qaida as a perversion of Islam. ... They have pursued social ends, a betterment of the political order in Egypt."

This came right out of a glossy brochure printed up by one of the Muslim co-traitor infiltrators in the White House. One of the CAIR monkeys or Barry's commie Palestinian bruthas.

And instead of doing any research, Clapper the hollow dimwit just soaked it up and swallowed it whole.

Then he puked it up on camera, and now the entire planet knows the Federal government is completely compromised with Muslim propaganda.

I look forward to hearing Clapper tell us that Egypt will be defending its airspace with Mohammad's flying horse Baraq, who his "intelligence sources" have assured him exists, and is up to the job.


Today is a good day to die.
I didn't say for whom.

18 posted on 02/10/2011 9:25:17 PM PST by The Comedian (Muslim Brotherhood = A.N.S.W.E.R = Soros = Obama)
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To: The Comedian

Yep, you pegged Clapper perfectly.


19 posted on 02/10/2011 9:31:34 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Our government consists at the moment of superannuated adolescents drunk with power and sodden with dated, irrelevant ideology. Their stuff sounds great on campus or in an international conference room but in the real world it's nothing more than self-absorption.

Somebody needs his butt fired for this and we can start with the pathetic fool named Clapper. We can't get at the real responsible parties, whom I will not name but whose initials are Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Hussein 0bama, whose foreign policy credentials were at their peak at their accession to office, which is to say at zero, and they have daily diminished since then. The ship of state has idiots at the helm and no one on the bridge to relieve them. It will get worse from here.

20 posted on 02/10/2011 9:47:13 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill

You said it well Bill, especially with the initials, they’re clueless.


21 posted on 02/10/2011 9:57:50 PM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

The US has tacit control over the Egyptian military by virtue of funding. This was a wise investment. Maybe that will help to stave off a complete disaster.

>> the organization that has co-opted pro-democracy protests in Cairo’s Tahrir Square

The word “democracy” in the context of Cairo is an absurdity. The Egyptian population has polled sentiment perfectly to the contrary.


22 posted on 02/10/2011 11:01:08 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Gene Eric

The US has tacit control over the Egyptian military by virtue of funding”

What is to keep 1.6 BILLION Muslims from funding Egypt’s military or any other country’s military?

I don’t think that Saudi Arabia has any military- just Palace Guards. Also the same for Dubai & the UAE.

Funny- Tiger Woods is in Dubai while everyone else is at Pebble Beach.... why?


23 posted on 02/11/2011 10:12:48 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: jazusamo

Every country in the world depends on what ever Intelligence service they have to decide which way they will bend when trouble happens.

Do they send diplomatic persons?

Do they send actual armed forces?

This country has millions of trained persons wearing the uniforms of the USA. They are trained, fed, housed, clothes, provided special body armor & guns & night vision goggles. They have drones which are very useful & other aircraft & ships.

At any moment, all of the might of the USA can be sent somewhere in the world to put down trouble-——but nothing happens unless we are directly attacked, such as Pearl Harbor, or until out “Intelligence service” tells us that trouble is coming.

With the quality of ‘Intelligence” that Clapper is demonstrating, each & every member of our armed forces military are in dangerous waters.

NObama certainly wasn’t ready to be a President of anything—even a local fishing club. He is further demonstrating that he cannot choose people of experience or quality to fill any other positions in Washington & this administration.

Until the general populace of the USA gets a grip on what is really happening at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Washington, this country is staring it’s own demise right in the face.

When it comes tumbing down— they had all best look long & hard into the mirror for the culprits that created the mess.


24 posted on 02/11/2011 10:19:42 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: jazusamo

Every country in the world depends on what ever Intelligence service they have to decide which way they will bend when trouble happens.

Do they send diplomatic persons?

Do they send actual armed forces?

This country has millions of trained persons wearing the uniforms of the USA. They are trained, fed, housed, clothed, provided special body armor & guns & night vision goggles. They have drones which are very useful & other aircraft & ships. They have excellent satellite imaging & very good communications.

At any moment, all of the might of the USA can be sent somewhere in the world to put down trouble-——but nothing happens unless we are directly attacked, such as Pearl Harbor, or until out “Intelligence service” tells us that trouble is coming.

With the quality of ‘Intelligence” that Clapper is demonstrating, each & every member of our armed forces/ military are in dangerous waters.

NObama certainly wasn’t ready to be a President of anything—even a local fishing club. He is further demonstrating that he cannot choose people of experience or quality to fill any other positions in Washington & this administration.

Until the general populace of the USA gets a grip on what is really happening at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Washington, this country is staring it’s own demise right in the face.

When it comes tumbing down— they had all best look long & hard into the mirror for the culprits that created the mess.


25 posted on 02/11/2011 10:21:44 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles

Well said.

The only thing Hussein Obama is proficient at is affirmative action and that certainly isn’t a prerequisite to be POTUS.

He has basically surrounded himself with incompetents so from his most important responsibility of protecting our citizens right on down he’s a failure.

Hopefully we can survive another two years with him in the WH though I believe he should be impeached.


26 posted on 02/11/2011 10:34:35 AM PST by jazusamo (His [Obama's] political base---the young, the left and the thoughtless: Thomas Sowell)
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To: ridesthemiles

>> What is to keep 1.6 BILLION Muslims from funding Egypt’s military or any other country’s military?

I can’t answer that question.


27 posted on 02/13/2011 12:27:14 AM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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